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"Becoming Chaz"
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Awesome. I can't wait to see this. I'm marking my calendar as a reminder this will be on.
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I'm looking forward to watching this -
I am saddened at Cher's attitude - As Chaz's Mother one would think she would embrace changes that would make her son feel complete. |
What I find interesting is that almost every Drag Queen in America wants to be her and she has no problem with that. Yet, her son wants to be himself and she has a problem with that...Perhaps it has to do with the lime light now being on Chaz instead of her?
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Please note that Cher is going though an adjustment too. Chaz summed it up when he said "It's hard for moms." i think she is being open minded and supportive; she merely stated her preference for this to be done privately and her concerns for her child's health.
Remember we will get a better understanding of things when the show airs and we can see the comments in context rather than the clips and sound bites put together for the preview. |
Think about this.....
Have you ever been with someone and they always got Chocolate Ice cream (never anything else) So you always bought them Choc. One day she tells you to get Vanilla and you "QUESTION" the vanilla choice and then ask all the questions such as.. What Why? Why Change after all this time? and so on........ Not a big deal, but some of us make it a big deal. Doesn't seem like a very big deal to be "questioning" something to trivial now does it? Chaz has had his whole life to "think about this" Cher has only had a few years... How long did it take Chaz to figure out he was going to transition? He certainly didn't decide this over night. Cher certainly can't decide over night about her feelings either. I can't imagine what mom's go through, it can't be easy knowing she raised a daughter her entire life and now that child wants to be a man. They need time to adjust and adapt as well. Some take as much time it took the person to transition. I can't bash on Cher for that. She is open minded I think she will come around. Just my two cents.... |
I would also like to add....
BRAVO to Chaz for being brave enough to step in front of the camera's to shed some light on this subject and bring awareness to the trans community!! |
I really wish I could watch the whole show ,but I dont get that chanel,it wil be intresting to watch for shure.
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Thank you for sharing this link! I had heard about it, but not much! That is sooo amazing!!! But why the Oprah Network tho?!?!?!
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I think I am going to be forced to watch OWN. But I am glad it'll be on. One of the things I think is hurting Cher the most is that as Chaz transitions he looks more and more like his father.
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To me it don't matter what network it is... It's on!! It's the only network I 'm sure that would take it on. |
It should be interesting to watch. |
It is really hard to listen to Cher call him, "she/her", but I have an understanding of how hard it is for families who have known you as one thing for XX number of years to shift their thinking.
I watch My family struggle, too. I hope she opens herself to a deeper understanding of her son. ~Elijah |
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T and I are excited about watching the show as well. We have emailed our families with the date and network information. I hope the show helps my family, especially my birth mom, have a better understanding of what T went through on his own journey. (f) |
BUMP... reminder... tomorrow night 9:00 PM EST on OWN network.. also, just before it at 8:00 is Our America with Lisa Ling focusing on the lives of five transgendered people.
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Oh ty Jess for the reminder!!! It will be a great show.
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NP :) Caught most of the interview on Oprah this afternoon. Very well done.
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I just finished watching Chaz and his girlfriend on Oprah today. It was really good . They seem sweet , wish they could come to the reunion.
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Ohhhhhhhhh wonderful idea!!!!!!! Heck stranger things have happened. They may be all for it. Who knows huh. |
Bleargh...apparently it was playing at the Bell Lightbox last night only and I had no fucking idea. Why did they have to make it one night only? I would have gone had I known.
Anyways, now looks like I gotta wait for it to make its way to the internet... |
I herd that Chaz sgoing to be on Piers Morgan tonight,if so it will be on at 11:00pm my time...gonna stay up and check,with the crazyness going on since my son crashed his motorcycle I never thought t check on Oprah thia afternoon.
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As my own mother put it "you were my little girl. I dressed you up and made curls in your hair. You'll always be my little girl", etc. And it sounds too, this is very similar to how Cher feels/felt about Chastity. It's very difficult for a mom to let go of that part of her own self and the bond she has with her daughter, and allow us to be who we are. At nearly 60yo I'm struggling with this with my own mom. People are who they are and feel what they feel, and that's just who they/we are. It is what it is, and that's what we have to deal with, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day. Just my opinion of course, and sometimes it's not an easy opinion to live with. |
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As for Cher's reaction.... as other stated, it an adjustment. I remember talking a friend once who just discovered her son was gay. She was sadden by it and I asked her why, since she was also queer. She wasn't sad over his lifestyle choice but the difficult life he might have in today's world. Even today gays are treated unfairly and let's face it, being queer is not the easiest choice, but we have no choice, right? She was fearful of him getting hurt, killed by ignorant idiots and having to fight so hard for love. Can you imagine how fearful a mother of a transgendered child? OMG I can be the most openminded person in the world, want my child to be happy but I also want them safe. I'm sure the reaction was knee jerk and she learns to love chaz as he is, accepting and even embracing who he is. |
HI all,
I really want to see this. If anyone knows of an online channel I can view this please post it. I tried all my friends and know body has this channel. :( |
i get that people react differently but she has all the time in the world -- and the resources. She can find out about T. She doesn't have to "not know."
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I spent the whole documentary worrying what Jenny was going to do next that would be embarrassing for Chaz to have on film. I think I was projecting my own anxiety onto Chaz...the anxiety I had with my crazy first girlfriend when we were in public (she was QUITE "Jenny like").
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I wish them both the best. Still want someone to invite them to the reunion though. |
I would imagine Cher is grieving the loss of her only daughter, even tho she's gained a son (which she always had but never knew). She's also concerned as a parent of all the health ramifications that taking T could potentially have. It's going to take time for her to adjust just as it will for all his family, friends etcetcetc. But I'm sure the more Chazz becomes more comfortable and more happy being his true self and she sees this that she will also become happy for him and more accepting of his decision. Give her time to grieve her loss, she'll come around just as most of his close circle will. He understands that as well, he's handling it quite well.
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If you don't get the OWN network or you missed it you can go to the following link tomorrow and will find a link there to watch it online.
http://www.oprah.com/own |
I thought it admirable of both Jen and Chaz that they shared their relationship struggles, as well as Jen's struggles with sobriety.
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I thought the show was wonderful. Brought up a few issues in my own life that I guess I nev realized. The biggie was when Chaz talked about how he hate photos. Im the same way, and just realized it WAS bc I hated the way I looked, and didnt want to be seen/remembered in a female body. I hav as many pics of me from last 2 yrs as, I hav of my whole life. I applaud him for allowing us all to share in his journey. |
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I just watched it. Very nice that it was open, honest and wasn't just the positive or fairy tale aspects. Granted, it's still from a public person's view it's still one of the better documentaries on trans guys I've seen.
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It's on here now...Awesome
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Fantastic documentary!! Thanks to Chaz and Jen for opening up to the public. It took a lot of courage, on both of their parts, to expose themselves as they did in the film AND as they do in the aftermath of the film. Thanks to Oprah for stepping outside of the "mainstream" box and providing a safe, comfortable space for the airing of this film. I laughed, I cried and I celebrated!!
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I really enjoyed the show!!
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I liked the documentary; while I did not issue press releases or ask that my transition be filmed, I related to Chaz a great deal. I particularly enjoyed the interview with Rosie O'Donnell, which followed "Becoming Chaz."
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Like Scubadyke said, "I laughed, I cried, I celebrated"!
I applaud Chaz for allowing the mainstream media to follow his transition and being able to show people a transgender familiar face. The documentary was open, honest and well done. I like the way they portrayed not only Chaz's transition, but his loved ones transition, too. *Ok, I'm gonna go ahead and say it, those damn hairless cats freaked me out!* |
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