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Rockinonahigh 01-12-2012 11:35 PM

Tonight I ate a censable dinner of pork chops (1) with a bag of steamed veggies and (1) small dinner roll.But I also played pool tonight and got home about 10:30pm I didnt think I was all that hungry till I ate a small bowl of fal free cottage chees w/a fur strawberries,I got the hungries bad so I ate some pnb w/a fue pork skinsthat have no carbs.All in all I managed to eat 33 carbs it totalse to about 220 calories,dinner only had the fue carbs of the half dinner roll I ate wich is about 15carbs.I didnt take anything to snack on with me but I will from now on..I just forgot this time.

MsTinkerbelly 01-13-2012 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by OneOfAKind (Post 503200)
Ms. T, do you by chance have any main course recipes to share??

I have kept my A1c down to 5.9 with diet alone, but what a struggle LOL. I am a relative newbie diabetic. My question is, I am STARVING a lot. What gives? I've heard it's high BS, but like I said mine isn't bad. I mean, there are times where I could eat the doggoned cupboard doors LMAO. So what do I do so that I am not literally starving all the time??

I just got home and saw this...I will pull out a few really good main dish items and post them tomorrow. I posted a recipe for a lentil loaf in the healthy eating thread...you could take a look at my older posts to locate it...it is yummy! I find if I am super hungry it is because I wait too many hours between meals, or I am not getting enough protein.

fever 01-13-2012 12:25 AM

Important Notice
 
Fat Kills!! Not when we are ready to go, but when our bodies have warned us over and over that it isn't happy and we don't listen. Then, we go to the dr. office after an A1-C test and are told our knees need replacing soon, and that the diabetes is killing you.

OMG, I woke up and heard what was being said.

so, I am now on a parasite cleanse, then a liver cleanse. I am allowed 30g of carb a day, and am having to learn to read food labels, eat smaller portions, add fibre to my yogurt, taking digestive enzymes and the requirements go on and on!!!

Please wish me well with this journey. It is the hardest ever. But, I have two children and two precious grandchildren who love me and need me. Plus, whatever would FR do without me to drive him to valium every time I visit CA. lol

Also, this is part of an intense training session with www.traininginpower.com It is called Weight No More, and I am losing weight, kicking and screaming all the way!! lol Only 3 weeks to go for this boot to the ass.

Any low carb recipe suggestions would be appreciated.

Sitting here wrapped in a blanket freezing as I detox, growling and :hamactor:


Rockinonahigh 01-13-2012 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fever (Post 503421)
Fat Kills!! Not when we are ready to go, but when our bodies have warned us over and over that it isn't happy and we don't listen. Then, we go to the dr. office after an A1-C test and are told our knees need replacing soon, and that the diabetes is killing you.

OMG, I woke up and heard what was being said.

so, I am now on a parasite cleanse, then a liver cleanse. I am allowed 30g of carb a day, and am having to learn to read food labels, eat smaller portions, add fibre to my yogurt, taking digestive enzymes and the requirements go on and on!!!

Please wish me well with this journey. It is the hardest ever. But, I have two children and two precious grandchildren who love me and need me. Plus, whatever would FR do without me to drive him to valium every time I visit CA. lol

Also, this is part of an intense training session with www.traininginpower.com It is called Weight No More, and I am losing weight, kicking and screaming all the way!! lol Only 3 weeks to go for this boot to the ass.

Any low carb recipe suggestions would be appreciated.

Sitting here wrapped in a blanket freezing as I detox, growling and :hamactor:



I wish I could say wellcome to the club,but never the less u r in the right place,I'm sorry u have to deal with this and do hope things get better for u as u go along.I have found that by reading the labels and geting stuff thats is no or very low in carbs has helped a lot,check witht he diabetis assn one any info u can get plus the doc u r useing should be able to help by seting u up with a nutritionist.When I first found out I was prediabetic Ifought it like a mad hatter but after hitting a brick wall and ending up in the hospitial with my sugar off the chart I definatly started paying attention,now my numbers are good and I also eat a regular diet just had to make changes in how I cook moast of my foods.Bakeing,broiling,steaming and those bags of veggie steamers are a life saver.Take care and paya ttention to what the doc says.

MsTinkerbelly 01-13-2012 08:41 AM

As promised...
 
Lentil Loaf

A moist, delicious and easy to slice lentil loaf.


Nutritional Facts
Servings 6 Serving Size 3/4 Inch Slice

Calories 225
Fat 7.5g
Carbohydrates 30g
Protein 10
Fiber 6.5g
Sugar 8g
Sodium mg

Tomato Topping Mixture


1 6oz Can Tomato Paste
1 Tablespoon Sugar
1/2 Tablespoon Apple Cider Vinegar
1 Tablespoon Onion Flakes
1 Teaspoon Garlic Salt

Lentil Loaf


1 Cup Old Fashioned Oats
1/2 Block Extra Firm Tofu
1 Cup Chopped Onion
1/2 Cup Chopped Green Pepper
1/2 Cup Chopped Red Pepper
1 Tablespoon Tomato Topping Mixture
3 Tablespoons Plain Yellow Corn Meal
3/4 Cup Cooked & Drained Lentils
1 Tablespoon Balsamic Vinegar
1 Tablespoon Soy Sauce
2 Tablespoons Olive Oil
1/4 Teaspoon Thyme
1/4 Teaspoon Cumin
1 Teaspoon Chili Powder
1 Teaspoon Dried Parsley
1/2 Teaspoon Salt
1 Teaspoon Sugar
1/2 Teaspoon Garlic Salt
1/4 Teaspoon Onion Salt
1/4 Teaspoon Dried Mustard




Preheat oven to 375 degrees.

Mix the tomato topping mixture together first because you will need a tablespoon to mix into the lentil loaf. The rest will be set aside to coat the loaf when completed.

Add 1 tablespoon of the olive oil to a skillet on medium heat, add chopped onions, red and green bell pepper and let cook until onions are transparent (about 5 minutes), stirring frequently.

In a food processor chop oats for 5 quick pulses.

Drain tofu well and press with hands until all excess water comes out. In a mixing bowl mash tofu with a fork or use grater to coarsely grate.

In the same mixing bowl combine, cooked onions and peppers, 1 tablespoon of tomato mixture, oats, corn meal, lentils, balsamic vinegar, soy sauce, 1 tablespoon olive oil, thyme, cumin, chili powder, parsley, salt, sugar, garlic and onion salt, dried mustard and mix until well combined.

Spray a large sheet of tin foil with cooking spray to form loaf on, place on cookie sheet. On top and in the middle of tin foil form loaf mixture into loaf that is 2 1/2 inches tall and 4 1/2 inches square. Coat top and sides with tomato mixture (you will probably have some left over to spoon on later).

Cook loaf for 20 minutes, then cover with tin foil and cook for another 10 minutes. After cooking let cool for 10 minutes before cutting into it.

MsTinkerbelly 01-13-2012 08:44 AM

Really easy
 
Navy Beans & Barley Soup (Fat Free)


Loaded with fiber and fat free.


Nutritional Facts
Servings 11 Serving Size 1 Cup
Calories 142
Fat 0g
Carbohydrates 32g
Protein 10.5
Fiber 12.25g
Sugar 2.25g
Sodium mg


1 Lb Bag Dried Navy Beans
1/2 Cup Uncooked Pearled Barley
11 Cups Water
1 Teaspoon Dried Oregano
1/4 Teaspoon Ground Black Pepper
1 1/2 Teaspoon Salt
2 Teaspoons Sugar
1 Teaspoon Onion Powder
1 Teaspoon Garlic Powder
1 1/2 Cups Frozen Cut Leaf Spinach


First rinse the navy beans and barley. Once rinsed place them on the stove in a large pot with 8 of the 11 cups of water. Turn them on high and bring them to a quick boil.

Now pour this into the crock pot and turn the crock pot on. Place the oregano, pepper, salt, sugar, onion and garlic powder in with this and stir it around and put the lid on the crock pot. You can cook this soup as fast or as slow as you like. Cooking them on high in the crock pot will be about 4 hours, Low temp will be about 8 hours.

For the last 30 minutes of cooking time, place spinach and the 3 cups of water and let finish cooking for 30 more minutes.

Arwen 01-13-2012 11:03 AM

Just got my lab results back. Last September my A1C was 9 something. This time? 6.3. OH YEAH! The gym thing and eating better is paying off big time! W00T!

MsTinkerbelly 01-13-2012 11:10 AM

Southwestern Black Bean Burgers

This healthy recipe is extremely easy to follow there’s not too much prep work involved and with a variety of alternative add ins you can really create a delicious vegetable burger catered specifically to your taste.
Ingredients
1 15.5 oz can of black beans rinsed, drained, and divided
3 cloves of chopped garlic
1/4 cup of corn
1/4 cup of red bell peppers chopped
1/4 cup of vidalia onions chopped
1/4 cup of medium salsa + 1 tbsp of salsa for garnish (optional)
1/4 cup of fine cornmeal
1 tsp of ground cumin
1 tsp of cilantro
1 tsp of hot sauce (optional)
Method
Begin by using your non stick fat free cooking spray to thoroughly grease a saute pan, add in onions and garlic and saute over medium heat, add in red peppers and corn. Continue to saute until garlic becomes fragrant and onions are translucent, remove from heat and set aside

Meanwhile drain and thoroughly rinse the black beans and divide them in half. Set aside half the black beans in a large mixing bowl.

Add the remaining black beans to the sauteed vegetables, mix ingredients together and then pour the black beans and vegetables into a blender, pulse for 1-2 minutes or until all ingredients have coarsely been pureed and you are left with a creamy consistency

Add mixture to your whole black beans, add in salsa, cornmeal, cumin, cilantro and hot sauce, thoroughly mix all ingredients together

Place mixture in refrigerator and let sit for 2-5 hours(this will help the mixture to firm, making it easier for you to prepare burger patties)Preheat oven to 350Using your hands form four patties about 4-6 inches wide
Place patties on greased baking sheet and let bake for 30 minutes ( 15 minutes on each side or until golden brown)

**I serve these on whole wheat buns or bread, or over brown rice (once mixed together it is like a dirty rice) or just with a simple veggie salad.

SugarFemme 01-13-2012 11:13 AM

Thank you so much Ms. T for all the recipes:)

Rockinonahigh 01-16-2012 12:27 PM

I always figured if I payed attention to my meals and did some exersiseing I would keep my weight under controle and numbers ok,the numbers are still ok but somehow I gained 3 pounds..I gess its water plus with my back sorta on the fritz im being carefull not to make it worse.I am in the middle of a thing between my regular medicaid doc and the doc at LSU hosp about me being diabetic and the acuracy of my AC1 teast.The madicaid doc has never run any kind of test for anything in the fue years I have gone to him untill the last two months when I had a appointment with him and told him about my diabetis all he dose is the same thing I do every fue days buy checking my shugar with a meeter wich always comes back normal.No mater im watching what I eat and take care of things on my end.LSU on the other hand has done and dose everytime I go run test to check how its is going.Personaly I think the medicaid doc is a crack pot,I will be glad when I get on medicare in a couple of months I hope its better.

MsTinkerbelly 01-20-2012 08:59 AM

I'm feeling a bit better today...I have been mildly depressed and pretty stressed out...my numbers really reflect it too! I have gone back to two injections per day (morning and night) until I can get back in a good range.

On a happier note I am down 54lbs now, which is just slightly off the 2lbs per week I am targeting. I'm still on track for my June goal but I'm trying really hard not to make my healthy eating all about weight loss due to some issues I have with feeling in control. Anyway...

Rockinonahigh 02-04-2012 07:53 PM

Dose this make any sence to you'all?
 
Everysence I have been deaing with diabetis I have had probs about washing out,the doc has me on 1200 cals a day and 140 carbs a day,even with that I have probs with light headedness,being tired,takeing naps cause of tiredness,being always just this sides if hungry most of the time.Today I bought a book by Nolan& Heslen who are diabetic docs,in the book they have a way to gauge how many claories and carbs that you can have to get to a your goal weight..My goal weight is 200 X 13( my activity factor for moderate activity)= 2600calories a day I should be eating = 325 carbs a day.The plan is that if I follow that set of number I will reach my goal weight cause im eating the ammount of calories and carbs for that weigh.currently I weigh 252..thats what it said on the scales today,if I follow the numbers for 252= 3246 in calories a day and the carbs go off the chart cause nither go that high.A lot of my problem is I have no real energy anymore,I wash out if I dont watch it,I got some glucerna bars today so I havent had a chanch to use them yet,my number are still good but all day today all I have done is rest and sleep.I have a docs appointment on 3-3-2012 so I know I will amnage till then if I need to I can go to the er.

JustJo 02-04-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh (Post 520443)
Everysence I have been deaing with diabetis I have had probs about washing out,the doc has me on 1200 cals a day and 140 carbs a day,even with that I have probs with light headedness,being tired,takeing naps cause of tiredness,being always just this sides if hungry most of the time.Today I bought a book by Nolan& Heslen who are diabetic docs,in the book they have a way to gauge how many claories and carbs that you can have to get to a your goal weight..My goal weight is 200 X 13( my activity factor for moderate activity)= 2600calories a day I should be eating = 325 carbs a day.The plan is that if I follow that set of number I will reach my goal weight cause im eating the ammount of calories and carbs for that weigh.currently I weigh 252..thats what it said on the scales today,if I follow the numbers for 252= 3246 in calories a day and the carbs go off the chart cause nither go that high.A lot of my problem is I have no real energy anymore,I wash out if I dont watch it,I got some glucerna bars today so I havent had a chanch to use them yet,my number are still good but all day today all I have done is rest and sleep.I have a docs appointment on 3-3-2012 so I know I will amnage till then if I need to I can go to the er.

Hi Rockin,

Honestly, 1200 calories doesn't sound like near enough to me. When I was pregnant with my son (and had gestational diabetes) they put me on 1500 calories a day at first...and I started losing weight way too fast. They put me up to 1800 and everything balanced out.

I haven't counted calories exactly since then, but know that I aim for about 1800ish now too and am losing weight slowly. I currently weigh 204....so my calorie need is actually lower than yours.

I'm not a medical professional by any stretch of the imagination, but it seems like you're on too restrictive of a diet to me when it comes to calories. Limiting carbs and fats are both important for diabetics....but you still need enough calories to get adequate nutrients, and so that your body doesn't decide there's a famine on and start hanging on to every fat cell.

A dear friend of mine is pre-diabetic and weighs about 275 right now. The doctors put her on a 2,400 calorie plan and she's losing slowly.

Rockinonahigh 02-04-2012 08:35 PM

Jo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJo (Post 520465)
Hi Rockin,

Honestly, 1200 calories doesn't sound like near enough to me. When I was pregnant with my son (and had gestational diabetes) they put me on 1500 calories a day at first...and I started losing weight way too fast. They put me up to 1800 and everything balanced out.

I haven't counted calories exactly since then, but know that I aim for about 1800ish now too and am losing weight slowly. I currently weigh 204....so my calorie need is actually lower than yours.

I'm not a medical professional by any stretch of the imagination, but it seems like you're on too restrictive of a diet to me when it comes to calories. Limiting carbs and fats are both important for diabetics....but you still need enough calories to get adequate nutrients, and so that your body doesn't decide there's a famine on and start hanging on to every fat cell.

A dear friend of mine is pre-diabetic and weighs about 275 right now. The doctors put her on a 2,400 calorie plan and she's losing slowly.

I feel like im on stall,everything is just funky,I ate skettie and meat balls for dinner last night w/1 small slice of garlic bread..this was at 6;00pm by 9pm I was on my way to a crash.I had eaten sencable all day but just had no reserve at al,l one of my team mates ran to the drug store and got some clucose pills and was literaly feeding the dam thing to me till I could think straight.Sje works with a nurseing home with lots of dabetic folks that she is incharge of theire daily intake and giveing them meds when needed.She also tested me right there and I was at 90 on the count..heck i've never been that low.Im going to slowly add calories and carbs cause I need to do something itll my appointment in march cause im so tired of feeling this way,I want to get back to the workouts but this way I keep crashing if I dont watch it.

JustJo 02-04-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh (Post 520495)
I feel like im on stall,everything is just funky,I ate skettie and meat balls for dinner last night w/1 small slice of garlic bread..this was at 6;00pm by 9pm I was on my way to a crash.I had eaten sencable all day but just had no reserve at al,l one of my team mates ran to the drug store and got some clucose pills and was literaly feeding the dam thing to me till I could think straight.Sje works with a nurseing home with lots of dabetic folks that she is incharge of theire daily intake and giveing them meds when needed.She also tested me right there and I was at 90 on the count..heck i've never been that low.Im going to slowly add calories and carbs cause I need to do something itll my appointment in march cause im so tired of feeling this way,I want to get back to the workouts but this way I keep crashing if I dont watch it.

Yes it sounds like you're getting too low.

One thing I found is that when I eat white flour products (like regular pasta or white bread) they quickly turn to sugar....so my blood sugar soars, then crashes lower than before.

Eating things that are lower on the glycemic index measure seems to help me stay more stable. I have a book on it...but I know there is good information out on the web about low glycemic foods. The other thing that has helped me to eat more lean protein and more healthy fat (like olives, olive oil and avocado). One of my most frequent snacks is a stick of string cheese and a handful of olives....works like a charm for me.

Definitely keep testing, and recording what you eat. Every diabetic is different....so you'll need to keep some records until you learn what it is that keeps you stable and what triggers either a spike or a crash for you.

Hugs,
Jo

Rockinonahigh 02-04-2012 08:55 PM

Jo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJo (Post 520507)
Yes it sounds like you're getting too low.

One thing I found is that when I eat white flour products (like regular pasta or white bread) they quickly turn to sugar....so my blood sugar soars, then crashes lower than before.

Eating things that are lower on the glycemic index measure seems to help me stay more stable. I have a book on it...but I know there is good information out on the web about low glycemic foods. The other thing that has helped me to eat more lean protein and more healthy fat (like olives, olive oil and avocado). One of my most frequent snacks is a stick of string cheese and a handful of olives....works like a charm for me.

Definitely keep testing, and recording what you eat. Every diabetic is different....so you'll need to keep some records until you learn what it is that keeps you stable and what triggers either a spike or a crash for you.

Hugs,
Jo


When I found out I had diabetis I got this pack in the mail about what I shoud eat and how much of what in calories and carbs,thats it, I havent gotten one shred of info form the hospital or the doc beond that,I figured with all the ballwhoo about this more infor and how to deal with this would be at hand from them.I do keep a food journal,fixin skettie was a spur of the moment things cause I was in a hurry cause it was my night to play pool so I didnt want much to cleanup and put away...next time I wil plan better.

JustJo 02-04-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh (Post 520527)
When I found out I had diabetis I got this pack in the mail about what I shoud eat and how much of what in calories and carbs,thats it, I havent gotten one shred of info form the hospital or the doc beond that,I figured with all the ballwhoo about this more infor and how to deal with this would be at hand from them.I do keep a food journal,fixin skettie was a spur of the moment things cause I was in a hurry cause it was my night to play pool so I didnt want much to cleanup and put away...next time I wil plan better.

I totally hear you...and it's a pain to figure out. It took me years...and I still have spikes and crashes when I get caught somewhere longer than I expected, etc.

Hang in there...you'll get this! :)

Massive 02-05-2012 03:54 PM

I have to admit that lately I've been letting my diet slide, not taking my metformin, and not doing a damn thing about it, I'd use the excuse that I've been ill off and on for the past two months, but that's not really an excuse, I'm responsible for my own health and well-being.
It can be hard sticking to the diets and taking the meds sometimes, at least it is for me, because here in the UK there's hardly anywhere, when you don't live in or near a city, to get foods which are low or no sugar, yeah I can get all the fresh fruit and vege from the farmers markets, but my RA makes it hard to be able to stand and prep then cook a healthy meal, and the support network is no good because it's all based too far away to travel to without ending up contorted into a mini pretzel on public transport.
I've also found that if I constantly take the dosage of metformin they want me to, I end up with so little energy that just getting out of bed is hard and it's already difficult enough with my RA getting in the way as it is...

JustJo 02-05-2012 04:06 PM

((( Massive )))

I so hear you on the fatigue thing. I think sometimes it's hard for people who don't share it to understand just how bone-aching exhausted we can get....and sometimes for what seems to be for no reason to non-diabetic folks. Honestly, I can't even imagine pairing it with the pain and stiffness of RA as well.

And....I'm still gonna waggle my finger at you and tell you to take care of yourself. Fresh stuff is better than processed....and it's still possible to eat healthy even when you're not up to cooking....fruit, low fat cheese, salad, greek yogurt....these are the things I grab when I'm without the time or energy to cook. And they help me stay in balance.

And take your meds please....I know what a pain it can be, but it's important. We want to keep you around! :)

Massive 02-05-2012 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJo (Post 521152)
((( Massive )))

I so hear you on the fatigue thing. I think sometimes it's hard for people who don't share it to understand just how bone-aching exhausted we can get....and sometimes for what seems to be for no reason to non-diabetic folks. Honestly, I can't even imagine pairing it with the pain and stiffness of RA as well.

And....I'm still gonna waggle my finger at you and tell you to take care of yourself. Fresh stuff is better than processed....and it's still possible to eat healthy even when you're not up to cooking....fruit, low fat cheese, salad, greek yogurt....these are the things I grab when I'm without the time or energy to cook. And they help me stay in balance.

And take your meds please....I know what a pain it can be, but it's important. We want to keep you around! :)

The combination of diabetes and RA does make life interesting some days, especially with the wonderful lack of sunshine on this side of the pond.

I promise, hand on my heart, I am taking care of myself now, I'm taking my meds, and eating healthily cos I have no intention of going anywhere anytime soon, I've got so much more I want to do with my life ;)

MsTinkerbelly 02-26-2012 02:20 PM

Finally past my plateu, and have lost 59 lbs.

My blood sugars are much better, and except for this cold that is hanging on I feel good!

I hope everyone is well (f)

Lady_Di 04-03-2012 11:50 AM

Not diabetic, not yet anyways... and if I have anything to say about I will not get it.

My grandmother died from complications from Type II Diabetes. My father had it as one of his many co-morbidities. My mother is pre-diabetic with a serious chocolate addiction which I hope she never gives up. She does not have that much longer on the planet, I say do what you enjoy til the day you die.

I pray she dies like her mother did, suddenly from a sudden cardiac event, or a stroke that is swift and sure, hopefully in her sleep. DNR, no tubes, no bs allowed for her. Her goal is to go gracefully into that good night and hopefully get to be with my father again as she really misses him big time. Like my grandparents, they were married over 60 years.

Meanwhile on this side of the veil, I intend to do all I can to prevent diabetes. This disease has so many lifestyle facets to it.

For me, personally sugar and white flour, all artificial sweetners are toxic for me. I am beginning to think I am better with out all gluten as well, though I do not have celiacs disease. I just feel better when I don't consume em.

I hope everyone monitors their blood sugars, even folks that do not have the disease. As it is rampant and many cases go undiagnosed.

Prevention is the cure I want. And for those already dealing with this, keep up the good fight. Your life is worth it.

Off to get a complete blood panel and see how good my numbers are. I am very lucky, for the most part I have avoided sweets, though there have been notable exceptions. Especially since my ex lived on refined everything! Which is all poison to me. One of the best things about being on my own, is eating what is best for me.

Lets hear it for the veggies and protein dance~ with a bit of fruit salsa added in for the sheer joy of it.

Eating and moving is a pleasure today.

Thank goodness! Eating delicious food is like healing medicine.

MsTinkerbelly 04-03-2012 12:49 PM

My blood sugar levels continue to decrease with the drop in my weight...65lbs now. All of my labs are amazing, and even my heart specialist is taking note of the changes. He has asked me a lot of questions, and has begun to read up on the Vegan/oil free diet as a way to possibly help some of his other patients.

I hope that I can maintain this way of eating...it's fine when we are home, but it really restricts our traveling. But, seeing those blood sugar numbers dropping...priceless.

JustJo 04-27-2012 07:22 AM

Got a PM with diabetes questions earlier, so thought I'd come give this thread a *BUMP*.....lots of good information here for diabetics and pre-daibetics. :rrose:

Rockinonahigh 06-29-2012 09:09 AM

I got a call from my new docs office about my blood test,the call came in yesterday but I didnt call till they opened this morning,my Ac1 is totaly normal.Wow..I am totaly surprised about that and glad to hear it,the doc said for me to contenue with my work outs and meal plans.

Question if anyone can anser it..I keep the Atkins meal bars handy incase I need one when im out and about on the package it says...only 3g net carbs but on the back with the ingredences it says total carbs 19g....confuseing to say the least.

So how is everyone doing in the crazy summer heet,its been a while sence we chatted.

Leigh 06-30-2012 01:06 PM

Good afternoon everyone,

I'm a Type 2 diabetic and have come here for support and to help get myself back on track. I will admit, because I trust everyone here, that I have been ignoring my diet pretty much since I got diagnosed last October and I've been reading this thread over the last day or two. This is a horrible disease for sure, I've seen the effects it can have on people and its not something to mess with thus I am here to not only get helpful advice and hints/tips from my friends but also because I really want to rein this in before it gets out of control ~ I look forward to being part of this group :)

JustJo 11-12-2012 07:36 PM

Been quite awhile since I've been in this thread, but some diabetic questions came up on the healthy weight loss thread, so I thought I'd give this a bump...

Lately, my biggest struggle has been with fatigue.

I have decided that it's really hard for non-diabetics to understand the intensity and depth of diabetic fatigue. It's not a constant thing for me, thankfully, but when it's going on I am exhausted....exhausted even beyond the point I was with a new baby with colic who didn't sleep through the night until he was 17 months old, plus a high stress job.

When it hits, I literally find it a struggle to keep my eyes open. The prospect of even the simplest activities can make me feel like all I want to do is sit (or lay) down and cry.

The problem, of course, is that it's not visible to anyone else. There's no wound....no temperature...no outward symptoms. And...because of my earliest training...I keep pushing through, keep doing what I need to do, even when I feel like I could easily either throw up or dissolve in tears.

It came to a real head for me today, when I posted on Facebook about my struggles with "the devil dogs"....and one of my oldest (as in elementary school) friends gave me a mini-lecture about how "all" they needed was a long walk every day.

As if I didn't freaking know that.

But I'm a strong woman, and independent, and....yes...a bit proud. And it hurts to say "really? so then what do I do when that's the last thing in the world I can do? what do I do when I struggle some nights just to make dinner for my son and clean up the kitchen? what about how I need to focus the energy I have on my job (since it's the only thing feeding us)...and struggling just to stay even on the filth and destruction they produce each day?"

I think people are so used to seeing me just keep on doing what needs to be done, that they don't give a second thought to how I might feel while I'm doing it.

And how I feel, all too often, is exhausted beyond belief, and on the verge of tears.

*end rant*

Heavenleahangel 11-13-2012 05:14 AM

U've never seen this thread before and want to share my experience. I started out as a Type II diabetic almost 25 years ago when my diabetes didn't go away after the birth of my daughter. I was told I had been diabetic for a while as my A1c was already 8. Fast forward the 25 years and I sooo wish I had listened way back when and learned everything I could have about this dreaded disease.
I consider this disease to be a sneaky bastard as I didn't *feel* sick for many years yet the damage was slowly gnawing away at my internal organs. But in the good ole south where tea has enough sugar to be considered syrup and everything is fried and covered in gravy, diabetes is soooo down played. My aunt always said "Oh you just got a touch of sugar". I didn't hear about the repercussions of sticking my head in the sand and how working 3 jobs was killing me slowly but surely.
I now know the strange relationship between high blood sugar and high triglycerides is a deadly combination. My sugar and triglycerides tend to go hand in hand and those delicate arteries in my heart and vessels just got clogged with the plaque and gunk which lead to coronary artery disease. Thank God I found it early and had to have 2 stents put in.
I also suffer from "painful diabetic neuropathy," I don't feel my feet like I should which lead to Charcot in both feet, I have gastroparesis or nerve damage to the nerves in my stomach which makes food digestion slower, and I get an actual shot of Avastin in each eye monthly. (Yes, the dr puts a needle in the outer corner of my eye each month.) The alternative is going blind. Diabetes is nothing to play with. Did I mention I am only 43 years old? I, like some people, just didn't listen. I wish now I had...

NJFemmie 11-13-2012 07:01 AM

My mother was a type II diabetic. I remember as a little girl, she would teach me how to inject her insulin in case of an emergency, and taught me the warning signs of a diabetic attack.

With that being said, I was recently diagnosed with type II diabetes, but fortunately do not require insulin. My A1c was not that high, but enough to categorize me as an official diabetic. *sigh* Gotta love genetics. I didn't want to admit this to myself at first, because the initial feeling when you hear something like this is - "I've failed myself". But, if it runs in the family, your odds of getting it is that much higher. In fact, my sister informed me that one of my brothers now has it, and he's on a ton of medications. I do not want to walk that path.

Good news is, with diet modification and daily testing, it seems that I am for the most part, within normal readings. I have yet to get the results of my latest A1c, but I am pretty confident that it's better than before if not close to or even normal. I am only on one dose of metformin, and my doctor feels no need to increase my medication. Yay for me. :) It's under control and that's the goal. My ultimate goal is to get off the meds and control it with diet and exercise because this CAN be reversed.

Carbs are the enemy. I am a carb maniac, so getting used to a diet with limited carbs and sugar is rough but doable. I don't drink soda anymore, eat very little carbs, and exercise regularly because exercise helps control the insulin in your body. It's overwhelming at first, but once you get a grasp on it, it's manageable. My mom died at a very young age and I certainly don't want to follow her footsteps.

For those ignoring their diet, I implore you not to. Diabetes is a silent killer and will damage your organs and nerves over time. It can cause blindness, nerve damage, heart and other organ failure... (you get the idea). Besides, purging the crap that only does your body harm makes you feel better all around. You can still eat the things you like (for the most part), but it's all about portion control. When I eat something that I know might spike my sugar, I'll work out afterwards. I find that it lowers my sugar and burns off some of those nasty calories.

NJFemmie 11-13-2012 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh (Post 608811)
I got a call from my new docs office about my blood test,the call came in yesterday but I didnt call till they opened this morning,my Ac1 is totaly normal.Wow..I am totaly surprised about that and glad to hear it,the doc said for me to contenue with my work outs and meal plans.

Question if anyone can anser it..I keep the Atkins meal bars handy incase I need one when im out and about on the package it says...only 3g net carbs but on the back with the ingredences it says total carbs 19g....confuseing to say the least.

So how is everyone doing in the crazy summer heet,its been a while sence we chatted.


Net carbs is another name for carbohydrates that are processed as dietary carbohydrates by the body's systems. The net carbs have a direct impact on your blood sugar. To determine your intake, you subtract the grams of fiber, glycerine, sugar alcohols from the number grams of carbs you have eaten. The net carb is what is left. This is the count you use on such things as the Atkin's diet. You need to know why fiber is not counted as a carbohydrate. Fiber does not turn into sugar in your system, so it doesn't act as a sugar load in your body. For instance, if a bread has 27 carb grams and 3 fiber grams, you have net carbs of 24 grams. The fiber actually cancels out the fat, gram for gram.
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NJFemmie 11-13-2012 07:27 AM

I've mentioned this before in another thread, but I find the diabetic friendly GNC Lean Shake 25 (NOT the powder version, get the bottles) is an excellent source of protein. It has 25 grams of protein and 6 carbs (three of which are fiber, so it's only 3 net carbs).

Calories 170 Sodium 390 mg Total Fat 6 g Potassium 475 mg Saturated 2 g Total Carbs 6 g Polyunsaturated 0 g Dietary Fiber 3 g Monounsaturated 0 g Sugars 2 g Trans 0 g Protein 25 g Cholesterol 20 mg

I get the swiss chocolate because it tastes like Yoohoo to me, and it's guilt free snacking or meal replacement. Sometimes I'll add this to my regular meal if I feel that the meal itself doesn't have enough protein. When Mare and I travel, I'll take some with me to help work out the "eating out" dilemmas most diabetics are faced with.

Heavenleahangel 11-13-2012 06:22 PM

I forgot mention in my earlier posting that I have been in pancreatitus so many times my pancreas no longer makes insulin so I am now a type I diabetic on an insulin pump. The high triglycerides was the catalyst to the pancreatitus.
I had my first physical therapy appointment today and was ashamed to be sitting there on the table for the therapist to tell me I had a muscular ability scale of 8 out of 64! He said a scale of 1 was someone totally bed bound. My muscles have atrophied and we made a plan for PT 3x a week with a re- evaluation in 10 weeks, but to look for PT to last longer. Once I get some strength back, I will also do pool therapy. Looks like I got my work cut out for me!

GreeneyedMe 11-13-2012 06:52 PM

The next step.
 
I have been Type 2 since January of 2000. It is a difficult battle to say the least. I have been careful, not perfect...I am human and I love to eat. I have a sweet tooth from HELL....food has become an enemy. I struggle through my days...this... that, this...that....sigh...I'm an ok cook, I get by...I really don't enjoy grocery shopping...reading label after label...sighing in frustration as I put it back....

Today, at my A1C followup...I have been informed I will now become insulin dependent. Shit. Dammit. I am not thrilled. I knew it would come one day. I guess I am lucky it took this long....not exactly excited about needles, but if I want to stay around to finish growing up my boy...this is part of what I have to do...
.....and I am thanking the good lord above for the most wonderful Butch Daddy who has appeared in my life...without him at this moment, I honestly don't know what I would do.

Leigh 11-18-2012 11:15 PM

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to write this because a friend of mine pointed out that I am not taking care of myself health wise and being Diabetic that's not a good thing; the problem is I don't really know where to begin. If anyone could help me with things to do that will help me to properly control my diabetes I'd greatly appreciate it; I'm going to read this entire thread over the next few days and take notes but I hope I can talk to more of you who are also diabetic :)

deb0670 11-19-2012 01:53 AM

I was diagnosed with Type II in 2002, but have now been Insulin dependent for the last couple of years. I really do not like needled( except for tattoo needles), and it was very difficult for me to deal with having to inject myself 4 times a day. I am pretty used to it now. I have to really watch what i eat, even tho when i get a craving, i satisfy it .
I have lost some weight, but insulin is notorious for making people gain weight, so it is a struggle.

NJFemmie 11-24-2012 08:28 AM

Most recent A1c test came back and ......... (Drum roll please)

Almost normal! (although Mare tends to argue the definition of normal, I am referring to blood sugars here)

I've managed to get it below 6!! 5.8 to be exact.
My initial diagnosis test a few months ago was 7.2, which isn't great, but it wasn't the end of the world either. The ultimate goal is to get it below 5.5, get off the meds, and control it with diet and exercise.

*Clearing throat*

I'd like to thank Mare for Her support, my cats for being fluffy and adorable, regular exercise and healthier eating. :) Oh yeah, and probably Metformin. :/ I hate my *^#$*&@ meds.


Leigh - If you don't mind my mini-diatribe, I'd like to say it's simple, but it's not (and yet it is). When I was first diagnosed, I was devastated and overwhelmed. I am such a carb junky and also have a sweet tooth from hell and I wasn't sure I would survive the life change - but I did it, and I'm still alive. :) I still have moments where I am overwhelmed and not sure what I should or should not eat, but it becomes easier with time.

The first start would be to get in some regular exercise - at least 30 minutes a day, a few times a week at minimum = walking, bike riding, SOMETHING. Exercise helps the body metabolize and burn sugar. First and foremost, if you are overweight, you have to start losing it.

Cut out the bad carbs. I wouldn't recommend eliminating them completely, but choose wisely and cut them down considerably. Potatoes, rice, breads - all bad if you are eating the wrong ones. Stay away from white breads and rices. If you do find yourself wanting them, resist! or at the very least, cut down the portions. Diabetes is all about portion control. Eat small, healthy meals throughout the day.

Increase your protein intake. Get yourself some protein shakes, eat more meats instead of starches. Eat foods with fiber and consume more veggies. My plate used to have more carb than protein, but I reversed it. If I want to indulge in a little more carb than usual, I make sure I work out an hour after eating.

Cut out any candy. Don't indulge in sugar free candy. Sugar free candy may not have "sugar" in them, but they do have sugar alcohols in them, and that is a no no.

Drink more water and stay away from sodas - even diet sodas - as the sugar substitute in them causes a blood sugar spike. Drink those sparingly.

Test your blood regularly to see how certain foods effect you. If you notice that your sugar is high after eating a particular food, then cut that food out or limit how much you eat it.

My mother was insulin dependent, and that is my inspiration. I DO NOT want this to progress to the point where that may happen. My mom suffered from a lot of illnesses - and didn't have the medications, resources and support that we have now. If you continue to ignore it, you WILL develop serious health issues over time. Diabetes is destined to cause issues.

JustJo 11-24-2012 08:56 AM

Bravo NJ Femmie! 5.8 is awesome :)

Good advice Leigh....and you really, truly do need to take this disease seriously.

The big problem with diabetes is that we can eat sugar, and feel fine. It takes a long time to catch up with us. But, if we don't control it....it can kill us, blind us, make us have amputations.....serious, horrible stuff.

One of the easiest "tricks" is to make your plate half veggies....and not starchy veggies like corn and carrots. Make your plate half green veggies, squash, cauliflower....good veggies. The other half is 1/4 starch (leaning towards brown rice over white, whole grain pasta over white, sweet potatoes over white) and 1/4 lean protein.

Make your beverages water, unsweetened coffee or unsweetened tea....no soda (diet or regular), no juice...learn to love water.

And NJ Femmie is correct....you have to move. Walk, do housework, go to the gym, do yardwork....anything...but you have to move.

Good luck :goodluck:

NJFemmie 11-24-2012 04:04 PM

As a side note, if you absolutely have to have carbs - I recommend ....

http://images.netrition.com/images/i...g/212-0002.jpg

Mare found this in a magazine and I recently bought a box to try it out - my blood sugar was not whacked out and it's actually really good. (We are not fans of whole wheat/multi-grain pasta, so if Mare can eat this, anyone can :))

Here's a coupon to try it:
http://www.dreamfieldsfoods.com/ppc_...FYqZ4AodVnYARQ

lusciouskiwi 11-27-2012 02:56 AM

Grapefruit and pills mix warning
 
Hi everyone - I'm not diabetic but my dad is on insulin injections and mum is borderline diabetic (she's on medication but her dr feels if she can get enough weight off, she'll be fine).

I read this article and thought I would share it with you:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20497086

Maybe there isn't a negative impact with diabetes medication, but thought I would share it anyways.

Hope you had an enjoyable Thanksgiving Dinner.

Lady Pamela 03-25-2013 05:00 PM

Today I was told I have this
"Insulin Resistance and Prediabetes"

Seems like everytime I go in they find something..anyways it is good to know what I have atleast.
Also why I have gained weight. That frustrating me more than anything.

Does anyone have any ideas or info that will help me with this?

Thanks so much
Blessings


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