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firegal 01-31-2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stargazingboi (Post 967445)

I am wondering about those numbers as they got penalized for the illegal video taping in 2008 the Coach was fined $500,000 and the team $250,000 and they lost a draft pick. That was one incident. Who ever made that list must of been a big fan of the pats.

Unless it was just this years....then probably

stargazingboi 01-31-2015 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by firegal (Post 967450)
I am wondering about those numbers as they got penalized for the illegal video taping in 2008 the Coach was fined $500,000 and the team $250,000 and they lost a draft pick. That was one incident. Who ever made that list must of been a big fan of the pats.

Unless it was just this years....then probably

I remember 2008, and yeah they screwed up...and paid for it. They also learned from it and it's been how many years since then?

these numbers are from this year alone and years prior show close to the same *shrugs* so yeah...haters be hatin

Katniss 01-31-2015 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stargazingboi (Post 967453)
I remember 2008, and yeah they screwed up...and paid for it. They also learned from it and it's been how many years since then?

these numbers are from this year alone and years prior show close to the same *shrugs* so yeah...haters be hatin


The Sportrac list of fined NFL teams is derived from data gathered from sources like USA Today, OvertheCap, NBC Sports articles and tweets, etc. and is for the 2014-2015 season only. Not *directly* from the NFL. The Colts are actually disputing the accuracy of this report and when questioned directly if there could be inaccuracies the Sportrac company did not respond. See full article from INDYSTAR here : http://www.indystar.com/story/sports...-nfl/22401743/

I do think it worth noting that the fines largely include those linked to substance abuse. The Colts Robert Mathis was listed with a $2.06 million dollar fine (he claims he blew a positive test due to a fertility enhancing drug as they are trying to have a 3rd child. Dude, seriously...at $2.06 million fine you need to try being a daddy during the off-season as that's a hella' fine) and LaVon Brazil had $588,513 both for substance abuse (per Sprotrac calculations as again the NFL won't release data such as this). Also worth noting Brazil was released from the team before the season began due to his substance abuse issues even though he is included in the calculations. Also of note these fines do not include fines handed down to coaches and team owners.

I don't think any team has a spotless record. Sadly there is too much money involved in games such as these and money often breeds corruption. I do hope Sunday night's game is honest, safe, and above board for both teams. I just felt the need to look into how these statistic were derived because as Mark Twain so eloquently stated, "There are three types of lies. Lies, damn lies, and statistics."

Katniss~~(not a hater or a deflator)

Cin 02-01-2015 01:12 AM

What gets me is that teams like the New Orleans Saints with their bounty program, where even the head coach is involved in making a hit list and paying players for injuring the players from opposing teams who are on that list seem to roll around in shit and come out smelling like a rose. Putting a bounty on the heads of quarterbacks so players get paid extra to hurt them seems despicable to me. But you don't hear so much about that.

The Broncos were fined only $50,000 for videotaping the 49ers walkthrough practice.

In 2012 the Chargers were accused of using stickum which was banned in 1981.

Former Buccaneers quarterback Brad Johnson has admitted to paying a bribe to have the footballs tampered with before the 2003 Super Bowl.

The New York Giants were accused of faking injuries.

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin’s was fined for walking on the field and interfering in a kickoff return foiling a sure touch down.

A lot of teams have been caught cheating. Some doing really scary season and career ending stuff such as the Bounty program employed by the New Orleans Saints. But to listen to most people the Patriots are the only team to ever be accused of any wrong doing.

I'm not defending cheating. But cheating is cheating even when it's a team other than the Pats who are doing it. And there are plenty of other teams cheating. The hate for the Patriots is out of proportion especially considering there has been no conclusion reached yet concerning the under inflated balls.

firegal 02-01-2015 02:14 AM

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Its sunday now and the past is just that!

Both teams have made it thru all the news...games..critics...

I am a fan... not a hater.... so Go Seahawks!

I hope for a good game from both teams!


PS... disclaimer...still want my hawks to bring it home.

~ocean 02-01-2015 03:03 AM

~~ GO PATRIOTS ~~ if anyone wants to watch the Super Bowl join us in chat ~ there will be a separate room for the game ~

MysticOceansFL 02-01-2015 05:40 AM

GO SEAHAWKS !!!!!!!!!

Shystonefem 02-01-2015 06:22 AM

GO PATS!
 
The cheating thing , I have been saying that. Other teams are fined, etc for cheating but; if there is even a hint of Patriots doing something wrong, the scandal gets a name.

Was it spygate? Now deflategate? People hate the Pats because they are a great team. I only remember one year, in the past 11, that the Pats didn't make the playoffs.

Nuff said........ GO PATS! Patriots Nation all the way!

cinnamongrrl 02-01-2015 08:27 AM

I confess...

I've been avoiding this thread because of possible haters. I knew it was safe to look when shystonefemme posted :)

I was happy to come in and see all the positivity. I completely agree with Firegal. Its gonna be an aweaome game. Win or lose, both teams got here...so we don't suck!

I actually like and respect both teams...I'm so excited!

Happy Super Bowl y'all!!!

clay 02-01-2015 08:51 AM

I, like firegal, respect both teams. It IS indeed going to be a very edge of seat, nailbiter game, I think! Am super excited, too. I enjoy bantering with peeps.....it makes me smile! So.....let's enjoy this beautiful day. Exciting game to be watched later.........have an great afternoon! P to the S......clay is never a hater..of anyone or thing!......:)

clay 02-01-2015 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by firegal (Post 967480)
Its sunday now and the past is just that!

Both teams have made it thru all the news...games..critics...

I am a fan... not a hater.... so Go Seahawks!

I hope for a good game from both teams!


PS... disclaimer...still want my hawks to bring it home.

I agree wholeheartedly, bro! Go Hawks!........wearing my new FAVE teeshirt! Go firefighters!

TruTexan 02-01-2015 09:28 AM

count down to Super Bowl .......8 hrs to go, tic toc tic toc tic tok







GO Patriots !!!

RNguy 02-01-2015 09:33 AM

Since my browns or bears or packers aren't in it :(
Screw it,,,,


Go Seahawks

Bčsame* 02-01-2015 09:46 AM

I'm hoping for a good game. The ball better move up and down the field with runs and passes. But I have feeling these two teams will be holding each and other punts will be the only plays moving down the field.

I want to game to be better than the commercials !!



Go west coast :)

Cin 02-01-2015 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bčsame* (Post 967542)

I want to game to be better than the commercials !!

I miss that living in Montreal. We don't get the US commercials here in Canada.

Arwen 02-01-2015 10:10 AM

So the Tarot says the 8 of Wands is the winning team. Because that's an air card, I'm calling Seahawks for the win. :D Let's see how I do.

Cailin 02-01-2015 11:17 AM

I root for the same team every year :p


Go Half Time Show!!!

lol.

TruTexan 02-01-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Tick (Post 967549)
I miss that living in Montreal. We don't get the US commercials here in Canada.

Look the super bowl 2015 commercials up online. You can find them there. I've seen a few already.

Blade 02-01-2015 11:54 AM

Yeah I'm ready for some college football but that is a long wait.

As for the Super Bowl I may watch it, may not. I don't care who wins, but wouldn't pull for the Pats if they were the only team playing.

My opinion is they shouldn't be playing anyway, cheating is cheating and they are known for it. They should have been bumped from the Super Bowl this year and maybe that would help them to think about the importance of playing fair football.

Cin 02-01-2015 12:31 PM

The Seattle Seahawks and Pete Carroll were fined more than $300,000 and docked two minicamp practices in 2015 for breaking NFL rules on offseason practices.

And the Seahawks were fined for a similar violation in 2012 by commissioner Roger Goodell and were forced to give up their final two OTA practices that year, along with an unknown monetary fine. Then they turned around and did the exact same thing again. Clearly they believe the rules aren't meant for them. They haven't learned a thing.

I've read sports writers comments that this head start is why the Seahawks looked so good in the preseason.

If cheating is a reason not to be allowed to play in the super bowl, then they need to find TWO replacement teams. Or maybe since cheating in the case of the Pats hasn't actually been proved, it's the Seahawks who shouldn't be allowed to play in the super bowl.

Bčsame* 02-01-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade (Post 967596)

As for the Super Bowl I may watch it, may not.

Side bet going on...I bet he does!

Blade 02-01-2015 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Tick (Post 967616)
The Seattle Seahawks and Pete Carroll were fined more than $300,000 and docked two minicamp practices in 2015 for breaking NFL rules on offseason practices.

And the Seahawks were fined for a similar violation in 2012 by commissioner Roger Goodell and were forced to give up their final two OTA practices that year, along with an unknown monetary fine. Then they turned around and did the exact same thing again. Clearly they believe the rules aren't meant for them. They haven't learned a thing.

I've read sports writers comments that this head start is why the Seahawks looked so good in the preseason.

If cheating is a reason not to be allowed to play in the super bowl, then they need to find TWO replacement teams. Or maybe since cheating in the case of the Pats hasn't actually been proved, it's the Seahawks who shouldn't be allowed to play in the super bowl.

That would be perfect cuz cheating is cheating. I knew my opinion wouldn't be popular when I posted it, but I've never tried to post to be popular. I'm not stupid enough to believe some random ball boy let the air out of the balls without being told to. And we all know the Pats have cheated in the past and been fined and punished. They just got caught again. Probably all the teams cheat in some way or bend the rules a little, but to do so in championship games and get caught, brings it to the forefront more. It's wrong no matter when they do it.

I've never been a Pats fan, or a Seahawks fan so it really doesn't matter to me who wins. It just supports the notion, of the more money you have the opportunity to make, the more corrupt you become. GREEDY I guess is a better word.

Cin 02-01-2015 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade (Post 967640)
And we all know the Pats have cheated in the past and been fined and punished.

Yes, we ALL know this. That's one of the things that irks me the most about this. Everybody knows about the Pats but not many are aware of all the other teams and some of the actually dangerous and career threatening cheating they engage in. And while cheating is cheating, I believe there are degrees and the reality is nothing was going to change the outcome of that AFC championship game. It was a blow out that had nothing to do with the inflation of footballs. But there has been cheating done by some teams that does give them an advantage or worse that takes out for the season one of the key players on an opposing team. Are those teams vilified? I think not. Just because I'm a Pats fan doesn't mean my brain fell out. Even if I wasn't a Pats fan I could see the unfairness and inconsistency in how the Pats are judged compared to other teams.

Shystonefem 02-01-2015 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Tick (Post 967645)
Yes, we ALL know this. That's one of the things that irks me the most about this. Everybody knows about the Pats but not many are aware of all the other teams and some of the actually dangerous and career threatening cheating they engage in. And while cheating is cheating, I believe there are degrees and the reality is nothing was going to change the outcome of that AFC championship game. It was a blow out that had nothing to do with the inflation of footballs. But there has been cheating done by some teams that does give them an advantage or worse that takes out for the season one of the key players on an opposing team. Are those teams vilified? I think not. Just because I'm a Pats fan doesn't mean my brain fell out. Even if I wasn't a Pats fan I could see the unfairness and inconsistency in how the Pats are judged compared to other teams.


I completely agree, the Pats seem to be judged, in the court of public opinion, harsher than the other teams that do the same type of things.

And, I also agree that the game against the Colts was a blowout. Even if they took away all of the Patriots points in the first half, the Pats still would have won 28-7. It's just how it is.

Now, there is only three and a half hours to kickoff. Enjoy the pre-gaming and the tailgating (if you are lucky enough to be doing that) and enjoy the game. I think it's going to be a great game!

Cin 02-01-2015 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shystonefem (Post 967649)
Now, there is only three and a half hours to kickoff. Enjoy the pre-gaming and the tailgating (if you are lucky enough to be doing that) and enjoy the game. I think it's going to be a great game!

Now you're talking. I think it's going to be a great game too. I'm off to buy some snacks. Can't watch the super bowl without some good eats.

TruTexan 02-01-2015 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shystonefem (Post 967649)
snip snip snip.......

Now, there is only three and a half hours to kickoff. Enjoy the pre-gaming and the tailgating (if you are lucky enough to be doing that) and enjoy the game. I think it's going to be a great game!



TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK !!

Chad 02-01-2015 03:32 PM

Football
 
GO PATRIOTS!!!!!

Corkey 02-01-2015 03:46 PM

Not having a horse in the field, go Seahawks!

Kobi 02-01-2015 03:51 PM

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...5f11cf82cc.jpg

cinnamongrrl 02-01-2015 04:25 PM

Yay! Watching the game with friends makes it even gooder :)

I may slip into chat and see who's talking game!

Now to find my game jersey.... GO PATS!!!

Daktari 02-01-2015 04:34 PM

So, who's playing and when's the first scrum?

:tinfoil:

TruTexan 02-01-2015 05:02 PM

New England Patriots vs Seattle Seahawks on NBC at 5:30pm Central Time








GO PATRIOTS !!!!!!

stargazingboi 02-01-2015 07:08 PM

tide at half time...now that's what I call a good game so far.

Katniss 02-01-2015 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stargazingboi (Post 967874)
tide at half time...now that's what I call a good game so far.


Agreed. The only time I like a blowout is when my stylist is putting finishing touches on an updo before a formal event. :spruceup:


Katniss~~

Cailin 02-01-2015 07:55 PM

Seahawks.. Patriots... who cares who wins, That was Missy Elliot!! score for the halftime show !!

cinnamongrrl 02-01-2015 09:11 PM

What a nail biter! Amazing game! Both teams played like champs....

I'm proud of my boys it wasn't an easy win!

BEST SUPERBOWL I'VE EVER SEEN!


:hangloose:

stargazingboi 02-01-2015 09:11 PM

now that was one hell of a game! way to go PATS!!! Great game Seahawks!

clay 02-01-2015 09:12 PM

What an exciting game! Congrats Patriots! And all you beautiful fans!

JDeere 02-01-2015 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cailin (Post 967890)
Seahawks.. Patriots... who cares who wins, That was Missy Elliot!! score for the halftime show !!

The halftime show was by far the best I have seen in very very long time!

After halftime I gave up on the game anyways lol

firegal 02-01-2015 09:16 PM

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Yes that was a hella of a game. Better game than last year.


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