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Fan Tasered. What do you think?
A 17 year old baseball fan ran on the field at the Phillies game on Monday night. He was brought down by a taser used by an off duty police officer. Do you support the use of tasers at sporting and other events to bring down unruly fans? What do you think about this? Here is the youtube link to view and the article about the incident.
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhbG6CQSG7s"]YouTube- Police Use Taser Gun On Phillies Fan[/nomedia] http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5160692 |
Um, NO.
I think that tasering a minor for being an asshat is complete overkill. Especially at a sporting event where running onto the field is a time-honored tradition for obnoxious daredevils everywhere. Don't tase them, bro! |
The sadist in me found it amusing.....:elefant:
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Besides the obvious reasons, it can be dangerous to be tasered, especially if you are under the influence as sometimes fans are. There have even been a few cases of deaths resulting from tasing.
A lot of security guards at games are not in shape to run around on the field to try to catch someone. But I think if there is no other way to stop someone make sure there are some signs clearly stating what will happen and if you're that stupid, silly or drunk to run on the field than you might get tased. Also, I've seen this happen at a game. It's probably worse. http://lebrownstown.com/wp-content/u...s-steelers.jpg |
wow! that cop is a dick!
why not just shoot the kid? apparently you can use all kinds of force if you break a rule. *dislike |
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Oh yeah... same here!! :cracked: |
Tase 'em all! Philadelphia fans have a long and storied past of idiocy.
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NO,its a bit of over kill in my book.As for the security being too fat to do the job without taseing someone,why do they not keep fit cause we know its a job that will require movement.Lately I have noticed a lot of police officers need a fitness program bad,some cant hardly get out of the cruiser much less run.
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don't tase babies, please.
dissension: i'm shocked that ez wants to taser kids, while i voted 'never'.
i was all, 'omg! somebody voted yes! i would love to know who that is!' and he goes, 'i did!' and i refused to believe it until he walked me through the 'costs of tickets, the out of shape security guards, the disruption of a game' --and i still don't *care* at all, i still believe that no one should be tasered that isn't being *violent*. i feel like i don't even know him... :tiger: |
No one ever runs across the race track at NASCAR... I am kinda jealous...
I am not fond of the fanatic fans, what if one day some nutcase shoots or stabs a player. I mean come on you have to know at a game, any game there is going to be some sort of security fat or fit.. If you are gonna be silly enough to try it, do it but when the uniforms start chasing after ya, I learned in my younger years to just drop and raise your hands.... Ya never know when you are gonna get some trigger happy joe peabody do gooder, next time it won't be a tazer... sad but true:soccer: |
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I was another "NO" and Jack needs to sit beside Ezee because she voted for a "Tase the shit out of them" button. :farmshotgun: |
I voted sometimes - because I do think it depends on the situation at hand - not so much the event. (We needed more options, man....)
Whether it's a "tradition" or not - no one is supposed to be on the field during a game except those that are supposed to be there. No, I don't think it's cool to taser minors. But maybe if they realize that they CAN be tasered, it might deter them from being that much more obnoxious. |
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i shouldn't have to lounge around the house in kevlar. |
And another thing.
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End rant. |
The police here in Maryland are out of control with tasering. We hear on the news about how kids are tasered, and then later die from it. Then over the weekend we hear about the elderly, pregnant women, and the disabled being tasered. I think it is a new toy for the police to use. Forget using guns, go to the dept. store or online and buy a taser. Then you can buy yourself a job. Phili fans do have a bad reputation. But there is no reason why a kid needed to be tasered. Beer sales need to be limited at all games. I just see no reason why beer is sold repeatedly to a drunk. Then let that person drive? No. |
revision: i'm pretty sure that ez attends games in *hopes* of a tasering.
i can't wait for babies, to see ez at little league with a taser. |
In general, I do not support overzealous Police Officers tasering or shooting anyone, but this just happened in Portland yesterday...
http://www.kptv.com/video/23460539/ I'd rather he be tasered than shot... |
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Taseing kids is just plane wrong..Not long ago on our local news this subjet was brought up cause of violence at high schools..One kid pulls a knife on another and the war was on..how did he get pass the security check was he had a ceramic knife that didnt set the wand off.It took two big burley cops to tackle the kid,im siurprised they didnt do worse.What have kids beome cause I dont remember this kind of stuff untill the last recent years.
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I live pretty close to Philly - and I used to live in NY.
In New York, there were far and few between instances where you heard someone ran out on a field. Not to say they haven't, or won't - but in New York, the obnoxious behavior is saved for after the game, if you know what I mean. *wink wink shaking fist* Philly fans are very obnoxious, yes. But, I'm sure they'll refer to it as "spirit". I suppose it's subjective. |
I think it's a wee bit disingenuous to make assumptions that cops are running around tasering folks for fun or without any merit whatsoever. It's hard for me to side with folks deliberately causing trouble. Heck, I walk around all day without getting tasered. I've even been to professional sporting events without finding trouble. Imagine?
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Hell - It's been at least .. three months since I've been last tasered for no reason. It doesn't happen ALL the time. Sidenote: When you're paying $90 a ticket for not even a half way decent seat, I personally don't want some asshat running around breaking the momentum of the game. I am not there to see some drunken idiot running around - I'm there to see a game. And a good point was made - how do you know it's not some whackadoo trying to take out one of the players? If you're stupid enough to take your chances by running out on a field - expect that you will be removed one way or another. |
Tuff crowd here I see. I dont believe in using any kind of weapons unless abolutely necessary.
Law enforcement and security folks used to be well schooled in how to diffuse potentially nasty situations. But, then again, those were the days when people respected the police/security. I can understand police/security resorting to devices to protect themselves in hostile situations tho. People are nuts these days. These tasers might come in handy at the beach this summer tho. Where do you buy them? |
Wait, he was an OFF DUTY cop? What the fuck was he doing just carrying his taser around with him? Did he have his gun and his billy club, too?
I don't know much about cops (because I don't trust them, so I like to pretend they don't exist), so I don't know if they are allowed/encouraged to carry that shit around them when they are off the clock - but it strikes me as inappropriate. Especially to a freaking sporting event. |
There can be such a fine line in considering where someone's "last resort" is.....no?
So I voted no. For Pete's sake....where are they gonna run TO? They're sorta stuck, aren't they, when they get out onto that field. I think ~ MY opinion ~ some are just a little bit Taser~Crazy, if You ask me. |
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Sometimes, off~duty cops work a gig like that for extra buckage. |
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That said, I think that it really depends upon the situation. Someone running out onto a sports field does not actually rise to the occasion in my book. There are other ways to get the person to desist. Now, if the situation is such that another life is on the line, then whatever force the police have at their disposal should be used. So if the kid ran onto the field with a knife and all that happens is that he gets hit with a taser then he should consider himself lucky. I think that armed officers (whether security guards or police) can be a little taser happy but I'm glad that they have a (generally) non-lethal way of stopping someone. And yes, I know that people do die from tasers however, given that the *next* level of escalation is a firearm, I'd rather unarmed but potentially violent perps be tased than be shot. |
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Off duty cops are allowed to carry weapons, and yes, some do take extra jobs (usually security-type) for some extra buckage. |
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Cheers Aj |
In Maryland, the off duty cops carry their weapons with them as well. |
Frankly it is a misuse of use of force. The kid may have run around for a bit, but the cop should not have used the taser. Wait him out or run after him and tackle him, or get some back up and catch him, but taser, nope uncalled for.
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Maybe if we put a taser device in both the batters box and pitchers mound, 4 hour baseball games will be a thing of the past. Just a thought.
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Vana'she picture this *We* are all at game night right? and some wacko runs through the Scrabble board KNOCKING everything over!! I would tase them for you <3 http://www.kidscape.org.uk/assets/co...aphics/zap.gif |
No tasing of minors. It's a damn ball game, not Congressional hearings.
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*jealous*
personally if i were a crazy ass baseball fan like that i would hope to be taken down by the taser...SCORE!!! *sometimes i get the feeling people wanna taser me on a plane, but that is a whole nother story* |
Double standard much?
They never tazed Morgana the Kissing Bandit now did they? |
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