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JustJo 01-14-2012 09:45 AM

Good morning healthies :)

My scale hasn't budged today, and I'm not worried about it. I know what I need to add in now is more movement, and I took a big step towards that yesterday with joining Curves. The other half of the plan is to get on my Mobia the alternate 3 days....so it'll be Curves M, W and F....Mobia T, Th and Sat....and take Sunday off. I have some wonderful moral support....personally and with all of you in the thread....and I know I can do this.

Rockin...when I was under a lot of stress, my sciatica went absolutely insane...so much that I could barely walk or get up out of a chair. I went to a physical therapist, who did me a world of good. He gave me some wonderful stretches to do. He also said that some people with sciatica issues need to stretch one way....and others need to do the opposite.....so I hesitate to tell you what I was doing in case you're the opposite! It would be great if you could get in to see a physical therapist.

But....just for me....I was doing the cobra (yoga style) stretch....laying on the floor face down, palms next to chest, and stretch up and back to arch. He said others need to do the opposite....laying on their back, putting leg over the other so that right ankle sits on left knee and round up with left hand (or elbow) towards the knee....then reverse.

I wish you luck with this....sciatica hurts like heck!

Miss Scarlett 01-14-2012 09:51 AM

JustJo...i hate it when the scale seems to freeze Here's yet another quote from my doctor:

"Weigh yourself daily, if you wish. Notice patterns of food that cause weight gain the next day. Please realize that there can be fluctuations due to menstrual cycles, constipation, bloating and dehydration.

Measure your biceps, waist, thighs and calves weekly. Measure the same spot each time in order to ensure accuracy. If your weight loss hits a plateau, you may be building muscle and burning fat. You'll see it when you lose inches."

Medusa 01-14-2012 11:26 AM

Wanted to drop one of my favorites here for folks who are interested.

It's been cold and sometimes a salad or turkey sandwich just doesn't cut it when you need to warm up or are craving comfort food. I devised a hearty, cheesy dish that really helps me stay on track with my WW points but satisfies the beast.

I added the WW points for anyone on the WW program.

Hearty chicken pasta

Ingredients:
1 cup cooked whole wheat pasta = 4 points
2 - 3 wedges of Laughing Cow light cheeses (I do a mixture of garlic & herb and sundried tomato & basil) = 2 - 3 points depending on how many you use
baked boneless/skinless chicken breast = 4 point portion
splash of fat free chicken broth = 1 point

This entire meal is about 11 points and is a huge portion. You could probably eat half with a salad and save the rest for later. I have also added steamed brocolli and asparagus to this with a squeeze of lemon and it is reallllllly good.

This satisfies my fetuccine alfredo craving once in a while :)

I almost typed "crazing" above instead of "craving" and that has sparred another thought about getting crazed cravings but I'll hit that one in another post. :)

Rockinonahigh 01-14-2012 01:27 PM

Jo
 
I found some old stretching exersises I did in pt before and used some of them to releive the pain,I just need to do them 4 times a day,what helps me the most is massage terapy along with pt.My prob is it will be till march 3,2012 before I can se the doc at LSU about this...I know this is a long wait for an appointment but the er said it wasnt life threatning...wich is a matter of opinion when u r going thrue a sciatia attack.
As for the scale I have just desided to visit the thing twice a month,to depressing to weigh daily.

starryeyes 01-14-2012 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 504311)
Wanted to drop one of my favorites here for folks who are interested.

It's been cold and sometimes a salad or turkey sandwich just doesn't cut it when you need to warm up or are craving comfort food. I devised a hearty, cheesy dish that really helps me stay on track with my WW points but satisfies the beast.

I added the WW points for anyone on the WW program.

Hearty chicken pasta

Ingredients:
1 cup cooked whole wheat pasta = 4 points
2 - 3 wedges of Laughing Cow light cheeses (I do a mixture of garlic & herb and sundried tomato & basil) = 2 - 3 points depending on how many you use
baked boneless/skinless chicken breast = 4 point portion
splash of fat free chicken broth = 1 point

This entire meal is about 11 points and is a huge portion. You could probably eat half with a salad and save the rest for later. I have also added steamed brocolli and asparagus to this with a squeeze of lemon and it is reallllllly good.

This satisfies my fetuccine alfredo craving once in a while :)

I almost typed "crazing" above instead of "craving" and that has sparred another thought about getting crazed cravings but I'll hit that one in another post. :)

Sounds amazing. I'm gonna cook it this weekend. Thanks for sharing!

Medusa 01-14-2012 05:35 PM

Songs I've added to my workout mix:

Ni**as in Paris - JAY Z and Kanye West
We Found Love - Rihanna
How to Love - Lil Wayne (this is usually my cool-down song)

Zimmeh 01-14-2012 05:39 PM

Good Evening Everyone,

Medusa thank you for the recipe! I'm gonna make it tomorrow for dinner, since I will be working the overnight shift again!

Since I'm working overnight shifts this weekend, I am bringing a lot of healthy food with me!

Meals for today:

Breakfast;
Toast with butter and a 8oz glass of soymilk

Lunch;
Weight Watchers Santa Fe style rice & beans tv dinner
12 oz's of coffee total with two teaspoons of creamer -had to wake up-

Dinner;
Chili
Salad with: honey almond slices, pepper jack cheese and Spanish olives

Snacks;
One pack of grits with olive oil based butter
Kind bar
One Sargento low fat string cheese
Hot tea!

Have a good night,

Zimmeh

Zimmeh 01-14-2012 05:43 PM

I've added:

Adele's: Set Fire To The Rain; Rolling In The Deep; Rumour Has It and Someone Like You
Chevelle's: Face To The Floor and to help me relax,
Elvis Presley's: Amazing Grace
Several bluegrass songs from the movie, "Winters Bone".

Zimmeh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 504473)
Songs I've added to my workout mix:

Ni**as in Paris - JAY Z and Kanye West
We Found Love - Rihanna
How to Love - Lil Wayne (this is usually my cool-down song)


Zimmeh 01-14-2012 06:36 PM

I also added:

Vince Gill's, "Go Rest High On That Mountain-featuring: Ricki Skaggs and Patti Loveless"

Reba's, "Fancy" and "The Night the Lights Went Out In Georgia"

And

Allison Krause and Union Station's, "When You Say Nothing At All".

Zimmeh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zimmeh (Post 504479)
I've added:

Adele's: Set Fire To The Rain; Rolling In The Deep; Rumour Has It and Someone Like You
Chevelle's: Face To The Floor and to help me relax,
Elvis Presley's: Amazing Grace
Several bluegrass songs from the movie, "Winters Bone".

Zimmeh


canmarielan 01-14-2012 09:29 PM

A closer look at my diet
 
Well I see y'all posting what y'all eat each day and it made me want to do it, too! I'm a copy-cat, you see :)

Click here to see A Day in the Life....

One day at a time healthies!!! See y'all tomorrow!

-Red-Flag- 01-15-2012 09:15 AM

Well, I just did my second weigh in ...I am proud to say, I am down a total of 14.2 pounds. :)

I am feeling pretty good about it too..

Again, I could not be doing it with my love, my rock ... Starryeyes, thanks babe. -kiss-

And everyone here, you all are in inspiration...

Good luck with your week and make good choices !!

JustJo 01-15-2012 09:33 AM

Hi healthies :)

Sticking to the plan....got on the Mobia yesterday and had a momentary frustration with myself that my limit is back to what it was at the beginning.

But...focus on the important part....I did it, I will continue to do it, and it will get better.

Back to Curves on Monday (a little later in the day since I have a fasting blood sugar test in late morning and can't exercise before that due to the diabetes)...looking for progress, not perfection. :rrose:

Medusa 01-15-2012 10:01 AM

Wow. The changes I made this week really paid off! Just did my weekly weigh-in this week and had a loss of 7 pounds!!

Medusa 01-15-2012 10:03 AM

Edited to add: I'm back in the 280's for the first time in probably 5 years!!

starryeyes 01-15-2012 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Red-Flag- (Post 504853)
Well, I just did my second weigh in ...I am proud to say, I am down a total of 14.2 pounds. :)

I am feeling pretty good about it too..

Again, I could not be doing it with my love, my rock ... Starryeyes, thanks babe. -kiss-

And everyone here, you all are in inspiration...

Good luck with your week and make good choices !!

You are rockin it babe! Next week you will hit your 5%!! How awesome is that!! You are doing so great! I'm glad we are doing to together.

Now time for my weigh in *scary music plays*

smile

starryeyes 01-15-2012 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 504879)
Wow. The changes I made this week really paid off! Just did my weekly weigh-in this week and had a loss of 7 pounds!!

That is so amazing!!!! Congratulations!! You are an inspiration. Keep up the amazing work.

Hugs!

Cowboi 01-15-2012 10:09 AM

Just got home from the Gym.
Back, biceps, and cardio done!

I hope this week is better than last week.
I seem to be in a funk for some reason.

Y'all keep up the good work!!!
Have a fantastic day!!!

Miss Scarlett 01-15-2012 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Scarlett (Post 504209)

Goal protein: 60-00 grams daily. No protein bars/shakes unless they have only 1-2 ingredients.

Correction, this should read 60-100 grams daily


Zimmeh 01-15-2012 11:22 AM

Good Morning Everyone,

Congrats Medusa on your weight loss :) By the time I see you in Little Rock, none of us will recognize you!

Jo Jo, you can do this and have fun at Curves!

I just woke up after getting home at 7am this morning and I'm going to have an egg burrito with medium salsa and a sprinkle of cheese with soymilk for lunch.

Dinner:

Baked chicken with garlic salt and Mexican chile powder
Veggies

Snacks:

Clementine
String cheese
Greek yogurt for work tonight

Hugs and have a good day,

Zimmeh

starryeyes 01-15-2012 11:40 AM

I'm down 3 lbs this morning... ya! Only sucky thing is that my PP values when down too... haha!

This morning I had 2 eggs, 3oz of turkey and 1oz of fat free mozzerella cheese for breakfast. (8pp)

I am letting my phone get a little charge, and then I am taking my doggie out for a nice long walk.

For lunch, I might do fish and veggies, or chicken. I need to go to the store and stock up, as I don't have many options. :( not enough options leads to bad choices... I know this!

Dinner.. I am going to try Medusa's pasta recipe!

Happy Sunday!!

:-)

Miss Scarlett 01-16-2012 10:07 AM

Salad recipes from my doc:

Rich Ranch
Skim milk
Hidden Valley Ranch powder
fat-free sour cream or fat-free plain Greek yogurt

Add powder to sour cream or yogurt. Taste intermittently until enough ranch powder is added. Once mixed thin consistency by stirring in milk until it is dressing.

Vinaigrette
Exra Virgin Olive Oil
Balsamic or rice wine vinegar
Dijon mustard

Combine all ingredients in blender and blend (or in bowl and whisk until blended) When experimenting consider adding dry dill, rosemary or oregano.

Olive Oil and Lemon/Lime
Extra Virgin Olive Oil
One lemon or lime

Drizzle oil on salad. Squeeze either lemon or lime on salad.

Salsa
Use your favourite salsa as salad dressing.

Salad
Field greens or other mixed greens (dark greens are better for you).
grilled chicken or
seared Ahi Tuna or other grilled fish or
grilled lean steak

Toss greens with dressing. Add meat.

Goat Cheese, Sliced Pear and Crunchy Walnut Salad
4 cups chopped Romaine
2 ounces goat cheese
4 TBSP chopped walnuts
1 sliced pear
Vinaigrette dressing (recipe above)

Toss lettuce with 2 TBSP dressing, then top with pear, walnuts and goat cheese.

Comfort Food Chicken Salad
LARGE ingredients:
6 oz cooked chicken breast (may be canned or baked the night before or rotisserie)
2 TBSP chopped green pepper
2 Tbsp chopped red bell pepper
2 TBSP chopped onion
1 TBSP chopped parsley
1 cup dark lettuce
1/2 cup chopped tomatoes

SMALL ingredients:
1/2 cup fat-free plain Greek yogurt
1/4 tsp black pepper
2 tsp lemon juice
1/8 tsp caraway seeds
pinch cumin
pinch coriander
pinch salt

Combine LARGE ingredients in salad bowl.
Combine SMALL ingredients and mix well.
Use the SMALL ingredients as a topping for LARGE ingredients.
Chill or serve immediately.

Miss Scarlett 01-16-2012 10:21 AM

Breakfast ideas from my doc:

Fresh Veggie Omelet with Egg Beaters

Chose 2-5 favourite vegetables: green pepper, onions, mushrooms, tomatoes, spinach.
Choose a favourite spice: salsa, pepper & sea salt, chives, basil, rosemary, garlic
Choose: Benecol spread or Smary Balance spray

Over medium-low heat "sweat" green peppers and/or onions for 5 minutes. Add mushrooms and cook an additional 3 minutes, stirring frequently. Stir in garlic and/or spinach for 2 more minutes. Increase to medium-high heat and then add egg whites (or Egg Beaters). Use heat-resistent spatula to loosen egg along edges of pan. Draw half of solidified eggs to mid-part of pan, add dry spice. Once top is no longer wet, fold entirety of eggs in halp, making omelet. Sprinkle with salt and pepper if desired. Garnish with salsa if desired.

TimeSavers Egg Bake (for people who have no time)

Once weekly, prepare all of your breakfasts for one week.
Begin with a 6-well muffin pan. Heat oven to 400 degrees.
Prepare vegetables as above and place equal portions in each of the cups of the muffin pan. Pour desired amount of egg whites (or Egg Beaters) into each well and then beak until solid throughout.
The cooktime will depend on how thick you have decided to make the omelettes. Store in fridge and reheat in microwave each day before running out the door.

Creamy Yogurt, Crunchy Nuts & Fruit (for people in a hurry)

Combine small container of fat-free plain Greek yogurt with your favourite fruit (blueberries, strawberries, chopped peaches, etc). Munch on a handful or your favourite seeds or nuts...or combine with the yogurt and fruit. Examples: sunflower seeds, sesame seeds, pumpkin seeds, hazelnuts, walnuts, almonds, cashews. (Do not choose peanuts or soy nuts because they're not really nuts.)

Miss Scarlett 01-16-2012 10:25 AM

More Breakfast ideas from my doc:

Cottage Cheese & Orange/Mandarin/Tangerine

Combine slices of one orange/mandarin/tangerine with 1-2 cups of fat-free cottage cheese.

Turkey Bacon with Grapefruit

1/2 - 1 grapefruit and 2 slices of turkey bacon

2 Hardboiled Eggs & an Apple (for people who really have no time)

Throw away one of the yolks.

PinkieLee 01-16-2012 10:27 AM

Thank you Miss Scarlett for those awesome recipes for salads and/or dressings! Whenever I have left over chicken fajita meat, I get a bag of mixed salad greens, add the fajita meat & add salsa... voila taco salad!

When I go to Subway and order a salad, I usually just have them do a splash of the oil & vinegar with pepper... it never needs the extra calories from the salad dressing!

I make a pretty tasty chicken salad (if I don't say so myself ;)
I boil 1 chicken breast and then shred
Dice up an apple
a handful of pecan pieces
and add enough mayo to mix it all together (the olive oil mayo with 1/2 the calories tastes the best but I have used the lite Miracle Whip)

It makes enough for a few sandwiches for lunches for a couple days. I usually eat it on deli thin sandwich round, with a handful of unsalted saltine crackers or as a wrap with romaine lettuce.

Miss Scarlett 01-16-2012 10:39 AM

You're welcome PinkieLee. i like your chicken salad recipe too. i'll have to try it but with fat-free Greek yogurt or sour cream instead of mayonnaise.

One thing about my doc. He created these recipes and has actually eaten this stuff himself. He has his own weight struggles and practices what he preaches. Following the plan he developed (primarily diet and exercise) he lost weight and kept it off. He's constantly researching and studying.

i love this man. He saved my life.

Miss Scarlett 01-16-2012 11:16 AM

Top 5 Jack LaLanne quotes:

1) Your waistline is your lifeline. (According to my doc this is medically true.)
2) If man makes it, don’t eat it.
3) People don’t die of old age, they die of inactivity.
4) The food you eat today is walking and talking tomorrow.
5) You eat everyday, you sleep everyday, and your body was made to exercise everyday.

princessbelle 01-16-2012 11:27 AM

Monday morning weigh in!!!!!

I lost 3.2 pounds last week. It is so wonderful to weigh and see that weight going down down down. However, slowly, still it is such a motivator!!!!!

SUCCESS!!!!!!!

Today it is back to exercising and planning the weeks food.

We are thinking this soup idea we started a couple of weeks ago is really paying off. Homemade and full of veggies and tomato sauce and oh so yummy. It is now a weekly menu item that lasts a couple of days for the quicky meal.

Tonight is baked chicken, green beans and a sweet potato!!!!


Yum!!!!!

princessbelle 01-16-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by princessbelle (Post 505622)
Monday morning weigh in!!!!!

I lost 3.2 pounds last week. It is so wonderful to weigh and see that weight going down down down. However, slowly, still it is such a motivator!!!!!

SUCCESS!!!!!!!

Today it is back to exercising and planning the weeks food.

We are thinking this soup idea we started a couple of weeks ago is really paying off. Homemade and full of veggies and tomato sauce and oh so yummy. It is now a weekly menu item that lasts a couple of days for the quicky meal.

Tonight is baked chicken, green beans and a sweet potato!!!!


Yum!!!!!

OH and about the soup. One more thing. I've noticed, at least for us, since we have that in the fridge, already made and easy to just heat up quickly, it has helped that urge to run by a fast food place on the way home or order pizza.

Sometimes, easy is the key.


Medusa 01-16-2012 11:51 AM

I am trying to do some time-saving stuff for my food this week so this weekend I baked up 4 HUGE sweet potatoes and dug out the innards and slapped them in a huge bowl.
I have enough mashed sweet potatoes for all week and can use them a 1/2 cup or a cup at a time for side dishes on meals.

Sweet potatoes are one of the healthiest veggies you can eat from what I've read. They are packed with fiber and tons of vitamins and have the lowest glycemic index of all of the root vegetables.

I like mine mashed or baked with a sprinkle of cinammon (no sugar or honey necessary since these are naturally sweet). If you are on WW, an entire cup of mashed sweet potato (with no sugar, butter, or other stuff) has only 5 points. That's a LOt of potato so I usually do 1/2 cup with dinner or lunch.

I've even had a 1/2c with cinammon for breakfast with a piece of turkey bacon. YUMMY.

Miss Scarlett 01-16-2012 12:05 PM

My personal favourite breakfast or light meal is to take a small container of fat-free plain Greek yogurt, mix in a chopped orange/mandarin/tangerine, 1/4 cup sliced almonds and 1 tablespoon of unsweetened coconut.

Having this right now for my breakfast/lunch...Mmmmmmmm!!!!

Medusa 01-16-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by princessbelle (Post 505633)
OH and about the soup. One more thing. I've noticed, at least for us, since we have that in the fridge, already made and easy to just heat up quickly, it has helped that urge to run by a fast food place on the way home or order pizza.

Sometimes, easy is the key.



Yes Ma'am to this!

This has been one of my biggest hurdles over the last year. Getting home late at night, sometimes after a 12 hour day, and trying to figure out what to eat usually meant I was ordering something or eating crap in a box (which often equated to super unhealthy and loaded with salt and also not very satisfying).

Some of my go-to dishes when I'm tired and don't want to think about it:

Salads - takes literally 6 minutes to wash and chop veggies and if you keep grilled chicken in the fridge, this can really add to it

Soup or chilli - easy and keeps all week

Wraps or sandwiches - I usually keep shaved cajun turkey or grilled chicken at all times. These can go on a sandwich thin or in a spinach wrap with lettuce, onion, peppers, etc. for a quick wrap. I love to add 1 wedge of Laughing Cow cheese to really make it yummy

Breakfast for dinner - I can do a really good omelet with egg beaters and lots of spinach, peppers, mushrooms, and even fat free cheese in just a few minutes and it usually fills me up to the top!

Another thing that is super easy is when you are making coffee in the morning, grab some chicken breasts or tenderloins and throw them in a shallow dish with some light italian dressing, worcestershire sauce, liquid smoke, garlic, and whatever else you like and let it marinate until you get home. As soon as you get home, pop them in the oven at 350 for about 40 minutes (depending on size of chicken) and by the time you get your clothes off, pets walked, and extras done, dinner is ready. Serve with steamed veggies (the steamer bags take like 4 minutes and are WELL worth it!)

JustJo 01-16-2012 12:22 PM

Thank you June...and that pisses me off too.

Deciding to be healthy and lose weight isn't an effort to put anyone else down...it's an effort to have a longer, healthier (and hopefully happier as a result) life.

I hate sizist, "fat is ugly" messaging as much as anyone. I am, and always will be, on the larger size. It's just how I'm built. As a diabetic, with a history of heart disease....losing weight and getting healthy is to save my own life, to live to see my son grow up, to maybe (if I'm lucky enough) be able to snuggle with my grandbabies.

If someone has an issue with that...screw 'em.

Zimmeh 01-16-2012 12:29 PM

Tell her, i said congratulations from me!

I am sorry someone has done this! It actually embarasses me as a person, who has lost 60lbs and I have managed to keep about 50lbs off since 2007. No kne should be made to feel this way and it can be detrimental to her.

I started my journey after my loosing my dad to heart and respiratory failure.

Hugs,

Zimmeh

Quote:

Originally Posted by June (Post 505661)
I'm kind of fired up this morning.

I was emailing with a friend (she can out herself here, or not. Won't be hard to figure out who it is)

And she is actually getting HATE mail shaming her for her "betrayal" of the "Fat Community" because she decided she didn't want to end up with Diabetes and wanted to live longer.

Who the fuck is she betraying? The Major drug companies who make Lipitor and Insulin?

She's not betraying me, a woman of size.

She's not betraying anyone, and if we feel shame because she has the gumption to get up and move and eat healthier foods, that's our problem, not hers.

She's lost over a hundred pounds on her own. No surgery, no magic pill. Hard work -- Not so she can "get laid" SO SHE CAN LIVE LONGER!

Not only should we be encouraging and congratulating her, we should be looking at her as a role model. Not to be thin, to be healthy. She knew at 400lb+, she was NOT healthy.

I cannot believe that people would send her hate mail. In fact, it enrages me.

And no, I am not a self-loathing fat person. I am a 50 year old woman who feels pretty good about herself most days. But I also know that I am NOT as healthy as I could be and I do NOT move as much as I should. I am not diabetic, I do not have high blood pressure, and I don't want to get it, even though there are all kinds of pills out there to combat it.

I have started walking and doing Yoga again, because, this woman, my friend, woke me the fuck up and made me look at my own lifestyle in a different way.

I don't even own a scale. I don't care what the scale says, I care that I don't get up in the morning with stiffness, that I can walk twelve blocks uphill and not stop, that my body stays flexible as I age.

I have said this before, I do believe in size acceptance. I do not believe in Health At Any Size. I do not think it is healthy when someone cannot walk more than 20 feet without resting because they are out of breath. I do think it's possible that people who are obese by the Medical standards are healthy because they move their body and eat well, even if it's more.

I have a really great yoga dvd done by a woman of size that I will send to the first person who PM's me (give me your address). Because of the way I am, I need to actually go to the classes and wasn't so good at following DVD directions. I am a visual learner :)

I think I am done ranting now. For the moment.


princessbelle 01-16-2012 12:31 PM

I agree to the size thing so much!!!!

My goal for loosing weight is of course to live longer. My mother is a diabetic. So, i know i can get it easily.

And more than that, being a nurse, i have to maneuver patients constantly. I have to bend and lift and get in the floor. It would be nice, again, to be able to hop up without embarrassing myself and get up slowly due to this extra weight. I want to be able to hop up steps carting all the medical bags and supplies i have to carry and not stop because i'm out of breath or tired.

Like many of you, my weight loss goals are not about how i will look. It is about how i will feel and move.

A way better reason.

People out there can be jerks no matter what you try and do. Especially if you are trying to make yourself a stronger person. Just shows their jealousy coming through. Sad really.

Miss Scarlett 01-16-2012 12:31 PM

Great post June...hate mail for wanting to lose weight? Betraying the Fat Community? Are you serious? That's crazy!

my decision to lose weight had to do with my health. Mom died from Pancreatic Cancer. She had Type II Diabetes as do Dad and my big brother. i wanted to avoid these things. So far i've dodged the Type II bullet.

A year or so ago i asked my weight loss doc what he set for my goal weight and his response was that his goal for his patients was not a number on a scale rather it was good health.

my journey began in October 2008 at 342.5 lbs. i lost 130, relapsed, lost what i regained, relapsed again, lost what i regained, relapsed yet again and am back on track. (i've managed to keep off 100 of the 130)

If this means i too am betraying the Fat Community so be it...this is for ME. They don't have to live in my body, I DO!!!

Zimmeh 01-16-2012 12:34 PM

Ditto! I was having problems breathing and my heart hurt when I dud to much. If this person wants to chat with me, June can send them in my direction.

Zimmeh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Scarlett (Post 505672)
Great post June...hate mail for wanting to lose weight? Betraying the Fat Community? Are you serious? That's crazy!

my decision to lose weight had to do with my health. Mom died from Pancreatic Cancer. She had Type II Diabetes as do Dad and my big brother. i wanted to avoid these things. So far i've dodged the Type II bullet.

A year or so ago i asked my weight loss doc what he set for my goal weight and his response was that his goal for his patients was not a number on a scale rather it was good health.

my journey began in October 2008 at 342.5 lbs. i lost 130, relapsed, lost what i regained, relapsed again, lost what i regained, relapsed yet again and am back on track.

If this means i too am betraying the Fat Community so be it...this is for ME. They don't have to live in my body, I DO!!!


Medusa 01-16-2012 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by June (Post 505661)
I'm kind of fired up this morning.

I was emailing with a friend (she can out herself here, or not. Won't be hard to figure out who it is)

And she is actually getting HATE mail shaming her for her "betrayal" of the "Fat Community" because she decided she didn't want to end up with Diabetes and wanted to live longer.

Who the fuck is she betraying? The Major drug companies who make Lipitor and Insulin?

She's not betraying me, a woman of size.

She's not betraying anyone, and if we feel shame because she has the gumption to get up and move and eat healthier foods, that's our problem, not hers.

She's lost over a hundred pounds on her own. No surgery, no magic pill. Hard work -- Not so she can "get laid" SO SHE CAN LIVE LONGER!

Not only should we be encouraging and congratulating her, we should be looking at her as a role model. Not to be thin, to be healthy. She knew at 400lb+, she was NOT healthy.

I cannot believe that people would send her hate mail. In fact, it enrages me.

And no, I am not a self-loathing fat person. I am a 50 year old woman who feels pretty good about herself most days. But I also know that I am NOT as healthy as I could be and I do NOT move as much as I should. I am not diabetic, I do not have high blood pressure, and I don't want to get it, even though there are all kinds of pills out there to combat it.

I have started walking and doing Yoga again, because, this woman, my friend, woke me the fuck up and made me look at my own lifestyle in a different way.

I don't even own a scale. I don't care what the scale says, I care that I don't get up in the morning with stiffness, that I can walk twelve blocks uphill and not stop, that my body stays flexible as I age.

I have said this before, I do believe in size acceptance. I do not believe in Health At Any Size. I do not think it is healthy when someone cannot walk more than 20 feet without resting because they are out of breath. I do think it's possible that people who are obese by the Medical standards are healthy because they move their body and eat well, even if it's more.

I have a really great yoga dvd done by a woman of size that I will send to the first person who PM's me (give me your address). Because of the way I am, I need to actually go to the classes and wasn't so good at following DVD directions. I am a visual learner :)

I think I am done ranting now. For the moment.


That is incredibly fucked up.

Let me say this, I think it is incredibly brave of Superwoman (I'm calling her that until she decides to out herself) to do her journey in a visible, authentic way with unabashed resolve. It's brave not because there are vile haters out there in the world who let their own self esteem issues keep them from celebrating someone's health success, but because she is brave enough to do it with an audience. That, my dear friends, takes giant ovaries and that, to me, makes her a fucking BAD ASS.

On another note:

This is something that June and I have talked about at length. Back on the Dash site, when I was first figuring out I was a Femme at the age of 22, I felt such an enormous sense of affiliation and love with all ofthe fat people there who loved their bodies in ways I had never been witness to before. I was able to shed much of my insecurity about my own size by witnessing a few people I deeply cared about at the time own their size and space and demand the kind of respect for it that I had always been afraid to ask for.
It was and is amazing.
I am a firm believer that sexy comes and any size. I am also a firm believer that love should come at any size (both self-love and love directed). I do not, however, believe that any of us should be fetishizing size in a way that supports food addiction or destructive eating habits. That may look like many different things to all of us but for me, it means that I don't keep telling myself I'm fine the way I am while I shove Twinkies in my face and can't walk up a flight of stairs or am having a stroke due to high blood pressure while still shoveling over 6000 calories a day into my body.

It's hard for me to even type this because it feels like such a betrayal of my fat politics. The politics I have put a LOT of effort into over the years. Don't get me wrong, I am not ever going to dismantle my fat politics or start being negative about fat bodies but this re-examination has definitely churned some muddy waters for me.

There's another thing that I am remiss to talk about but I think it's important. I think that some of the fat politics that were happening in other spaces made a nice soft bed for willing food addicts to become even more unhealthy under the guise of....fuck, I've written and rewritten this sentence 10 times and am trying to say it in a way that won't sound like an attack. Let me just say that I gained a significant amount of weight when I felt that my fat body was more accepted/desired/fetishized/celebritized/etc. That's what happened for me and I own it and it wasn't because anyone else made it happen. I still hear the echos of fatphobia in "I'm not usually attracted to big girls but I'd date Medusa in a heartbeat" or "Medusa dresses so well for someone her size!" or "I wish I had Medusa's confidence!" (as if a confident fat woman was such an anomaly..and maybe it is but it felt like a headpat more often than not like "Oh look at you, with all of your ADORABLE little self-esteem!")

Sometimes I still feel like a traitor for even daring to make my body smaller, for having a goal of a healthier body, for being so self-involved that I'd want to focus on me. I know some of that is just the old stuff talking. But I also know that some of it is because I am coming from a history and a specific Butch-femme culture where there were some people who I idolized who were severely overweight and who helped me to find the love within myself after a lifetime of hating, both by watching and witnessing them and by creating an atmosphere of acceptance and love. That's a hard thing to examine if it means I have to let go of my safety zone, and for me that's exactly what it means.

Sorry for the gush.

<3

Rockinonahigh 01-16-2012 12:55 PM

Screw any one who puts anyone else down for getting healthyer and loseing weight.I didnt gain the weight till about 15years ago when I was in an accident that origanialy hurt my back,between meds and no activity from the injury I went from 120 to 200 so fast I couldnt beleave it,then over time even tho I was some what active I was still on the meds (steroids) wich made it worse so I was ove 300 when I just stoped takeing the meds and told the doc to kiss my fat italian a** cause he was makeing a killing from the inshurance co and drug companys by keeping me on all these meds that were suposed to be helping me.Getting off the meds wasnt easy nor was loseing the weight because I was fighting the effects of steroids for years,I gess I will always be battleing this tho I hope I could be free from its by now.I have lost from 303 to 252( water gain I gess) it was 248 a week ago.The weight goes up and down but mostly down so I know in doing something right,but I swear if I could ever get the $$$ I would have this belly fat cut off cause its the main prob I have with my back holding all this up is like carying another human on my back. Plus now I have diabetis to deal with,it sucks.No im not the mistry person June spoke of.

Rockinonahigh 01-16-2012 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 505684)
That is incredibly fucked up.

Let me say this, I think it is incredibly brave of Superwoman (I'm calling her that until she decides to out herself) to do her journey in a visible, authentic way with unabashed resolve. It's brave not because there are vile haters out there in the world who let their own self esteem issues keep them from celebrating someone's health success, but because she is brave enough to do it with an audience. That, my dear friends, takes giant ovaries and that, to me, makes her a fucking BAD ASS.

On another note:

This is something that June and I have talked about at length. Back on the Dash site, when I was first figuring out I was a Femme at the age of 22, I felt such an enormous sense of affiliation and love with all ofthe fat people there who loved their bodies in ways I had never been witness to before. I was able to shed much of my insecurity about my own size by witnessing a few people I deeply cared about at the time own their size and space and demand the kind of respect for it that I had always been afraid to ask for.
It was and is amazing.
I am a firm believer that sexy comes and any size. I am also a firm believer that love should come at any size (both self-love and love directed). I do not, however, believe that any of us should be fetishizing size in a way that supports food addiction or destructive eating habits. That may look like many different things to all of us but for me, it means that I don't keep telling myself I'm fine the way I am while I shove Twinkies in my face and can't walk up a flight of stairs or am having a stroke due to high blood pressure while still shoveling over 6000 calories a day into my body.

It's hard for me to even type this because it feels like such a betrayal of my fat politics. The politics I have put a LOT of effort into over the years. Don't get me wrong, I am not ever going to dismantle my fat politics or start being negative about fat bodies but this re-examination has definitely churned some muddy waters for me.

There's another thing that I am remiss to talk about but I think it's important. I think that some of the fat politics that were happening in other spaces made a nice soft bed for willing food addicts to become even more unhealthy under the guise of....fuck, I've written and rewritten this sentence 10 times and am trying to say it in a way that won't sound like an attack. Let me just say that I gained a significant amount of weight when I felt that my fat body was more accepted/desired/fetishized/celebritized/etc. That's what happened for me and I own it and it wasn't because anyone else made it happen. I still hear the echos of fatphobia in "I'm not usually attracted to big girls but I'd date Medusa in a heartbeat" or "Medusa dresses so well for someone her size!" or "I wish I had Medusa's confidence!" (as if a confident fat woman was such an anomaly..and maybe it is but it felt like a headpat more often than not like "Oh look at you, with all of your ADORABLE little self-esteem!")

Sometimes I still feel like a traitor for even daring to make my body smaller, for having a goal of a healthier body, for being so self-involved that I'd want to focus on me. I know some of that is just the old stuff talking. But I also know that some of it is because I am coming from a history and a specific Butch-femme culture where there were some people who I idolized who were severely overweight and who helped me to find the love within myself after a lifetime of hating, both by watching and witnessing them and by creating an atmosphere of acceptance and love. That's a hard thing to examine if it means I have to let go of my safety zone, and for me that's exactly what it means.

Sorry for the gush.

<3


Girl u rock,tell it like it is.


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