I ordered Alice in Vapeland's Doubly Delectable liquid sampler yesterday and can't wait to get it!

Still using my original setup with 510 batteries (1 manual, 1 automatic) and cartomizers. I keep reading all of the posts to get a better idea of what to upgrade to in about a month or so. After using V4L products for over a month now, my recommendation is to not buy their juices. The batteries and cartomizers seem fine, but their juices are not very good.

Unc - let me know how the Alice juices are once they arrive. I'm so excited! Also, what EC blends flavors did you order and how are they?

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E-Juices
 

Merry, I got 8 different flavors from ECBlend, including 3 of their different Dragon Blood mixes. I have only used the sample Twinkie so far as I am letting the others steep longer. Got them on the 8'th but don't know how long I can keep my hands off trying more of those flavors right now. I shake the bottles daily and usually do a "quick steep" hot bath on them every day too. Just take the bottles and put them in a ziplic bag, then in another ziploc bag so you don't take the chance of getting the labels wet. Then run very hot tap water over them (I use a big mixing bow to put the bag inl) and let it stay for about 15 minutes. That will help steep them faster and don't forget to shake the bottles daily. Also, taking off the cap and the little rubber tip and letting it stay in a cool area out of light makes it steep quicker too.
I am going to start dripping too as so many say it is a better flavor. ECBlend has the best prices on equipment and juices I have found.
I also got a couple of the blunt tip syringes to fill my cartomizers and clearomizers...much easier to fill that way.
If you upgrade to a new system, merry, I highly recommend the EGo-C Twist, with variable voltage. You can crank the voltage up and it is divine. I got mine at SmokeyStick.com. Got the 2 Ego-C and 1 Ego-C Twist starter kits for $100 total including their $20 shipping charge. Even at that price, it is cheaper than any other site I've seen.
Will give reviews of the other flavors when I try them, merry. Can hardly wait to get my Alice In Vapeland 16 count sampler!

Reviews
 

Hardware/Vendor review:
I just got my eGo-VV from Apollo and I'm totally loving it. I do still use my pen-style batteries, they're less noticeable while stealth-vaping.

I've gotten all my gear from Apollo, mostly cause they've gotten good reviews/ratings, they're a local company and their customer service is excellent.

They didn't have a VV starter kit, so I just bought the battery (http://www.apolloecigs.com/ego-varia...e-p/abegov.htm), 2 CE4 clearomizers (Stardust) and a converter so I could use my existing cartomizers on the VV. Apollo often has discount coupons and I took advantage of that. Oh, and shipping's free on orders over $30. My total was $40.08.

I've noticed that if you've already got some hardware, buying a starter kit may not be the best bet (but may be). You may not need a 2nd wall charger or car charger, you may not need the included clearos/cartos if you already have the correctly threaded ones. If you've got juice, you like, you may not need to get that either.

Anyway, I'm totally loving my VV, I like the digital readout and battery life indicator, but I'm geeky that way.

What has been a fail for me is the clearomizers; they really mute the flavor of my juice. Now my cartos on the VV.... heaven.

So I'll be buying more 510 blank cartos and trying different tank types cause even thought I don't mind loading cartos, it would be nice to not have to as often.

Juice reviews:
Disclaimer - taste/flavor is really subjective.

Apollo's juices are okay, I've had better. Of their flavors I like RY4 and Tobacco. I think they're pricy but given I'm not a fan I would think that.

Heather's Heavenly Vapes - big fan here. They're my go-to Vanilla (Vanilla Dream), tobacco (Legend) and coffee (Mocha Java smooth). They also have this really, really good vanilla mint. I've also tried (and like) the pear and this thing called Angels Kiss which is a cool, fruity thing.

EC Blends - my 'best bang for the buck' juice. I lurve their menthol (New Harbor). I like their Vanilla and they have a very good RY4. I've tried a few of the Dragon series, but only Dragon's Milk appealed to me (think of a mild horchata).

Surprisingly, the bacon was good, except it didn't taste like bacon - it tasted like maple, but smells like bacon and that worked for me. I may not buy it again but it was fun.

Tasty Vapors is one I'm going to be trying. One co-worker swears by these guys and I've gotten a few hits of some of the flavors. They have the most ass-kicking cinnamon (atomic cinnacide) and it will crack a tank so be careful. The mango ice cream is one I'll be buying as well.

Call me blasphemous, but I'm not a fan of AiV. Of the 16 flavors I've tried there were only 2 I'd consider getting again. I liked Twas Brilling (blackberry crumble) and would definitely get that again, the other was Frost Blossom (mandarin-menthol) and I might get that again.

I don't think it's AiV as much as me liking stronger flavors. I find AiV too subtle for my tastes.

Ego-VV
 

Thanks for the info on that Ego-VV...looks interesting with a high variable voltage range. I watched a video review on it and the guy said it isn;t a true pass through battery as you can't vape while it is charging??? Let me know if that is the case.

Still waiting on my Alice In Vapeland order...they have such a LONG time until deliveries. Hope I don't experience a low taste of them like you indicated. That site Tasy Vapaor sure has great prices on their juices. Might order some to try...holy Batman a 29 ml bottle for that price is awesome. If you ordered some, let us know what your experience is with those.

The video said if the battery was all the way gone you can't use it while charging, I've not tried that. I have done pass-thru, but I've still had some charge on the battery, and it works just fine that way.

A lot of folks really love AiV, so I'm saying it's me and liking stronger "Here, let me wake you up or kick you in the butt" types of flavors.

I'm planning on ordering from Tasty Vapor next month as I just got my Heather's Heavenly vape juice 2 days ago. I can say I really like the Mango Ice Cream, I'm not particularly a fruit-juicer but my coworker gave me the last of his (about 2ml) and it was really nice.

ECBlends
 

Soooooo...been vaping a few of the 8 different ECBlends juices I got. Like the Boston Creme Pie and Cheeky Bon Bon and Cherry Swirl Cheesecake I've been vaping. Going to let the 3 different Dragon juices steep longer like they suggest. My 16 bottle sampler AIW order should be coming soon as I think they are on the 4/2 orders now. Also placed an order for bigger bottlse of the Zombie Apocolypse and Crunkberry the week after.
Definately going to try some from Tasty Vapors.

I have a couple of questions. I am looking at this EGo VV unit for purchase and wondering a couple of things:

1) Do you need the converter for 510 threaded cartos on this unit?

2) Can you use dual-coil 510 cartos on it? Have you tried these?

3) Does this unit come with a wall charger or only a pass-through USB charger? Did you get the 6-hour or 12-hour unit?

4) When using single-coil 510 cartos, does this unit burn through the liquid really fast? I refill mine on a pen-style battery every half hour or so.

Thank you for the info your provided!

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Has anyone tried DIY liquid mixing?
 

I am doing research on liquids and wondering if anyone has tried DIY mixing? I am curious if you can do this with all liquids, or if you need to know what you are mixing first LOL

Found a potentially good e-cig supply site
 

I was shopping around for different options/e-cig sellers, and found this website - Stormy's Vapor Cellar at http://stormysvaporcellar.com/oc_1/i...e=common/home"

They have really good prices on accessories and found on the clearance items page a 4ml or 6ml 510 threaded cartomizer for only 3.99. Plus, this site has concentrated flavors (called capella flavors) and 100% or 48% nicotine juice to mix your own/DIY mixing. Among their flavors are juicy fruit, popcorn, and graham cracker along with the usuals.

The reviews give raves on their customer service with fast shipping.

comparisons
 

I am looking at the eGo twist 1100mAh and the eGo VV (650 mAh or 1200 mAh) and comparing them for price, battery charge length, battery life, etc. This is what I am finding:

1) The eGo C twist has a voltage output of 3.2 to 4.8, while the eGo VV has a voltage output of 3.0 to 6.0.

2) The eGo VV has a battery charge length of up to 6 hours for the smaller model and up to 12 hours for the larger model, while the twist has up to 3 hours charge.

3) Neither states the expected battery life, so that's not helpful.

4) At the apollo site, the smaller model of 650 mAh is on sale right now for $34.95 with USB passthrough and $44.95 for the 1200 model. In addition, there is an April sale code for 17% off the entire order on top of the sale price. Shipping is free. The smokeystick.com site has the eGo C twist kit with USB passthrough, 1 tank, cover and base for $32.95 with paid shipping.

My answers below in green italics

Hi Kobi,

I am new to vaping also and likely only know a little more than you do. There are various sites that explain the whole vaping experience. A good place to start is http://nu-vapor.com/forum/nu-beginni...rence-library/. This site has a good library of topics including terminology, starter kit recommendations, and comparisons of different setup types. Going to a vaping store is likely also a good place to start as they will be able to explain to you better than a posted thread can. The factors that will determine what e-cig you get will be how much energy/time you want to put into vaping (some just want vape and go and not delve too deeply into the mechanics of it) and if you are using this to quit smoking cigarettes. You can start with the usual pen-style kits that look like a cigarette, are about the same size (length and circumference) as a 120 cigarette and are more discrete than some of the other battery models that are larger, but also produce more power and render a stronger vape. If you could let the board know what you are looking for exactly, it may be easier to answer your questions.

There are numerous sites out there to choose for your starter kit. I would recommend a starter kit that will come with a battery and charger, and cartomizers (the apparatus that holds and vaporizes the liquid) or atomizers. These kits often come with a case to carry them in, which is helpful. I would order with the starter kit at least one set of pre-filled cartomizers that you just screw on to the battery and start vaping. This will give you optimal ease in starting and give you an idea of how much you like it. In case you do not like it, for whatever reason, you may not want to order too much at the beginning or opt for the best models (the most expensive ones) until you get a feel for it. Although, I can't say I've heard of anyone that didn't love it. The deciding factor will be the flavor of juices you vape (and the quality). The favorites for flavors on this board seem to be from Alice in Vapeland at https://aliceinvapeland.com/ and EC blends at http://www.ecblendflavors.com/ . As another poster mentioned, taste is highly subjective, but in general, you can go by reviews on the sites for a particular flavor as to whether it is more liked or disliked by users. Some liquids will have to be steeped and do not arrive at your door ready to vape. This is true of both the Alice in Vapeland liquids and the EC Blends liquids. This is one reason I recommend at least 1 package (of usually 5) pre-filled/flavored cartomizers of your choice to begin. If you go ahead and order blank cartomizers, (usually also a package of 5), then you can use them for the steeping liquids when they are ready. Steeping time varies from days to weeks. It involves soaking the bottles in a hot water bath, mechanical shaking of the liquids in the bottle at least once daily, and allowing them to set in a cool, dark place until the taste is good and what you want. This is a long thread, but if you read most/all of it, it will give you some good starting advice once you get the terminology and basics.

Daisy and Loren Q both know a lot and participate on the board regularly and may come along and reply also. They both know a lot more than I do.

Check out youtube videos. Some of them are great in breaking down the mechanics of the e-cig, if you are interested in that. Some also explain models and compare the different ones on the market now.

If you are using this to quit smoking, vaping works very well for that. I am down to about 1 cigarette a day on average. This is from a 1-2 pack a day smoker. The nicotine strength you want for the liquids to be will depend on what you normally smoke (lights, regular) and how much a day. I have liquids that are 36mg, 24mg, and 18mg strength that I vape most of the day. Some are lower at 12mg and I vape these intermittently. I smoked ultra lights, so this gives you an idea of what I needed.

Good luck!

I started vaping to quit smoking and it has been very successful. It's different than smoking and I had an adjustment period before I settled into vaping as naturally as I smoked a cigarette. Whereas I smoked a full cigarette, then put it out and did not light another cigarette for a while (about 20 mins), I started vaping and was basically chain vaping for the first few weeks. This worried me. But, now I am not doing it was much and my smoking has dramatically decreased. I think as long as you don't expect it to be exactly like smoking, you can definitely use this as a method to quit. I've tried other NRT (nicotine replacement therapy) products like the patch and gum and did okay with them, but still had the drive to smoke when I could. Now, I can go an entire day without smoking and really don't miss it much. I wish I had tried this years ago when someone first mentioned it to me and I ignored the recommendation at the idea of it not working.

:moonstars:

EgoC-Twist...dual coil etc
 

Meri, I get a lot more than 3 hour battery life on the Twist, hon. I can use it all day/night without having to charge. I do think in the future I may get that Ego-VV, it looks interesting. The dual coil tanks are superior to regular ones. I also bought a Nova tank but not used it yet as I want to sample all the juices I've bought recently before smoking the whole 3.4 ml of a particular favor. There is such a difference in the dual coils, meri, you may want to get some.

I was just reading the specs of each model of each website. About how much battery life do you get if longer than 3 hours? I'm weighing each unit now and planning to purchase sometime this week.

I was looking at the dual tanks and wondering if they were superior. Thanks for the input. I may get a couple of them with this purchase and test them out.

Thanks Unc!

Meri,

Battery life is based on at least 4 factors. The mAH (mili ampere hour), the voltage of your device, the resistance of your carto/clearo/atomizer and how you actually vape (long draws, how frequent).

The rule of thumb is 1 hour per 100mAH, so a 600mAH is approximately a 6 hour charge. That time is impacted by voltage and resistance. The higher the voltage and/or resistance, the more power it draws.

Bear in mind that battery life is use time not elapsed time. My 600 mAH lasts me all day (and then some); I waver between 3.5 to 4.2 volts on standard resistance single coil cartos/clearos.

I would definitely check out your local vaping store, a lot of them have test gear you can try. If you don't want to make a big $ investment, maybe try a disposable first. That could give you an idea of how well vaping will work for you.

Good luck!

Oh, this is very helpful! Thank you, Loren.

I agree about the disposable not being anywhere near as good, but if you don't know vaping's going to work for you, it's a good barometer.

For me, it was easier to drop the $6 on a disposable rather that $30+ for a starter kit. My thinking was "what if I don't like this e-cig thing".

The disposable was enough to convince me I should invest, and here I am.

Hi folks, it's been a while since I posted anything in here, so I thought I'd review some of the juices I've tried lately. They're all from ECBlends.

• Dragon's Blood: The jury is still out on this. When I can taste the way it's supposed to taste, it's nice. Fruity and creamy. Most of the time, though, I get a floral taste that I'm not crazy about.
  
• Lime margarita - Yum! Mostly lime, not much tequila taste, but it's good. Refreshing.
  
• Buttered keoke rum coffee - This was a freebie they sent with an order, and it's REALLY nice. Good in the morning when I'm drinking coffee. Sweet but not sickly sweet.
  
• My own creation, "Bananas Foster" - A combination of banana, brown sugar, rum, and cinnamon. It still tastes/smells medicine-y, or kind of like bug spray (blech!) I've had it for a few weeks, though, so I thought it would be steeped by now. I'll keep trying.
  
• Strawberry daiquiri - still my favorite, though I sometimes get a floral taste from that, too. Also, of all the juices, this one tends to get a burnt taste. Maybe because I like it so much I'm puffing faster than the liquid can get into the atomizer? I'm still experimenting with PG/VG combinations, but I have a lot of this 60/40 before I'll order any more.

I did get some low-res attys, and I notice some difference in resistance and taste but not a lot. I tend to suck hard (she said, har har,) so I'd really like something that won't burn when I do that. I appreciate all the good advice in this thread.

I'm looking forward to the day when the FDA does testing on this stuff, so I can be sure that it's safe. Until then I'll always be a teensy bit anxious about it.

I have only had my vapor4life pen-style batteries for a little over a month and they are already dying :badmood: I don't know what to expect. I did suck on them like a crack pipe for a couple of weeks, but then I only vaped a couple of times a day for 3 weeks. I know they have a limited life, but I expected at least 2 solid months of vaping from them. Plus, the passthrough unit that came with the same start-up kit is seemingly malfunctioning at this point - it is making an audible pulsing sound through the carto and the carto is running really hot, like too hot to touch. I have tried the passthrough with 5 different cartos; it's the same with all of them.

So, I put an order in for another start-up kit with HHV. I'm getting 2 eGo 900 mAh regular batteries (manual) with USB charger and wall unit. I didn't get the VV because I've ordered $80 in juices today! I also bought a lot of different tanks, cartos, and some bottles with the needle top for easier filling. I'll review the juices when they come in.

Happy vapping!

:happyjump:

Sucks about your pen-style batteries dying out so early. How long and when were you charging them?

My starter kit (Apollo Extreme) came with 2 batteries. For the way I vape, a battery will last me 4 to 5 hours. I've been using them since the end of December. I would vape until I got the signal the battery was going then switch; I would charge the depleted battery overnight.

About a month ago, I noticed one started dying sooner (about 1/2 the time of the other). I went to Apollo's customer support and they sent me a replacement battery.

Hi Loren :bow:

I am charging them daily, at different times of the day (because I tend to stay up late at night), but mostly recharge at least 1 while I sleep. The other one recharges while I am using the newly recharged one (if that makes sense). There is an indicator light on my wall charger that turns green when the batteries are fully charged. I wait until the light is green before using them. I have tried to follow basic common sense with these batteries i.e. keeping the battery head/tip/connection point clean and dry, disconnecting the cartos when the battery is not in use, fully charge the batteries before use, and kept them in the carrying case when not in use to keep debris from getting into them. I'm not sure if I am doing something wrong. :confused:

The good news is, I can report V4L has very responsive customer service. I sent an email to them last night around midnight and received a response by noon today with an apology and confirmation of a shipment of 2 new batteries and a new passthrough sent out today. So, I'm very pleased with this. They did not even request I send the old batteries back to them.


Meri :hippie:

I just wanted to add a quick note about the stormy's vapor cellar site I mentioned a few posts back...I ordered several cartos, tanks (kanger T3 and dual coil and 4ml generic cartos) and adapters from them late last night and they have already shipped the order (by the next day before 10am). So, that is very good processing time. Their website is at http://stormysvaporcellar.com/oc_1/i...te=common/home

I also wanted to mention another site. It's new, I think, but right now they have a ship for free for any order over $6 and they have the best prices for 12ml metal needle bottles at 99 cents each. The website is http://www.juiceray.com/category_s/1848.htm .

Happy Vaping!

:cheer:

Juiceray
 

Hi Meri,

Was fun watching live vapon.tv last night...and particularly cool that I won two drawings :) from the sponsor Juiceray.

I still haven't got my confirmation from AIW and wish the damn order would get here. No monies left for another order this week, but I have 2 orders in with them already that I am waiting on delivery. At this rate my winnings from Juiceray will get here before theres lol.

In two weeks will buy more AIW if I like their stuff in the BIG bottles and then also try Tasty Vapor. May also try HH too.

You were on a roll, unc! Which juice flavors did you get?

I also ordered again from AiV last night, got rabbit hole flavors of Foursquare, Pearship, and Lil' Berry Cheesecake, and a big bottle of the Quiet Morning because I think I am going to like that one a lot. I'm getting antsy waiting also. I have calculated between delivery time and steeping time, I won't be able to vape their juices until around the first of May :bigcry:

In the mean time, I still have half of each 30ml bottle of the V4L juices (8 of them) plus more coming from HHV.

contest
 

I ordered the chocolate covered cherry and the toffee flavors. Will be getting 12 ml bottles. I didn't order any from AIV this week. I want to try some other vendors too especially value vapor---great prices there too. Seems they provide 90% of the companies with their juice that gets marked up.

another e-juice vendor found
 

Looking on the internet, I found another vendor I'd like to try. They have awesome prices...30 ml bottles for only $11 right now!

http://www.gotovapor.com/eliquid

I got my order today from Heather's Heavenly Vapes at http://www.heathersheavenlyvapes.com/store3/. I am really pleased with what I ordered and wanted to give a review of the hardware and juices:

Hardware is the eGo 900 mAh CE5 batteries. They last about 5-6 hours with a full charge and take about an hour and a half to reach full charge. The size of the batteries is just right for me; I wouldn't want anything larger. They are about the size of a cuban cigar, but a little shorter. With the larger capacity cartos/clearos, it's pretty long. I mentioned this info for anyone who may want something discrete. The 2 eGo's came with 2 mophead clearomizers, but I haven't tried those yet. I'm waiting for my Alice in Vapeland juices for those. I did use the 2 Kanger T3 bottom coil tanks, and LOVE these things. I will order more.

Other cartos/clearos I got:

Smoketech dual coil cartos. They hold 5mls of liquid and fit these eGo batteries perfectly. The dual coil really does make a difference.

Juice - I ordered from HHV this week, so my juice is from them:

Crackberry - Blackberry; subtle, but still able to taste it. Sweet. Was able to vape it as soon as the batteries were charged.

Dragon's Breath - Dragonfruit; very nice flavor; strong enough. Sweet. Also able to vape it right away.

Mocha Java Smooth - Mocha coffee with a cream finish; not very chocolatey, but decent. Going to let it steep a while and retest.

Still waiting for the AiV order...should be here next week. I will give a review of those when they come in.



:moonstars:

I wanted to show images of the equipment I got this weekend:

This is the eGo 900 mAh battery (not a variable voltage device):

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2039aca8.jpg

This image shows you the difference in size between a 650 mAh eGo and a 1000 mAh eGo:

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3bea9288.jpg

This is the Kanger T3 clearomizer (similar to a cartomizer in function, but you can see through it and it holds more liquid). These T3's are bottom coil and you they do not have the sponge material/batting or a wick like other clearomizers. The piece beside the clearomizer is a replacement coil head for it. These come in different colors, not just clear. They are awesome!

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/...psf841e7c2.jpg

To fill the T3's , you will need this type of bottle or bottle cap (needle nose) or a syringe. They are available through most online vaping stores:

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/...pse63d7296.jpg

I wanted to share another juice vendor link with everyone. I know there are tons to choose from out there, so this is just another possibility. I hear their flavors are complex and good:

http://www.fuzionvapor.com/

Among the favorites are Purple Pie Man, Unicorn Blood, and Bob Marley Blood (So I hear).

The cool thing about this company is they donate a portion of the sales each month to a charity. They designate a different flavor of the month and half of the proceeds from that flavor go to varying charity orgs.

They are not one of the cheaper juice vendors, however. But, they do give you extra flavor choices and they will take special requests on orders. Their base mix is a 65VG/35PG blend.

:moonstars:

Hi Vapers!
Don;t forget to check out http://vapeon.tv/. This is a live tv show on vaping and they have some great hosts that answer questions about equipment, juice and just a lot of fun as you chat live with everyone in the room. They also have a lot of giveaway drawing from vendors for their proudct, juices etc. At the very top right there is a way to check out upcoming shows with who is hosting and times. Come on out and have some fun with meridian and I. We've both won some kewl stuff on the shows.

Hi Kobi,

I'm new to vaping, so this is my quasi-knowledgeable input:

The smaller the battery, meaning the more realistic as compared to cigarettes, the less power they have, and in general, the less vapor they will produce. The vapor is partly determined by your cartos/clearomizers/atomizers/tanks that go on top of the battery. You can get ones that produce more vapor, but they will drain the battery faster, usually. I am not familiar with your setup, but based on the photos on the Apollo website, the batteries seem about equal to the usual pen-style or stick batteries. These are about the smallest you can get. There are a few shorter than those, I think. But, you will not find much, if anything, that is the same size as a cigarette. Even if you did find one, the power would be very weak and the charge would not last long. This is fine if you are tied to a computer or wall outlet where you can recharge regularly. On the go, it's not very practical.

I am a sizest also when it comes to these things. I don't want some huge machine thing in my hand that I have to tote around. My eGo's that I just got are perfect. The clearomizers I got for them (similar to the cartomizer you have for your batteries, but they are clear - you can see through them - and they hold more liquid and last longer than a standard cartomizer) specifically produce a lot of vapor. My battery lasts about 5-6 hours on full charge. But, they are larger (fatter) than what you have now. You can go with a 650 mAh eGo (mine are 900 mAh) and it will be about the same length, but fatter than a cigarette, although not as fat as mine is.

It isn't exactly like smoking - there are differences that took me a while to adjust to before I settled into vaping. It took a good 2 weeks to get to the point where it was a decent substitute for smoking most of the time. There are ways to achieve the amount of vapor you seek. And, the liquids or pre-filled cartomizers can produce more or less vapor, depending on the liquid used in them. As I said above, the cartos/clearomizers can help to do that as well. But, in general, you need some power to operate the more vapor-producing tops. The tobacco flavored juices and pre-filled cartos tend to give more of a throat hit, the same or at least similar to, what you get when smoking.

That said, try to be patient and give the ecig time to grow on you. It's odd at first, not automatic like smoking is, and it does taste different. It may take a few weeks before you feel more comfortable. If you are finding that the vapor you get and the taste is just not going to work, then people here can help you work on getting a better choice in a pre-filled cartomizer, one that has some Pow to it, or work toward a little larger battery with a different top (carto) and you can get that strong flavor you seek. I will ask around to see which cartos/juices deliver a good vapor and throat hit and get back to you. Are you specifically wanting tobacco flavor? If so, menthol or non? And if not tobacco, then what flavor did you choose for your cartos?

Good luck and don't give up!

:moonstars:

I know there are others that are more 'cig-a-like' you can try an NJoy king disposable to see if that works, if so then invest in something closer to what you want. You can get those disposables at many convenience stores (i.e. 7-11)

Also, with *any* e-cig, you drag differently, instead of a short hard pull, you do need to go slower with less pull.

I tried NJoy first, it really does have the feel of cig. The problem is short battery life. It lasted me just a couple of hours before the battery died. By the way, when they say "equal to 1 pack", it's not really.

You can find several 'cig-a-likes' out there; NJoy and Green Smoke are the ones I've seen.

My first rechargeable was the Extreme, and I like it. I purposely wanted something that didn't look like a cig though. After I learned to pull slow and not as hard, I got a ton of vapor. I started with tobacco at 0 nicotine, then 6mg to increase the throat hit. I've been pretty happy with it.

I do have small hands and don't hold it the way I do a cigarette. The longer battery life was well worth the trade off for me, my extreme will last 1/2 a day (with the way I vape anyway).

Kobi, if you're really unsatisfied take advantage of the 30day money back guarantee; there's no reason to hold on to it if it's not working for you.

I'm doing V2. I was on disposbles in england because they were easy to get from the store and reasonably priced. I've been vaping for a year now. I chose V2 because as a canuck, the stuff can be sent back at the border. Canadain customs can be funny about e-cigs as it's a non-regulated form of drug.
I've never had mine grabbed, but V2 will refund my money if it is, so I chose them. I've gotten four of my friends here hooked on it and we all order together in a big lot so the shipping is cheaper.

The reason it didn't work for one of my friends was that she wasn't smoking it enough. She'd nip into the loo at work and have a few puffs and have sneaky puffs here and there, instead of making up an excuse and going for her sneaky 20 minute two fag walk.

I told her to a) go up on nicotine level to a strong and b) do exactly what she had been= smoke it for 20 minutes.

that worked much better and she realises that she uses cigs as an excuse to escape from people and have a break. Not taking that time out doesn't help her. She *wants* to go stand outside for 20 minutes.

V2 charge lasts a whole day. And I'm on medium nicotine and it's fine. I might go up to strong for a fuller lung hit, like the irish disposables I used to use. I have black slender batteries, automatic draw (no button to push), and coffee flavoured or turkish tobacco flavoured pre-filled cartridges. I'm very happy with them. I don't like manual button pushes. I do have to hold it different as it's heavier that a cig but it's only marginally lighter and I like the sleek, black, classy shaft with the various colours of tips. But then I loved cocktail cigs that were black and gold.

I hold it like a the women did in the 30's - 50's when they used to have no filters and you needed a filter tip on your cig. It takes a slightly heavier hold. But I get lots of compliments on it!