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GreeneyedMe 10-02-2012 03:20 PM

Yes, I am out....everywhere. Work is especially comfortable and tolerant...my company even offered partner benefits many years before marriage was legalized in NY. Nice place to be. :)

easygoingfemme 10-06-2012 07:50 AM

Yes.
I am self employed so it's a different kind of out. I keep a rainbow flag visible in my office for clients to see easily. I keep LGBTQ safe and open statements on my website along with the types of clients I specialize in. Lots of people don't pick up on it but those who do appreciate it.

BstlMyhart 10-06-2012 08:17 AM

I've never been "in" anywhere...I've always just been me. I have rarely run into any issues about my obvious sexual orientation. And they were someone else's issues...not mine. Everyone from the Director to the inmates knows. We have anti discrimination policies that include sexual orientation and we do have domestic partner benefits. I'm just "Lt." one of the "brothers in uniform". They know when things go back, I have their back and I know they have mine. It's been proven time and again. There have been a few occassions when an inmate will "go off" and call me every derrogatory name in the book. I've had to hold back a fellow officer because THEY took greater offense than I did. I knew the inmate WANTED to hurt me, and I would not allow them that satisfaction. My partners however were pissed. I think if I were hetero...THAT would be an issue...no one in my life anywhere would consider that normal. lol

Also, being who I am and having my rank, I've recently had a few new officers, and now a few cadets going through our academy, telling me they know they can be themselves and will be able to advance in this career and in our facility. They have no fear that their sexual orientation will hold them back. I see their self confidence rising to the surface as oppose to their body language showing they fear they have to hide part of themselves to be accepted as a fellow officer, which is something I saw with a few officers when I first started. Those officers are no longer with us though I can't speculate that this was the reason they left...did they feel like outcasts and ostracized? I can't answer that. I do know that I see a new self awareness, pride, and self confidence in those joining our ranks now. And it makes me proud that where I work...it's all about the work and one's ability to carry out their missions. It's not about who you date and sleep with. The world really has evolved.

jac 10-06-2012 08:30 AM

out and about here on the job. this is a safe zone. diversity is an absolute in an adolescent homeless shelter. it helps to have openly gay staff, makes things wicked easy and comfortable for the kids that come in off the streets to have acceptance and staff to relate with. I could not have asked for a better place to do my internship and then get hired on in my field. blessed!

twinkletoes 10-06-2012 08:58 AM

Well I'm not really at work, I'm at uni but I found it to be a bit of a crappy experience being out from day 1. Quite sad that some people of even of my age have homophobic tendencies and opinions...

Dance-with-me 10-06-2012 09:11 AM

I've been out at work at my various jobs since '84 but the most challenging was my current job - I'm in a very conservative county, and I was actually the first openly out gay person to work there. I have to admit that most folks didn't know because for much of my first two years there I was dating an FTM as he transitioned and so of course I referred to home as He and there was just no reason or appropriate time to explain the details.

We do finally have a lot more out faculty and staff, and even some straight staff are coming to the meetings for the newly formed GSA.

DanieClarke 10-07-2012 10:50 AM

I am moms caregiver and i get a small Veterans pension which is enough to live a simple sustainable life here on the farm

~ocean 10-07-2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BstlMyhart (Post 669429)
I've never been "in" anywhere...I've always just been me. I have rarely run into any issues about my obvious sexual orientation. And they were someone else's issues...not mine. Everyone from the Director to the inmates knows. We have anti discrimination policies that include sexual orientation and we do have domestic partner benefits. I'm just "Lt." one of the "brothers in uniform". They know when things go back, I have their back and I know they have mine. It's been proven time and again. There have been a few occassions when an inmate will "go off" and call me every derrogatory name in the book. I've had to hold back a fellow officer because THEY took greater offense than I did. I knew the inmate WANTED to hurt me, and I would not allow them that satisfaction. My partners however were pissed. I think if I were hetero...THAT would be an issue...no one in my life anywhere would consider that normal. lol

Also, being who I am and having my rank, I've recently had a few new officers, and now a few cadets going through our academy, telling me they know they can be themselves and will be able to advance in this career and in our facility. They have no fear that their sexual orientation will hold them back. I see their self confidence rising to the surface as oppose to their body language showing they fear they have to hide part of themselves to be accepted as a fellow officer, which is something I saw with a few officers when I first started. Those officers are no longer with us though I can't speculate that this was the reason they left...did they feel like outcasts and ostracized? I can't answer that. I do know that I see a new self awareness, pride, and self confidence in those joining our ranks now. And it makes me proud that where I work...it's all about the work and one's ability to carry out their missions. It's not about who you date and sleep with. The world really has evolved.

so well said (((bestill )))

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JDeere 09-21-2016 09:42 PM

It's obvious what I am when people see me, in person. At all my jobs I have been out.I've come across alot of issues with co workers in the past but am finding certain other people are respectful and accepting due to my performance.

dark_crystal 09-22-2016 06:37 AM

I am out to the staff and our director, and the other department heads in our directorate. I am actively closeted when it comes to the Board of Trustees or City Hall.

It's a rabidly conservative county, but at least they're rabid enough that you can look up all of their opinions in the Galveston Daily News "letters to the editor" section and know who isn't safe!

Lecheloco 09-22-2016 07:35 AM

I'm out everywhere everyday, I only wear men's clothing so it's rather obvious

anotherbutch 09-22-2016 07:45 AM

I'm out everywhere, everyday.

Orema 09-22-2016 08:00 AM

I'm out. The company, my manager, and teammates are supportive and respectful. We have a handful of lesbian, gay and queer people who are out. I have to come out a few times a year but "it is what it is."

*Anya* 09-22-2016 08:19 AM

Yes. As a femme, it is a continual process. You are always assumed to be straight.

At my current job, I am out to everyone in my department.

I just heard that another therapist was hired that is gay. I don't know if she actually told them this or if they are guessing.

I am waiting to see if she is femme or butch.

If she is butch, the blabby boss may have made an assumption about her that may, or may not be, correct.

She might turn out to be straight but likes flannel shirts (as an example).

Medusa 09-22-2016 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 399303)
I'm out at work. Way out.

I have been out at every job I've had since I was 17.

I work in a large company. We have 1500-2000 people on our particular campus and I am one of maybe 15 out LGBT folks. Many of the LGBT folks who are not out (but known to me from years in clubs or with volunteer orgs) are people who are very "old school" about their privacy or who are in upper management VP positions (perhaps fearful of their promotion opportunities even though our company has a good diversity policy)



I posted this back in 2011 and am still with the same company.

My experience here remains pretty much the same with the exception that several of the other folks who were out have left the company, either in retirement or through layoffs.

I am the only senior manager that I know of on this entire campus who is out. I've been lucky enough not to experience much in the way of homophobia or judgment but do hear ignorant comments regularly. This happens in the real world every day so I just view it as a product of living in the world with ignorant people in general.

I've had a good experience over all with this company and still have photos all over my office of me being very gay. I even have a Medusa head (replete with moving snakes!) draped in a huge gay pride necklace and have a sign on the outside of my door that says "FABULOUSNESS is spoken here" (done in rainbow lettering).

I know this is a privilege and I respect that.

TL1 09-22-2016 09:54 AM

yes it's too obvious.

My experience has been fine. I'm treated like the other guys. (Flirty women and the infamous guy nods and the "what up's")

I've not had any problems anywhere I've worked. I consider myself lucky since I know many have.

FireSignFemme 09-22-2016 02:17 PM

I'm out to God and everybody. I think for myself to do anything else would be to lie by omission. I understand people's reasons for choosing to remain closeted but I'm just simply not going to let any of that stuff rule me. I'd rather live only one day entirely free to be my true authentic self, than live a long life, in perfect health, surrounded by opulence and splendor in exchange for my silence - willingness to spend those years living closeted. Even if while closeted I could have the most attractive and sexually compatible woman on the planet to be my loyal, devoted, faithful friend and lover along with bags and bags and vaults full of money the answer is still no. Esse quam videri, this because to my way of thinking - It ain't worth a thing if it ain't got that zing.

*Anya* 09-22-2016 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSignFemme (Post 1095116)
I'm out to God and everybody. I think for myself to do anything else would be to lie by omission. I understand people's reasons for choosing to remain closeted but I'm just simply not going to let any of that stuff rule me. I'd rather live only one day entirely free to be my true authentic self, than live a long life, in perfect health, surrounded by opulence and splendor in exchange for my silence - willingness to spend those years living closeted. Even if while closeted I could have the most attractive and sexually compatible woman on the planet to be my loyal, devoted, faithful friend and lover along with bags and bags and vaults full of money the answer is still no. Esse quam videri, this because to my way of thinking - It ain't worth a thing if it ain't got that zing.

I just need to point this out:

Sometimes, for some people, it is not to live in "opulence and splendor" to remain closeted; it is simply to survive.

You and I are very fortunate to be able to make that choice.

Not everyone gets to do that.

Orema 09-22-2016 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL1 (Post 1095088)
yes it's too obvious.

My experience has been fine. I'm treated like the other guys. (Flirty women and the infamous guy nods and the "what up's")

I've not had any problems anywhere I've worked. I consider myself lucky since I know many have.

I'm lucky too, T1. And, things weren't like this 20 years ago where I work. No one was out, though there were whispers and probably campaigns to prevent lesbians and gay people from advancing.

The first person who came out where I'm employed was a manager in the technology department. He came out during a black-tie event. Employees were allowed to bring guests and he brought his partner. They did a slow dance that was very nice. Thank goodness no one applauded.

Yeah, I'm lucky too.


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