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DJ Bear 04-26-2013 06:24 PM

I learned that if there is no communication the relationship is lost.
Also, when the sex stops, run, don't look back just run like hell.

VuDu 04-26-2013 07:09 PM

That I should be just as important on that last day as I was on the first day.

SugarFemme 05-02-2013 11:20 PM

I have learned that love is not enough glue to hold a relationship together. I have learned that unless I love myself, no one else will love me the way I want to be loved. I have learned that I am worthy of love, and that I have a lot more value as a human being than I gave myself credit for. I have learned to listen to that infallible "voice" in my gut. It has never lied to me, and wants only the best for me. The biggest thing I have learned is that doing the same thing and expecting different results is the crazy-making stuff that made me put my life on hold for too long.

always2late 05-02-2013 11:28 PM

I'm not sure if I posted this already, but it bears repeating. If someone tells you that you are too good for them....BELIEVE THEM!

Sweet Bliss 05-03-2013 12:00 AM

Listen more than you talk

Observe their living quarters closely it speaks volumes about how they are n what they value

Pay attention to how they treat others (friend and stranger alike) soon you will receive the same treatment.
:cherry:

s0litude 05-03-2013 01:41 AM

Nursing my wounds....
 
  • No amount of gorgeous is worth a lifetime of bat-shit crazy. :-D
  • Never go into a relationship trying to change or fix someone OR allow yourself to become someone you're not. It never works. Seriously, if you feel the need to teach me how to iron, load the dishwasher, how you like your towels folded, fine... whatever. But me as a person, leave it alone. I'm not expecting you to change for me; I will not change for you. At the core, there has to be mutual respect.
  • Finances: HER money, YOUR money, OUR joint expenditures (budgeting). Seriously. It's just easier and less frustrating over time.
  • You can have a friendship after a break-up. If you were both honourable in your relations, then it is possible AFTER the pain and hurt subside and if you BOTH want it.

~ocean 05-03-2013 04:41 AM

Always be yourself ~

Girl_On_Fire 05-03-2013 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~ocean (Post 792766)
Always be yourself ~

And if you feel forced to be anything else in the relationship, run. If you cannot be your authentic self around your partner, you should not be together.

VintageFemme 05-03-2013 11:09 PM

Just be kind. In the end, it's all that really matters.

Nat 05-04-2013 01:17 AM

I don't know who wrote this and I'm google-lazy, but I think this sums it up:

You will carry this suture
Into the future
The past never passes
It simply amasses.

---------------

Also - there is probably no escape - you will likely see them again forever if you live in the same town. I dated a woman briefly back in 2005, and I still run into her. Thankfully, we get along great now, but there was a good year where it was pretty awkward.

StrongButch 05-04-2013 05:36 AM

Lesson
 
I learned many positive things: How wonderful it feels to open your eyes and see her smiling face. How to say im sorry. To laugh together as well as cry. To listen and show compassion. To never have any regrets. How to give my heart to another. And after all is said and done remember the good times. Walk away with a smile as well as tears in your eyes. A broken heart does come back to life!

~ocean 05-04-2013 10:48 PM

I learned a long time ago there are more sad songs (esp ctry & west.) than their are tears ~~~ :)))))) ~~~

Cailin 05-04-2013 10:54 PM

I learned, that I need to date a mind reader.

Glenn 05-05-2013 12:19 AM

I learned that all that bullshit is true.
Find a good one and hold on.

s0litude 05-05-2013 03:07 AM

Crazy-Spotting
 
Some people are in love with the IDEA of being in love. They'd rather be with ANYONE (you aren't special) than be alone. Learn to spot them, to observe, so you can "dodge the bullet" and save yourself a world of hurt later. If you make an error on this "type", misjudge things, they will go on to the next person who pays them some attention while you're left reeling, wondering WTF happened.
  1. Learn to spot CRAZY.
  2. Run like hell.

wahya 05-21-2013 09:23 PM

Like Bonnie Raitt's song..I Can't Make You Love Me. it's true..You can't. Long hard lesson learned.

chris1life 05-23-2013 07:49 AM

I learned that when someone starts a conversation with "you know I really love you but..."don't let the finish the sentence pack their shit up and put it on the porch and change the locks. Another lesson is you never really know what's going on in someone else's head

~baby~doll~ 05-23-2013 07:55 AM

i have learned if it is not working well let it go with no regret or heartbreak because it will become more painful. i have learned not to allow my emotional attachment to dictate truth. hen it is over it is over.

kittygrrl 05-23-2013 05:16 PM

A leopard doesn't change his spots just his excuses.

Semantics 05-23-2013 06:02 PM

Don't let people try and tell you who you are.

I've been out of the dating scene for quite some time, but this one stuck.

TheUltimateButch 05-24-2013 09:09 PM

I learned to always be respectful............karma.

Dean Thoreau 06-17-2013 11:47 AM

Ok these are my lessons for me; I have screwed up a hell of a lot, and hurt a few folks on the way to learning this shit, and been hurt by a few.
these are some of the lessons i have learned.

Lessons learned over the past 12 years...
1. do not date unless you are really ready to do so.
2. Dont think its love just cause it feels good.
3. dont think you are ready to commit, if you havent had some kind of closure on prior stuff.
4. Even if you think u are sooooo over....take another 6 months before u believe it.
5. Not everyone is honest, tho most all of us try to be.
6. A persons perception of themselves is usually quite different than your perception of them..and visa versa.
7. If you are not ready dont do it.
8. It is better to say, I am not ready yet, then to end up in something and end up hurting other people as well as yourself.
9. All people have baggage, it just depends on whether you carry it around all the time or set it in a safe place and come visit it from time to time.
10. If you cant figure out a way to be involved with your children and keep the "EX" involvement to an absolute minimum, then dont be an ass, dont get involved with anyone else till you have that issue resolved.
11. sometimes its not love its pride or fear, or anger that makes a person do anything they can to keep you, even tho u both know its over.
12. sometimes you just gotta say WTF...pull up your big boi/grl pants and get over it!

kittygrrl 11-10-2013 10:59 AM

Observe if he/she has the basics (ie pays bills on time, thoughtful involvement with parent/s, tips appropriately, dependable, mentally sound) it's amazing what we dismiss/excuse/miss...

macele 11-10-2013 11:13 AM

to say what you mean and mean what you say.

WolfyOne 11-10-2013 11:13 AM

Stop holding on to that past relationship in your heart or you'll never be able to fully move on to a future relationship and hurt everyone that tries to touch your emotional heart.

Glenn 11-20-2013 11:18 AM

If your friend and an ex, who is also still your friend, become "involved", but they argue alot, don't get Yourself involved too much. You may wind up getting your a** kicked by them both!

Tony 11-20-2013 11:25 AM

I take something from every relationship. It's all about learning. No regrets. My last relationship (marriage) taught me to be more sensitive to Her needs. To not take advantage of love. All relationships require maintenance on a daily basis. And I'm all good with that. Now..

Gemme 11-20-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony (Post 863839)
I take something from every relationship. It's all about learning. No regrets. My last relationship (marriage) taught me to be more sensitive to Her needs. To not take advantage of love. All relationships require maintenance on a daily basis. And I'm all good with that. Now..

This. Boy, howdy, did I learn this.

cinnamongrrl 11-20-2013 12:29 PM

Never lose your autonomy....

Jar 11-20-2013 01:01 PM

I've learned to take it slow and get to know each other. Enjoy the good stuff! Build a strong friendship, nurture it and let it grow into a relationship of love and trust. Don't rush it ..... Life will test it soon enough

Medusa 11-20-2013 02:13 PM

Two of the most important things I ever learned from past relationships:

1. My feelings actually matter.

2. My feelings are not the only feelings that matter.

Breezy 11-27-2013 06:42 PM

My past relationships were necessary for me to have the wonderful one I have with Damon, today.

Graham 11-29-2013 10:22 PM

I learned
 
You have to stick with it...good times and bad. It isn't all about sex either. You have to give to get, being there to help one another. To truly and honestly love each other. I have been humbled by the 2 women that have shown me the way.

Greco 11-29-2013 10:40 PM

Vida
 
...that love never dies...and that it energizes my new life, and for this
I am grateful.

Greco

AnAwkwardAccident 06-29-2014 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cinnamongrrl (Post 863857)
Never lose your autonomy....

....THIS!!!

Femmadian 07-14-2014 06:02 PM

One important thing I've learned from my last relationship (or rather, the dissolution thereof) is that you don't have to be friends with an ex.

Really, you don't.

It may seem obvious to some (or, well, most), but this was a hard thing for me to accept and come to terms with. I'd always been pretty successful in being able to be friends (or at least friend-ly) with all other exes except for one from a long time ago, so I always thought of myself as one of "those people" who is able to fall into an easy, if gradual, friendship post-relationship. It seemed natural (and inevitable) to me.

Then after my most recent relationship and after many failed attempts at sustaining a friendship with them, I accepted the fact that it doesn't reflect badly on me as a person to not be able to sustain a relationship with someone I cared about after the romantic relationship has ended. It's okay and it's not a failure. You don't have to be friends with an ex at a personal cost to yourself. It's not a moral test to see just how mature and kind and loving and whatthefuck-ever you can be to them. It's not... and you don't "owe" anyone anything.

I somehow thought it was a sign of being a Very Mature Person doing Very Mature Things to be the "bigger person" and keep a past love(r) in my life, even when it wasn't good for me. Even when it hurt. Even when I didn't particularly like them much anymore as it ended because of the things which had transpired during (and facilitated the end of) the relationship. I felt it was normal and justified it to myself with grandiose ideas of "karma" and "the better good" and I thought it was the enlightened thing to do (barring abuse) if you still cared about each other.

And then I (slowly) realized that all that was bullshit. Each relationship stands on its own and is not (or does not have to be) part of some grand narrative of your life. And if you poured yourself unsuccessfully into trying to be a good partner to them, you do not then have to continue this and pour yourself into trying to be a good friend to them, especially when it does not come naturally. Sometimes the kinder, gentler, hell, even friendlier thing is to let go completely.

Forgiveness, if warranted (and sometimes it's not), is something you do for yourself and does not necessarily have to have an obvious, observable effect in the other person's life who is the object of your forgiveness. A relationship with them is not a sign or signal of how far you've come or that you've truly forgiven them and/or moved on (though I recognize it can be for some situations) and it is not something needed or even necessarily wanted by either or both parties, particularly if everyone's being honest.

Give up the ghost.

So, in time I've learned to be kinder to myself and have kinder expectations for my own abilities and what I'm able to do/handle emotionally. It's about allowing yourself to be human and fallible and have negative emotions and experiences and not giving in to an internal nagging of what things "should" look like vs what they actually are. I think it's a good thing and a necessary thing and a positive thing (for me) to have learned.

And to her, for that... I'm truly grateful. :praying:

MysticOceansFL 07-14-2014 06:26 PM

Two of the most important things I ever learned from past relationships:

1. My feelings actually matter.

2. My feelings are not the only feelings that matter

3. Trust my gut instincts

anaisninja 07-14-2014 06:34 PM

Most recently, I have learned that:

1. Mutual attraction/sexual chemistry is a necessary but far from sufficient component of a good relationship.
2. It doesn't matter if you are the dumper or the dumpee; both positions suck and hurt in their own way.

AnAwkwardAccident 08-17-2014 10:09 PM

Trust your gut instincts.
Actions speak louder than words.
Set clear boundaries - if those aren't respected, leave.
Don't rush into an being engaged.

SirenManda 09-04-2014 11:07 AM

I've learned I'm allowed to disagree. In most of my past relationships, disagreeing with someone meant I had to change my mind or be quiet. Now that I can speak freely, many times I've been able to explain my point and he ends up agreeing with me over things.

I've also learned people who don't seem concerned, aren't. We dismiss these things when meeting someone because of butterflies. Looking back, I overlooked a lot with people in the past.


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