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Kelt 02-19-2020 04:04 PM

What’s on my mind in politics is the ages of all of the front running candidates. If one supposes another year of chaotic campaigning followed by a probable eight year run that starts getting into statistically pretty questionable territory regarding the potential for cognitive decline, not to mention other possible health challenges.

I would be really interested in seeing the running mate choices. I think the potential Vice Presidents needs serious consideration as well.

There is a lower age limit when running for president, I think Congress should think about implementing an upper limit as well. Won’t work for this cycle, but I think it might be prudent for the future.

charley 02-19-2020 08:25 PM

Democratic Debate in Las Vegas
 
Am watching the Democratic Debate in Las Vegas now (wanted to see Bloomberg), also in Chat, where there is no one (lol).

homoe 02-20-2020 08:52 AM

White House Appoints Outspoken Ambassador As New Acting Head Of Intelligence
 
President Trump has named Richard Grenell, the vocal and controversial U.S. ambassador to Germany, as the new acting director of national intelligence, replacing the current acting head of the nation's 17 spy agencies.

Grenell, who has been the U.S. envoy to Berlin since May 2018, is known to be fiercely loyal to Trump, but critics have noted that he has no background in intelligence and no top-level management experience.

Another Trump lackey PLUS by appointing him "acting head" it avoids a senate confirmation hearing.

homoe 02-20-2020 08:57 AM

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Roger Stone's sentencing. I can't wait to see how this end!

nhplowboi 02-20-2020 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by homoe (Post 1262239)
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Roger Stone's sentencing. I can't wait to see how this end!

I am thinking Trump did all those pardons the other day (none of which were deserved) to make it look routine when he pardons that idiot Stone. I'd love to see Roger in orange if only for the fact orange jump suits don't have spread collars. SAD, as Donald says.

homoe 02-20-2020 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ginger (Post 1262191)
The pardons. That's what's on my mind. Trump's disgraceful pardoning of white collar white criminals Michael Milken, Rod Blagojevich, Bernard Kerik and Ed DeBartolo Jr. Who's next? Roger Stone? And if he's convicted, Harvey Weinstein? Every dictator needs a phalanx of monied lackies who aren't afraid to break the law tight around him. Is there a role for them in Trump's next incarnation? Thoughts like these used to seem crazy. We didn't know then what crazy was.

The following is from the NYTimes.....

The 11 Criminals Granted Clemency by Trump Had One Thing in Common: Connections!

I think that about covers it, need we say more!?

nhplowboi 02-20-2020 11:41 AM

^5 for 40 months because 40 months for someone like Stone is akin to 40 years.

homoe 02-20-2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by homoe (Post 1262238)
President Trump has named Richard Grenell, the vocal and controversial U.S. ambassador to Germany, as the new acting director of national intelligence, replacing the current acting head of the nation's 17 spy agencies.

Grenell, who has been the U.S. envoy to Berlin since May 2018, is known to be fiercely loyal to Trump, but critics have noted that he has no background in intelligence and no top-level management experience.

Another Trump lackey PLUS by appointing him "acting head" it avoids a senate confirmation hearing.

And so the plot thickens! NYTimes has reported updates to this story today! Watch this space for further developments folks.....

C0LLETTE 02-20-2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nhplowboi (Post 1262251)
^5 for 40 months because 40 months for someone like Stone is akin to 40 years.

Stone is 67 now. Forty months will have him out at approx 71. That's 2-3 yrs younger than Trump is now. These guys are like reptiles.They slither and survive.
And that despite Trump probably releasing him back into the swamp before he even gets one leg into a prison jumpsuit.

homoe 02-20-2020 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by C0LLETTE (Post 1262264)
Stone is 67 now. Forty months will have him out at approx 71. That's 2-3 yrs younger than Trump is now. These guys are like reptiles.They slither and survive.
And that despite Trump probably releasing him back into the swamp before he even gets one leg into a prison jumpsuit.


...:goodpost:...

charley 02-22-2020 04:43 PM

Sanders in Nevada
 
I am watching the Nevada Caucus, and so far, Bernie is leading. I just listened to what he said regarding health care. He is right, ya know. We in Canada see health care as a right. I am beginning to see that the strongest candidate so far is Bernie. Everything he says resonates with me. Why can't one of the most powerful and richest countries in the world offer free health care when smaller and less financially able countries such as Canada, France and the UK, etc. (and other European countries) offer free health care to its citizens? It demands - I think - a change of attitude in the people who vote.

I have had a few accidents in my life, have a steel plate in my arm, many screws, visits to the orthopedic surgeon afterwards, etc. There was nerve damage (couldn't feel my fingers), shoulder problems, months of physio, and free reiki. Mostly, have all of my arm back (like more than 95%), and ya know, it didn't cost me a cent.

Recently, having some dental work done, and discovered that the B.C. govt has a $1000 amount available for me that covers most of the costs...

Will probably be having the cataracts removed in the hospital free of charge as well (I changed my mind regarding Lasik surgery).

I don't worry if anything else happens, as I know even as I age, that the govt will take care of me, and this from a country that is not as rich or powerful as the U.S.

It isn't perfect here in Canada, but I don't expect perfection.

If all the delegates across the U.S.A. can rally around one candidate, I now think the Dems can win, even if it is Bernie. I wish him luck.

I don't believe that Bernie in the last election "split the vote". The fact that he didn't get nominated to run did not cause the Dems to lose. One can't blame him for the Dems' loss in that election. The Dems lost cause of Trump and his promise to make America great again (the same promise that Hitler made in the 1930's that got him elected).

Bloomberg can't debate for beans and he has too much baggage, and Biden isn't strong enough. I still like Warren, so we shall see who gets chosen. I am beginning to get interested again to see what happens. :)

homoe 02-25-2020 06:22 PM

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nhplowboi 02-26-2020 12:19 PM

They must have found a new med/drug for Donald as I didn't hear him sniffing during his India press conference. I did find him extremely flat and as usual talking and explaining things like a second grader (a little truth mixed in with a vivid imagination).

~ocean 02-26-2020 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nhplowboi (Post 1262525)
They must have found a new med/drug for Donald as I didn't hear him sniffing during his India press conference. I did find him extremely flat and as usual talking and explaining things like a second grader (a little truth mixed in with a vivid imagination).


nhplowboi 02-28-2020 01:25 PM

“It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear,” Trump said at the White House Thursday.....I have often noticed what he spouts are reflections of himself. I can only hope one day I wake up, the miracle has happened and he is gone.

homoe 02-28-2020 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nhplowboi (Post 1262594)
“It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear,” Trump said at the White House Thursday.....I have often noticed what he spouts are reflections of himself. I can only hope one day I wake up, the miracle has happened and he is gone.

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Martina 03-03-2020 06:32 AM

I'm going to miss Chris Matthews. I think it was probably time for him to go, but the MSNBC primetime lineup is weak without him. He has character and personality. I disagreed with him on many important issues, but I liked his show. I like Lawrence O'Donnell, but he's weird as fuck. I get really tired of Rachel's historical ramblings and tendency to exaggerate. Chris Hayes is a sweetheart, but omg his show is like watching paint dry. I guess they could bring Al Sharpton back from the weekend or rehire Melissa Harris-Perry so the weekday lineup is not lily white. Just don't move the homophobe "my emails were hacked" Joy Reid back to prime time, please.

They might put Steve Karnacki into the slot. I like him, but I hope not. It would be another dull white boy.

Well, I will miss Chris. There's no replacing that kind of experience. He was a power broker himself when he worked for Tip O'Neill. He knows politics from the inside. In contrast, Brian Williams is just a slick network journalist. And talk about dull. Anyway, in spite if his anti-Bernie hysteria, Chris Matthews will really be missed. Damn.

homoe 03-03-2020 10:38 AM

President Trump asserted Monday that the Democratic primary is “rigged” against Sen. Bernie Sanders...
 
“I think it’s rigged against Bernie,” Trump told reporters at the White House before departing for a campaign rally in North Carolina, adding that Sanders could still “pull through” and win the nomination.


He SO wants it to be Bernie he runs against!

His hope is to play the "socialist" card to the hilt! I mean he threw it into his state of the union speech to a resounding applause!

C0LLETTE 03-03-2020 01:55 PM

Until I see Trump hug, kiss, or even shake Xi Jingpin's hand without surgical gloves on, I wont believe a word either of these vile political demagogues say about controlling the spread of coronavirus.

Maybe Pence could be the "King's Taster"....Xi kisses Pence, if Pence doesn't die within 2 weeks, Pence kisses Trump.

homoe 03-03-2020 06:23 PM

OMG the ego on this guy......
 
Bloomberg says contested convention "only way I can win".


MIAMI (AP) — Mike Bloomberg acknowledged Tuesday he’s aiming for what some Democrats say would be the party’s worst nightmare: A contested convention. “It’s the only way I can win,” he told reporters during a campaign stop at one of his field offices in Miami.

Bloomberg has argued he’s the only candidate who can beat President Donald Trump in the general election.

C0LLETTE 03-03-2020 07:01 PM

BLOOMBERG THANKS SAMOA.

Bloomberg, in gratitude to Samoa, has announced he will buy it and make it the centrepiece of his financial and personal empire. He stopped short of announcing that he, personally, would move to Samoa but he did say that at least half of his Cabinet would be Samoans.

Orema 03-23-2020 09:36 AM

Mario Cuomo "A Tale of Two Cities" Speech
 
Mario Cuomo gave this keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in 1984. I was living in NYC at the time and was a fan Cuomo. Despite the roar of applause, most Americans weren't interested in what Mario had to say. The "Masters of the Universe" were in charge telling us to be patient because "trickle-down effect" would soon be in action. <snort>

This is what's on my mind this morning.


homoe 03-23-2020 05:56 PM

Partisan outrage erupts in the Senate as coronavirus stimulus bill fails for a second time..
 
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It's about time these dems and reps put their dicks back in their pants and stop having these pissing contests at the American workers expense!

homoe 03-23-2020 06:02 PM

And from the Republican's Delicate Genius Susan Collins..
 
Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine,

"We are in the midst of a crisis in our country, a crisis caused by the coronavirus. I cannot believe that the answer to this crisis as we move to address the economic consequences that are so severe for the people of this country — that the answer from our friends on the other side of the aisle is delay, delay, delay. No sense of urgency, no hurry."

REALLY Susan really!!!!

Kätzchen 03-23-2020 08:29 PM

@ Orema
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orema (Post 1263958)
Mario Cuomo gave this keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in 1984. I was living in NYC at the time and was a fan Cuomo. Despite the roar of applause, most Americans weren't interested in what Mario had to say. The "Masters of the Universe" were in charge telling us to be patient because "trickle-down effect" would soon be in action. <snort>

This is what's on my mind this morning.



Thank you so much for finding this video of Mario Cuomo's speech from years ago. I was watching Andrew Cuomo's co-vid 19 briefings via YouTube and a couple days back, a news reporter referenced Mario Cuomo while asking the Governor of New York some vital questions about the on-going status of the crisis NYC and NY state is dealing with daily.

I sure do Appreciate you posting this video. Thanks. :rrose:

C0LLETTE 03-24-2020 12:13 PM

Seems that Dan Patrick, a good Christian, small business owner and Lt Gov of Texas worth 25 million$ ( well, who knows) thinks old people and the vulnerable should be thrown onto a sacrificial funeral pyre to save him and the economy that provided him with 25 Million $.

Dan, Dan...want to contribute to the well-being of America? Buy 25 Million $ worth of ventilators and masks with your hefty nest-egg and send them to a hospital in Texas. And then send your kids to the basement to start sewing protective wear for health-care workers/. AND THEN YOU CAN PONTIFICATE ABOUT WHO IS WORTH SAVING>>>YOU PIECE OF EUGENIC SHIT>

homoe 03-24-2020 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by C0LLETTE (Post 1264022)
Seems that Dan Patrick, a good Christian, small business owner and Lt Gov of Texas worth 25 million$ ( well, who knows) thinks old people and the vulnerable should be thrown onto a sacrificial funeral pyre to save him and the economy that provided him with 25 Million $.

Dan, Dan...want to contribute to the well-being of America? Buy 25 Million $ worth of ventilators and masks with your hefty nest-egg and send them to a hospital in Texas. And then send your kids to the basement to start sewing protective wear for health-care workers/. AND THEN YOU CAN PONTIFICATE ABOUT WHO IS WORTH SAVING>>>YOU PIECE OF EUGENIC SHIT>

Oh he's an idiot, but I think in all fairness he did say he'd be willing to die!
Just in case, let's hope he's working on his will and is leaving a little something to help the fight of this virus OR the countless workers affected by it!

homoe 03-24-2020 01:39 PM

I've got steam coming out of both ears no pun intended!
 
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Well it's politics as usually, why am I surprised!? I educated myself recently on "earmarks" and it was quite a education!

Dems & Reps are equally guilty of this tactic. I couldn't find a listing of all the earmarks both parties are trying to slip into this stimulus bill, but the ones I did come across made my blood boil! They had NOTHING whatsoever to do with additional ways in which to help workers so severally affected by this economy.

C0LLETTE 03-24-2020 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by homoe (Post 1264023)
Oh he's an idiot, but I think in all fairness he did say he'd be willing to die!
Just in case, let's hope he's working on his will and is leaving a little something to help the fight of this virus OR the countless workers affected by it!

Buddhist monks set themselves on fire to show the depth of their beliefs. This prick has zero credibility. Hand him some matches and we'll see how serious he is. F...ing demagogue.

nhplowboi 03-24-2020 03:36 PM

Agreed homoe! What the hell!!! Would you all PLEASE do your jobs and pass a bill that SOLEY addresses this crisis.

CherylNYC 03-25-2020 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by homoe (Post 1264023)
Oh he's an idiot, but I think in all fairness he did say he'd be willing to die!
Just in case, let's hope he's working on his will and is leaving a little something to help the fight of this virus OR the countless workers affected by it!

If he's willing to give up his life in the service of something larger than himself, I encourage him to do something useful and help out with the real warriors at a hospital where real people are really dying.

Moron!

Traditionally marginalized people, (lgbt, POCs, differently abled people), have been considered expendable, but never, EVER in our county's history have elders been considered expendable!

nhplowboi 03-25-2020 04:32 PM

So I had to go to Wal-Mart today because our parrots think they need to eat and believe me they think loudly. The store was pretty empty and decimated of product although I did score the parrot happy meals. While being the designated parrot shopper, I couldn't help but notice THE most elderly customers (seriously)I have ever seen shopping there and we go there ALOT to buy product for the store. I would really hate to think they have bought into this philosophy of supporting the economy, even if they have to die for it.

Stone-Butch 03-26-2020 05:49 AM

Politics
 
Our Prime Ministers wife got the virus and now Prince Charles has the virus. Apparently money and power can't stop this baby.

homoe 03-26-2020 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Stone-Butch (Post 1264118)
Our Prime Ministers wife got the virus and now Prince Charles has the virus. Apparently money and power can't stop this baby.

You're absolutely right!

However I do think those with money and power get tested faster and results known quicker, than those who don't!

C0LLETTE 03-26-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nhplowboi (Post 1264093)
So I had to go to Wal-Mart today because our parrots think they need to eat and believe me they think loudly. The store was pretty empty and decimated of product although I did score the parrot happy meals. While being the designated parrot shopper, I couldn't help but notice THE most elderly customers (seriously)I have ever seen shopping there and we go there ALOT to buy product for the store. I would really hate to think they have bought into this philosophy of supporting the economy, even if they have to die for it.

Maybe the reason is that they have no one else to shop for them. I seriously doubt they are out there to "support the economy". Maybe they have no other choice and the economy isn't supporting them.

Lots of seniors simply don't have smart phones, know how to order online, understand "apps" etc. Or just have NO ONE TO HELP THEM or know how to find someone.

kittygrrl 03-26-2020 09:54 AM

i like the Governor of NY...i think he's an Independant?...He's very conservative and obviously argumentative..but that doesn't bother me because he's honest...just gives it to you cold..i respect that even though i may not like what you're telling me..if only he were President, i'd feel a lot more confident things will eventually get better...

GeorgiaMa'am 03-26-2020 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nhplowboi (Post 1264093)
So I had to go to Wal-Mart today because our parrots think they need to eat and believe me they think loudly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE (Post 1264134)
Maybe the reason is that they have no one else to shop for them.

Okay, so this is how I read this at first. It gave me a good laugh!

Cin 03-26-2020 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by homoe (Post 1264132)
You're absolutely right!

However I do think those with money and power get tested faster and results known quicker, than those who don't!

Not only that, but when it comes down to who lives and who dies, as it has in Italy and Spain, it is the wealthy who will get the ventilator. And even more importantly, money has allowed the wealthy to be better prepared healthwise having had the income to afford good healthcare throughout their lives. They never had to choose between feeding their family or filling their asthma medication. People in lower economic classes are more likely to catch the disease and also more likely to die from it because of health issues. Also the wealthy have the privilege of being better able to isolate successfully, something that is not always easily done for some. And even those in lower economic classes who remain healthy are going to have to deal with the devastating effects of a loss of income and/or healthcare/insurance to a degree that the wealthy will not.

C0LLETTE 03-26-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaMa'am (Post 1264139)
Okay, so this is how I read this at first. It gave me a good laugh!

Once I read your post a second time, I started laughing too!!!!

homoe 03-26-2020 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kittygrrl (Post 1264138)
i like the Governor of NY...i think he's an Independant?...He's very conservative and obviously argumentative..but that doesn't bother me because he's honest...just gives it to you cold..i respect that even though i may not like what you're telling me..if only he were President, i'd feel a lot more confident things will eventually get better...

Yes, I like him too! He doesn't pussyfoot around, tells it like it is, no BS!

Andrew Mark Cuomo is an American politician, author, and lawyer serving as the 56th governor of New York since 2011. A member of the Democratic Party, he was elected to the same position his late father, Mario Cuomo, held for three terms.


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