I don't know if he's just trying to cover his arse, has been living in a cave, or if he's really telling the truth BUT if he is telling the truth is this really something he would want to admit to?

I mean it makes him appear like a complete idiot and dumbass!

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I saw that ~ I don't believe him .

I personally think Trump doesn't give a hoot about any of us. He knew since Dec. 2019, he let the virus grow.. as the stocks plummet they can be bought at very low prices ~ he's been socializing w/ the enemies of the world. Maybe their shopping ? and the hackers that have taken over our SS numbers to get the "stimulus" checks ~ they give and then take it back. ops steal it back ~ I will never believe that it was from a bat !! I said it b4 my OWN belief is that it's chemical war ~ Trump knows this ~ btw mental picture of all Trump's cronnies wearing cheerleader costumes... when he is guilty ~ he brings it up ~ having idiots say he's been on top of everything and and and..... he controls everyone he knows if not your bullied ~ friggen physcopath ~

How about that beautiful Yellow tie that Governor Cuomo wore this morning during his latest press conference on covid 19?

"Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'round an old Oak tree" is what came to mind, while he was teaching the public with down-to-earth language and useful comparisons on the desperate need for hospital's and medical professional needs (ventilators, PPE, the need for volunteers) and his compelling case for everyone to come together and share resources (unity through crisis). His compelling delivery was richly laced with metaphor, to help people grasp the gravity of the situation unfolding in NYC and the entire state of New York.

It appears that Covid-19 will eclipse 9/11 and other social crises previously recorded and experienced in history.

:vigil: :praying: :vigil: :praying: :vigil:

Ontario's modelling of COVID-19
 

The premier, Ford, of Ontario had announced yesterday that he would produce "hard" modelling facts. So, today, I am watching CBC News Network.

Dr. Peter Donnelly, President & CEO of Public Health in Ontario, has finally been able to make some models, which are horrific, absolutely scary, as follows:

Ontario has a population of 14.47 million.
(Donnelly said "every year in Ontario, about 1,350 people die from normal, seasonal flu. In a bad year, 1,500 people die.")

Over course of pandemic (Ontario):

No measures: Full course of pandemic: 100,000 deaths
No measures: 300,000 cases by end of April
No measures: 6,000 deaths by end of April

Current measures: 80,000 cases by end of April
Current measures: 1,600 deaths by end of April

Stricter measures: 12,500 cases by end of April
Stricter measures: 200 deaths end of April

Full course with measures: 3,000 to 15,000 deaths
Full pandemic could last 18 months to 2 years.

I hope I got all the figures right.

Many variables involved (returning snowbirds, etc.)

Am thinking that B.C. has a pop. of @5 million.

Oh my, may god help all those good essential workers.

I am choking up.

Please stay-at-home and do social distancing (in the States, I believe it is called shelter-in-place), please wash your hands, please.

Covid-19...
 

Since this video is now being shared all over social media I thought I would share it here as well.

Take it for what you will. If it resonates great if not then just ignore it.

'It is everywhere already': Fox News hosts amp up the pressure on Trump to give up on coronavirus lockdowns and reopen the economy

A slew of Fox News opinion hosts and anchors are pushing back on public health experts, including the White House coronavirus task force, and urging President Donald Trump to abandon its social distancing policies and reopen the economy. On "Fox and Friends," one of the president's favorite Fox New programs, co-host Brian Kilmeade called the economic damage from the virus "a self-inflicted wound."

IDIOTS!

Donald Trump hates AMERICA ~ he hates all of us. He is destroying this country ~ his so called coronavirus briefing just convinced me yet one more time how much he don't want to help this country ~ someday we will find out how much he had to do with this virus ~ telling ppl over and over again I'm not gonna wear a mask ~ that ignorant bastard ~ putting this country in stay at home across the board is what we need ~ today if there is no virus tomorrow in those states could be overwhelmed. yes this is AMERICA and we do have freedom ~ freedom to think and act intelligently << lord help me ~ I can't stand him.

I'm still isolating except for reporting to work. Daughter is doing the same. They are starting to transport patients from NYC up to our hospitals and that's making some people upset. Maybe it will be enough to get them to think harder about staying home?


Domestic violence is really kicking up with this shelter in place. Folks can still buy guns and booze. It's not a good combination. My phone is ringing off the hook all day long and there is just no place left that has bed space.


What do we think about doing something like going for a bike ride alone? I want to ride my bike but don't know how socially responsible that is? It's not like I'd be interacting with anyone...

I recieved this today and thought it was worth a share.

Myth: This doesn’t really affect me because I’m young and healthy.
Fact: People of all ages can get and spread COVID-19. Older people and people with pre-existing medical conditions (such as asthma, diabetes, or heart disease) appear to be more at risk for getting very sick from the virus. For your own health and the health of your community, you need to stay home away from people who don’t live in your house, wash your hands, and try not to touch your face.

Myth: You need a pass to travel to your essential job in Washington.
Fact: Essential workers are permitted to travel to and from work without a special permit. You can see the list for WA as of 4/4/20 at the following link https://www.governor.wa.gov/sites/de...ce=govdelivery
Prepare to be patient because it's slow to load.

Myth: I should probably stock up on some more groceries.
Fact: There has been no disruption to the supply chain that delivers goods. If we all purchase what we need without hoarding, there will be enough for everyone. Reduce waste and help your neighbors by buying just what you need. And remember! You can increase your social distancing while grocery shopping by using a grocery delivery or pick-up service. And you can increase social connection by offering to pick up a bag of groceries for a friend or neighbor.

Myth: These wipes are flushable.
Fact: No, they are not, even if they are labeled that way. “Flushable” wipes, facial tissues, and paper towels were not designed to break down the same way as toilet paper, and they can cause blockages in treatment plants, plumbing, and septic systems. If you are out of toilet paper, use something else and then throw it in the trash. Please do not flush anything besides toilet paper and what came out of you.

Myth: Here’s a top secret way to protect yourself from COVID-19 that doctors don’t want you to know about!
Fact: Don’t believe everything you see on the internet. The best way to keep yourself and others from getting COVID-19 is to stay home as much as possible, wash your hands frequently, and not touch your face. There is nothing you can eat, bathe in, or inhale that will protect you from this virus. And some of the suggested “preventatives” on social media are downright dangerous. There is quite a bit of research going on into a vaccine or medications that may help, so hopefully there will be good news able to be shared soon but until then, just scroll past anything that sounds too good to be true.

Myth: The government called to ask for my private information.
Fact: That was not the government. The federal stimulus package included about $1,200 per person. This money has not been distributed yet, but some scammers are trying to take advantage of people. Remember—the government will not ask you to pay anything up front to get this money. No fees. No charges. No nothing. The government will not call to ask for your Social Security, bank account, or credit card numbers. Anyone who does is a scammer.

Myth: We’re going back to normal after this.
Fact: Eventually we will leave our homes again, see our friends, and go to restaurants and to work. But this is a life-changing experience. We won’t be “normal” again. Maybe we’ll hug our people tighter, maybe we’ll savor our time together more. Maybe we’ll help to keep the air clean by working at home more often. Maybe we’ll decide it’s important for everyone to be able to get health care when they need it. Maybe we’ll go for more walks. We will leave our houses again, but it won’t feel normal.

Myth: There’s nothing fun to do.
Fact: What? It’s Census Day! The census will determine how many congressional representatives each state gets. Census results have an impact on planning and funding for health clinics and highways, fire departments and disaster response, education programs such as Head Start and college tuition assistance, and so much more. It takes less than 10 minutes to fill in – complete the survey :)

Practice compassion. Help fight the most damaging myth of all—that Asian Americans are somehow more at risk of having or spreading COVID-19. The US now has more cases of COVID-19 than any other country, including China. We are all in this together.
Stay home and stay healthy!

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((((( NH & bev ))))) stay safe Can u put a sign on the window NO mask NO entry add a buzz in door feature on your lock to the door ? w/ a cheap plastic table cloth at the discount stores u can do a disposable face mask at the door ppl can use and toss in trash . cash is another story ~ I would be too scared to handle cash . just don't forget to have a mask ~ those cheap table cloth masks can be used over a better mask for yourself. its a V - cut w. right & left ties around the back of your head. all one piece. keep us posted what u decided to do . GOOD LUCK !!

OMG OMG OMG todays WH coronavirus briefing was hideous! TRUMP is such an ass.. I feel so bad for the scientists and doctors that have to deal with his lack of knowledge ~ I wish I knew the laws if he could be taken out of office … he needs to go. ~

Ocean? I thought I would leave a link for you tonight. This whole thing with 45 and his cronies making it nearly impossible for any headway made on getting the supplies that are needed? What a joke, sick joke, to subject and make states compete for supplies desperately needed to save the lives of people affected by Covid-19.

Anyway... I came across a news website that is covering Covid-19 and other political issues that not only mass media covers, but they also cover issues that don't get much coverage.

If you or other members here would like to supplement your reading materials with thought provoking news coverage, then you might want to check out this website:

TAP: The American Propect. Ideas, Politics and Power.

I find their perspective very helpful. :tea:

ty Katzchen ~ interesting reading :)

Well what else would we expect from a idiot that says he didn't know asymptomatic people could spread the coronavirus....:seeingstars:

I have a friend sending us each a reusable mask to go out in. I'm relieved. We only had bandanas to cover our faces when we went out Friday. I felt so exposed to this pandemic with my bandit mask. We have to go out again this coming week. I did my usual monthly grocery order for delivery but they are now almost 2 weeks out. So an order placed on the 3rd will be delivered the 16th. I need to get things to get me through until then. Hopefully we get the masks by about Friday or so. I don't want to go to the grocery store without one. Or the pharmacy for that matter. I hope the mask helps me not to freak out too badly about catching this thing. Friday when we got home, I was a mess. While out I bought some really expensive beer (accidentally). So I cracked one and tried to chill. I mean I washed up and sterilized everything last thing. We are both "at risk" individuals. And we stay in as much as possible. But We aren't elite enough to just buy 3 months worth of groceries and supplies at a pop. I'm convinced the Republicans are trying to exterminate the poor. Kill of those on the fixed incomes so that money can be used to pad their wallets and portfolios even more. It's disgusting. Being "sold out" by your own government for the all mighty dollar. Now I consider myself pretty open minded, but......how does one wrap their head around making states compete in a bidding war for medical supplies and PPE during a pandemic? Why are we taking supplies meant for other countries? I mean dirty pool is not how this should be played. This is Global. I don't think any one country by itself is going to solve this. I think we all need to put our best people on it and do this as a global team. But......how is the World going to come together when we can't even get our whole country to come together? I felt more US unity during 9/11 than I'm feeling now. Is it going to take the numbers skyrocketing before more people put down the kool aid and wake up?

I have heard different takes on this. Some say it's impossible to maintain 6 feet of social distancing on a bike. I think I've heard more people say they thought it was okay, though. I know in some locations you can't go more than a certain distance from your home. Personally, it seems like it would be fine.

No worries. Some of these Governors don't use the brain they were born with!

So far I have not been too worried, but this coming week I need to go and have my INR level read because of being on a blood thinner. And I wouldn't be worried even about this EXCEPT a pharmacy ,with a high level of traffic, is located in the same area....:worried:

http://petslady.com/sites/default/fi...-bunnies-1.jpg

In Switzerland they are now making the chocolate Easter bunnies with little sugar masks. :cheesy:

did anyone read about the Bronx zoo has a 4 yr old lion w/ coronavirus?

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I stand corrected ~ Dr. Fauci said today TRUMP and his administration was informed early 2017 about this virus.

I just heard about it on the BBC World News. "A tiger at a zoo in New York has tested positive for COVID-19. The four-year-old female named Nadia is thought to have contracted the virus from a keeper at Bronx Zoo who didn't have any symptoms. Several big cats there have recently developed a dry cough, including three other tigers and three African lions. Nadia is thought to be the first animal to test positive for the corona virus in the U.S."

So is someone working on a vaccine or a cure for cats? Probably not. What will we do if domestic cats can catch COVID-19? The possibilities are horrible. :bigcry: <freaking out>

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Georgia , I just got chills up my spine on the thought of domestic animals coming down w/ this virus ~ I honestly don't think my heart can take losing our animals like this ~ I have a strong heart but this would bring me to my knees.

It would kill me.

All these different stories make me wonder.

First they say no masks then masks but n95 masks then homemade ones are fine.

Smacks forehead...make up your mind.

Other conflicting stories in the media that don't add up.

Let's face it we will never know the real truth about anything because every story gets twisted to suit its audience.

Smh

A few weeks ago I got a newsletter from PetPlan that said there was no evidence that domestic animals can catch or spread C19. Relief! Then, I googled and there's some "read between the lines" needed with the CDC's position on the subject.

On the one hand, they say there's no evidence that pets can catch it. On the other hand, they say if your sick, stay away from your pets. The latter seems the most logical course of action since both cats and dogs can suffer from upper respiratory illnesses. Probably the best course of action to keep our pets safe is to not catch it ourselves. :blink:

CDC link...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...g/animals.html

This afternoon when I was watching our county health officer give a daily update the subject came up. She indicated that she had just seen a report yesterday about the possibility of domestic and feral cats getting a coronavirus, the findings are preliminary but they are now advising us that if you are symptomatic and need to isolate from your family you also stay away from pets.

I just did a quick search for “cats with coronavirus“ and there is scant information and I don’t think anyone knows which variety of coronavirus may or may not be showing up. I think it’s a good idea for us to keep an eye out for emerging information and share it here when more is known.

This would be truly horrible so let’s not jump the gun. We do need to find out given that it jumped from animal to human is it preposterous to think that it couldn’t jump back?

Maybe that’s because we are being systematically lied to.

N95 masks have been a good idea for everyone from the get go. Viruses are half the size of bacteria so medical filtering should be the standard. There was no supply to be had and medically advocating for something unavailable would cause public panic.

When it became clear that community spread is such that it is highly likely that fine suspended aerosols would be a contributing cause something had to be recommended. A cloth covering cannot hurt (If properly used and not just causing excess face touching) and may do some small percentage of good. If nothing else it will be a good visual cue so all the idiots out there who think they can pretend this is not actually happening will wake up.

We are being given a pacifier until supplies can be restored.

Disclaimer: This is just my opinion.

Covid-19
 

I came across this article which I'm sure you probably already know about but just in case you didn't I thought I would share it with you....

White House COVID-19 Coordinator: Don’t Go To Grocery Store Or Pharmacy Unless Essential

https://deadline.com/2020/04/white-h...al-1202900889/

This makes me even more apprehensive about my up coming appointment on Tuesday....

Animals
 

In the past century, people have been travelling now all over the world, and they are in contact with all sorts of things - bugs, viruses - and then they go home.

Swine flu, bird flu, even going back to the bubonic plague (rats) idk...

I am not surprised that the poor tiger has been tested positive for this awful and deadly virus.

Last month, when I first read of Wuhan online (!), while sitting on a bench and people-watching outside, I saw someone walking with a very friendly looking dog [a kind of ... doodle dog :) ], my first instinct was to motion the woman to come over so I could pet her dog, and THEN, and before I could motion to her, I had a instantaneous mind/heart reflection: "NO" !

For me, this was a stop-and-whoa flash moment, since I really am a dog person; I really love dogs, all dogs. Even though I don't own a dog, I could have gotten one, since we are allowed to have pets in our building. And, in the past, I smile at the fact that I have usually managed to pet some dog or other several times a week, even to the point of carrying some Dog Bone biscuits in my safari vest pocket for my favourite dog (and cute owner, who would always hug me).

I think and feel that all these viruses originally came from our contact with some very strange animals (bats, and other strange species), and they have been harmless to and in such animals, but because of their contact with us humans, they have mutated into what we are stuck with now. And if they have mutated in such a way, they can certainly mutate back and go to our beloved animals - whether pets or domestic animals in general. Even, I think, to those beautiful gorillas in the wild. I would - if I had a pet - be very careful about who touched my pet, and going about touching others' pets.

There are quite a few people walking their dogs in my area, and I now (and for the past month) have given both owner and pet a wide berth. :(

Obviously, I am not an expert, but it appears to me that we are not being told the whole story.

I am up early, so I can catch Governor Cuomo's press conference on CBSN.

The East Coast is three hours ahead of Pacific Coast time, so I just watch his press conferences because I think he gives us the best picture of what is happening and the incredibly hard choices that Team Cuomo is making as each day goes by.