I am a Lesbian/Man/Tman and I like Lesbians/Men/Transmen because....
 

This thread is a response to the "misogyny/sexism in BF community" thread that is currently struggling with hurt. I know there are other variations of struggle between other subsets of us...but today I want to say nice things about Tmen and Men....so that's what I am doin!

If you identify as a:

1) Lesbian (butch or femme)
And you have something great to say about the Transmen or Men in your life,

OR

if you identify as a
2) Transman
3) Man

And you have something you love about the Lesbians you know.....

Say it here!

I am putting this in the "Gender" umbrella as I didn't want to pick either the Lesbian zone or the Transgender zone.

I am a lesbian and I like men and transmen because....
 

their testosterone (if they have/take it) gives them big arm muscles and I have no qualms about needing big-arm-muscle people in my life.

And Kudos to the big muscles of non-testosterone taking Tmen, and butches (who almost all have bigger muscles than me).

I am a lesbian and I like men and transmen because....
 

they use fewer words to get their point across and that is the most giant relief when one hangs out with a buncha lesbians a lot of the time.

I am a lesbian and I like Tmen because....
 

(this one is about Tmen)

they are COMPLICATED, complex, an amalgem, they intrigue me greatly.

Thanks Corkey! Can you express something about what you love about her being a Lesbian? Something you like that is just...so, so....lesbian about her?

:bouquet:

I love it when Tmen go to lesbian-focused events and bravely and politely assert their right to be there.

I am a lesbian and I like men and transmen because....
 

they amuse me because they are so different from me.


[bonne -->:hippie: --> "WTF are you up to anyway?"] [ Tman/Man/boy/boi --->:toypony: "Whee!"]

Now I am editing my edits and don't have room.

I was saying that butches amuse me too, but I am trying here to make up for being a Y-chromosome hater in my distant past.

I was right. Waiting is hard.
:eatinghersheybar:

Thank you Corkey. Must take my own advice.
:eatinghersheybar:

and
:wine:

I am a man, and I love my best friend, who is a lesbian; she can organise a large group of people quickly, and get the show on the road, so the fun (fishing, hiking, party, pretty near anything,) can commence that much sooner.

You've already made up for it, Bonne—you of the beautiful countenance and heart. :)

I am a femme, a lesbian and I love other humans.

I happen to be in love with and married to a trans man, but not because he is a transman. It just happened that the human I fell for is a transman.

It's hard for me to couch an answer in what it is I love about a specific label, because no two transpeople that I know are exactly the same.

I will say that I appreciate it when a trans person wants to keep their Queer/Butch/Femme/Whatever roots and remain a part of the community.

I don't want to lose all the history and amazing people we have because they chose to transition, and I am incredibly grateful when people do not leave the community because of transition.

I know it's not easy sometimes.

I am also grateful when others make room for each other and change is accepted. Again, it's not always easy, but the pay off is immense.

I am a lesbian... and like SuperFemme, I have many Trans friends who are each unique and wonderful. I love how one transman friend of mine always has something nice to say about others... how another can get down on the grass with a group of children and completely occupy their attention for an hour. I love that another trans friend of mine tries so hard to please everyone around them AND is learning to do so without compromising hys own happiness.

I guess my point is that everyone I know has some wonderful quality about them.

I love MY trans because Hy is the most loving and caring person I have had in my life in a great many years. I love that Hy notices everything about me, that Hy is a cleaner, which compliments my organizer side. I love that Hy is happy in Hys own skin...

I think that this is what I love most about all my trans friends... that they are happy and content in who they are.

Oh yes, many lesbians I know are known for their organizational skills. The non-profit world wouldn't be the same without em.

I agree that it feels awkward to single out a group for why we like them. I had the desire to challenge myself to this (enjoyable) task, as a way to continue my own evolvement. Sometimes its good to really think about why it is that we like certain people. It can tell us something about ourselves, or about the ones we love. Thanks for your response SF.

I am a dyke who loves few people, there are transmen and guys who I have mad respect for in individual measures.

It's nothing physical, it's what kind of humans and beings they are with people and those around them. I admire their strength and am blessed for they are in my life.

I can say the same thing for my lesbian friends, I have mad respect for them, their passion, their inner strength the work they do etc etc.

I love few, I love the guy I am with because for the first time in my lifetime, I can be me and he likes it, appreciates it and he is just as fucking strong and sick as I am.

I love my lesbian sisters because I can rest my head upon their breast and just be and it's soothing and I like it. Some I love more than others and one I would give my right arm for....

I dunno if this is what you intended :|

This brought a smile to my face... I was the president of a lesbian group and my last function was a Christmas party with 30 or so lesbians... My trans man came and stood beside me showing his right to be there. He didnt quite want to be there... but he did it for me...

I hear what you are saying SF... I wasnt looking to fall in love with a trans man... But I fell head over heels with him... because he is loving, caring gentle, fierce, demanding, giving, protective.... everything I could ever want... I love him for who "he" is... I couldnt imagine life any different...

And I am too am glad when others make room for each other...

Great post...

I love your thread and the sentiments where it comes.

I am always up for evolving. In that process I try to participate on the level that am currently on, and I really hope that my response did not imply that this is not a fabulous thread.

Thank you for starting it.

I am a transman and try to except people for who and what they are, not by what or who they identify as or with. That being said :)

I love my godmother, who is a lesbian of a generation before mine.. She doesn't really get the trans thing and a couple of years ago, tried to talk me out of it and warned me that i was making a mistake.. Now, she is trying to understand and even asks me questions and is trying *really* hard to not call me by my birth name.

I admire her because she was in the Army in the 70's, later was captain in a police force in a semi-rural town on the coast of NC. I admire her struggles and her kindness. She was beside my mom and dad when I was born and helped choose my birth name with my dad. I love her history and the fact that she is still growing, just as I am.

That is some powerful stuff for me. She helped me when I came out as a lesbian.. Drove 6 hours to take me out to talk when my poor mom was freaking out. She isn't perfect, no one is, but she is the best human being she can be. That is what matters to me. She also happens to be a Lesbian.

-Tony

Snow, I intended for people to dwell on why they like, admire, or love other people. We seemed to specifically need some Tmen/Lesbian luv. Your post is dashing and wonderful and full of what we need. Thanks.

Tender Tony, How wonderful to have a lesbian grandmother. Thank you.

I know you, but im not getting "Male Butch", transgendered i understand. im not nit picking or calling you out, i just wasnt sure transgendered male/butch, i guess maybe im just not getting the butch part. Corkey, but its great to see ya'll around :)

Sam,so great you dropped in! What do you like or admire about the lesbians you know??? :tea: Or the men, or Tmen, or anybody really.

I am a transman who treasures his queer identity and will never give it up. I like and admire lesbians for their tremendous courage and the paths they have forged for our entire community. My closest lesbian friend, Susan, has been out and proud for over 30 years. She brings a rich history, amazing political and social insights, a keen eye for bullshit and a sharp tongue for "-ism's".

Thank you for your comment and for this thread.. However, i just want to be clear, it was my Godmother, not my grandmother.. Both of my grandmothers didn't care for my godmother, since she is a person of color.. My maternal grandmother was a lot better with it then my adoptive paternal grandmother, who i don't really have a lot of good things to say about.

In any case :) Thank you for your comment on my post, I look forward to more positive thoughts and words here to come.

-Tony

lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject. but im a transguy, and i like and get along wonderfull with femme's of any nature.

this is a great thread. great reading.

Weird response.

I will count myself as confused then, as the purpose of this thread.......oh, silly me. You can read. The purpose of this thread is clearly stated at the beginning.

You get along with femmes of the lesbian nature? How grand. :koolaid:

just left wondering why I wouldn't care for your opinion then.....

your opinion of course.

differences of opinions from all walks of life Bent. you keep yours, i will keep mine.

:hippie: I love these gents. Fellows, you're always welcome in my thread! Let's hear why you love lesbians. I am sure Sam would like to hear! :tea:

Not all femme women consider themselves "lesbian"

that was all i meant.

*sighs and ducks and covers*

here is comes, folks.. hold on to your asses..