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*Anya* 09-04-2011 07:28 AM

Women-identified Lesbians Loving/Living with other Woman-identified Lesbians
 
I would like this thread to be for woman-identified lesbians that date/love/live/fuck; other woman-identified lesbians.

Do you have issues of concern involving our own lives ( that do not relate to any other thread already on the planet)?

Single? Difficulty finding a lesbian community with other lesbians?

A wonderful, supportive community of woman-identified lesbians?

Do tell....

*Anya* 09-04-2011 09:01 AM

Ok, I will dive in...
 
I live in suburbia. Very suburbia. I live in a neighborhood surrounded by families with 2.5 children and mom & dad. There is one house within blocks of me with a rainbow flag.

Not the best choice for a single lesbian.

I don't like living in the heart of the city either. My youngest daughter & her family live in the heart of LA. I used to be able to drive to LA in the carpool lane with my Hybrid Honda until the CA legislature just took away the carpool lane stickers they gave us 5-years ago for buying a hybrid (thanks you fuckers), so last time I went to see her on a Saturday, it took me 1.5 hours on the freeway to drive about 30-minutes!

The heart of the city does have a lesbian community but not much of a butch-femme lesbian community. When I retire, if I am still single (oh god, please no), I will sell my house and move to an area not in the big city but with more of a lesbian presence.

How have the rest of you managed to find a place that you feel that you belong and that still has a vibrant lesbian community?

(Please note, this post says zero about separatism-so please do not go there!)

lettertodaddy 09-04-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Anya/Georgia (Post 411450)
Single? Difficulty finding a lesbian community with other lesbians?

This is me in a nutshell. Just about all of the lesbians I know are partnered off. I don't like feeling like a fifth wheel, they don't seem to know any singles. I'm lucky I work in a place where not only are there a lot of lesbians, but most people tend to be queer-supportive, but I really wish I had a queer community that I could feel like I was a part of.

Right now the Planet fills that need for me.

Medusa 09-04-2011 09:43 AM

If I were not already partnered, the prospects of dating here in Arkansas would be abysmal, not because there aren't a ton of Lesbians here but more because many of the Lesbians here don't fall into the "Butch as Identity" category. (my primary desire)

It was difficult to meet people even at the Lesbian club in Little Rock because my appearance drew a lot of suspicion with folks who didn't understand that skirt and makeup didn't mean "straight woman has entered the wrong club".

The thing I have found is that when the local Lesbos figure out that I am "safe" (partnered), they tend to be much more friendly. I've made a lot of good friends but we are pretty spread out so it takes a little effort to get together. Most of my closest friends can be found here on this site :)

Toughy 09-04-2011 10:40 AM

I live in Oakland.....the city with the highest number of lesbians per capita in this country. I have not been able to find anyone I want to date in a very long time. There are lots of b/f folks around here. I co-founded an active B/F Social group. There is community here.

Part of my problem has to do with age. If I wanted to date someone in the age range of my nieces/nephews (their 30s) it would be easy, but I can't do that.....it does not work for me......I tried it. The differences are profound.

So lack of dating opportunities is not always about where you live.

lettertodaddy 09-04-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Toughy (Post 411527)
Part of my problem has to do with age. If I wanted to date someone in the age range of my nieces/nephews (their 30s) it would be easy, but I can't do that.....it does not work for me......I tried it. The differences are profound.

I'm finding this to be a challenge as well. I don't know how much of it is real, or how much of it is in my own head, however. On paper there doesn't seem to be much difference between 35 and 43, but in my head, and in terms of where we are in our lives, there's a lot of difference. And I find that difference difficult to overcome.

*Anya* 09-04-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toughy (Post 411527)
I live in Oakland.....the city with the highest number of lesbians per capita in this country. I have not been able to find anyone I want to date in a very long time. There are lots of b/f folks around here. I co-founded an active B/F Social group. There is community here.

Part of my problem has to do with age. If I wanted to date someone in the age range of my nieces/nephews (their 30s) it would be easy, but I can't do that.....it does not work for me......I tried it. The differences are profound.

So lack of dating opportunities is not always about where you live.

Toughy, is that the good news/bad news, lol?!

I wondered about that too, though just very recently started putting myself out there.

It is flattering to get a pm from a 39-40 year-old but there is a difference between being in your late 50's and someone 40... Like almost the age of my daughters and that gets into the creepy zone for me!

What is the answer then? Dating sites for lesbians? As I posted previously, there are women my age on them but they are full of femmes. I love my femme sisters but they don't ring my chimes in the same way butches do.

Where are all the butch lesbians my age? You can't all be paired up, can you?

WolfyOne 09-04-2011 12:22 PM

I think I live in an area that is quite closeted when it comes to being OUT. I am single and older. Most of the lesbians I see around here are either too young or butch like myself. Maybe as I age, I just can't spot the femmes around here. Perhaps my gaydar is off, I don't know. I do think as we age, it's harder to find someone in or around your age group that isn't already partnered. For myself, I see one more move in my future, but it still won't put me in a place that has an older lesbian community or perhaps I should say an older lesbian community that is visible to my eyes. I don't need a huge community to be happy in life. All I really need is a partner that wants to share the same space as me in an area that is just gorgeous. I'm not in a hurry as I have other things to tend to first to get to where I need to be. Right now I have The Planet and it fills the emptiness I feel some days. I have some really good friends from here that have helped me through some trying times. As for me, I'm always looking forward to what a new day brings.

Toughy 09-04-2011 01:21 PM

My 16 yr relationship had an almost 9 years difference and that was not hard for me. She was around 25 and I was around 34 when we first got together. Funny thing was I met her at her college graduation party...she was 21 and I knew it was love at first sight.....<grin>. However I told her she had to be 25 before we ever got serious, plus she had a girlfriend at the time. 4 years later and living in different cities it became serious. Our age range stayed the same however she was 4 years older.....made a difference.

I'm 59 and mid 40's is the very very low end of my acceptable range. I have no upper limit. I dated a woman 20 years younger once and I doubt I would do it again. I've also dated about 6 years older.

I once heard you have to put yourself in a target-rich enviornments. Which means getting out of the house and doing things like museums (they all have free days), street fairs, concerts in the park, church/mosque/synagogue (yes I said that...... laughin) places and things you like to do, .....oh yeah......we all know when you quit look it shows up....

Anya......move to Long Beach darling and get your daughter to come to you....my understanding of So Cal is all the dykes are in LB and all the L word types are in LA.....laughin....

sweetfemme247 09-04-2011 01:28 PM

Well I have lived in washington for 5 years now, not much of a lesbian scene in everett, seattle yes, but most of them are older then me and they dont want to date someone who is 25. Though I am going to school to be a nurse and such they still think of me as a partier(which I have never even been to a club) sad....... I am moving back to california in 7 days. Palm springs has alot of gays, not many lesbians.. I was raised in california and we will see where things go.

ArkansasPiscesGrrl 09-04-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 411500)
If I were not already partnered, the prospects of dating here in Arkansas would be abysmal, not because there aren't a ton of Lesbians here but more because many of the Lesbians here don't fall into the "Butch as Identity" category. (my primary desire)

It was difficult to meet people even at the Lesbian club in Little Rock because my appearance drew a lot of suspicion with folks who didn't understand that skirt and makeup didn't mean "straight woman has entered the wrong club".

The thing I have found is that when the local Lesbos figure out that I am "safe" (partnered), they tend to be much more friendly. I've made a lot of good friends but we are pretty spread out so it takes a little effort to get together. Most of my closest friends can be found here on this site :)


Medusa, your post just was exactly what I needed to hear....NOT! LOL No, seriously, I kinda knew that when I moved here from south FL, it was going to be a much different feel for me. I had a large network of lesbian friends, in the Recovery area (we had a couple of large lesbian AA meetings there), in the leather community, and a much more OPEN attitude. I was partnered with a butch woman, and though I wasn't involved with a specific b/f social group, there were plenty of couples who fit that dynamic.

When I had decided to move here, my sponsor encouraged me to come and "find my tribe", in other words to put myself out there to find other lesbians. I mean, I do have my bio family here, my kids and grandkids. I have people that I have gotten to know in the recovery life. My family, my recovery, my work, all seem to keep me busy and keeps my focus away from the fact that once again I am single (and NOT liking it!)

Frankly, the whole idea of dating, of putting myself "out there" is intimidating. There is such a self-perceived notion that "everyone is staying in the closet" or "everyone is already partnered" or no one would accept me or want me because "_______(age,size,age,past,age, etc)" LOL

So what i think I want to do is just hopefully just make friends. Friends to hang with, to go to movies with, to dinner, to go fishing with, things like that. If something ever comes from that, that would be wonderful, but in the meantime I won't have felt that lonely sick "OMG I will die ALONE" tape that plays in my head sometimes!

When I met my last gf, and we were spending that lovely "getting to know you" time, it was wonderful! I wonder if I will feel and experience that again.

bigbutchmistie 09-04-2011 04:36 PM

I have been single for years. And it seems to me here in Big D that its pretty much girly girls on girly girls. I hear alot that butch women arent what they seek. Even going to clubs from time to time I hear that. How crazy is that living in Big D ? LOL

paintedleofemme 09-04-2011 05:01 PM

I feel the pain!
 
I live in central Washington. the city that I live in has an ok gay community but its just that, gay, not really lesbian. Here in Yakima its mostly butch on butch love or older lesbians who are at a different place in time than me, or butches who are into drugs or open relationships, it makes it hard.

sanee66 09-04-2011 05:27 PM

medusa said If I were not already partnered, the prospects of dating here in Arkansas would be abysmal, not because there aren't a ton of Lesbians here but more because many of the Lesbians here don't fall into the "Butch as Identity" category. (my primary desire)
The thing I have found is that when the local Lesbos figure out that I am "safe" (partnered), they tend to be much more friendly


same boat here, even just wanting a butch or trans friend, cant find them, i cant believe they are all taken, sometimes i think they are more sensitive than us femmes, and once they have been hurt, they will not come out again lol

sweetiefemme 09-04-2011 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by paintedleofemme (Post 411767)
I live in central Washington. the city that I live in has an ok gay community but its just that, gay, not really lesbian. Here in Yakima its mostly butch on butch love or older lesbians who are at a different place in time than me, or butches who are into drugs or open relationships, it makes it hard.

Hello Painted, I am on the same side of WA as you, nice to meet you.

I don't think there is a gay/lesbian community where I live. :(
The few people I know in town are my ex and her friends, so leaves me with nothing. I however come from Eugene OR, and I have to say there is a good mix of gay/lesbians there for a smaller city, and the straight people are very open minded.

*Anya* 09-04-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetiefemme (Post 411800)
I however come from Eugene OR, and I have to say there is a good mix of gay/lesbians there for a smaller city, and the straight people are very open minded.

Small world, my 1st love, a femme, moved to Eugene after we split. There was a thriving lesbian community last time I visited her there but it has been a while so that may have changed.

kissinfemme 09-04-2011 07:54 PM

I'm from a small, very conservative, right wing "church" town (there are 153 churches here) & there is no "open" lgbt community where I live at all.... Butch women? Forget it! I think my ex is the only butch in town.

For any type of lgbt atmosphere I have to travel at least 3 hours... I live for gay pride in June to get my fill till the next summer.... so I finally decided to do something in my own town.... I started a PFLAG chapter here in the hopes of stimulating (no pun intended) the lgbt community & to some degree has worked... with the younger crowd. If there are available butch women in this town, around my age, they're hiding out & I don't appreciate it! lol In the year we've been around we've had our first prom, which was fabulous but mostly young kids.... in October we're having a Masquerade Ball, hopefully more adults will turn out... it's important that we know we're not alone here or in this life, especially our life.

kissinfemme
:lips:

CherylNYC 09-04-2011 08:41 PM

The bad news is that I haven't been finding many butch women that fit my criteria, either. I live in NYC, so like Toughy I'm thirsty in an oasis. It seems to be hard to find partners everywhere, but I'm really grateful for a thriving lgbt community. I try not to take that for granted.

NorCalStud 09-04-2011 09:54 PM

If u are in santa rosa , albuq, or gallup. Im passing thru tomorrow

Toughy 09-04-2011 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by paintedleofemme (Post 411767)
I live in central Washington. the city that I live in has an ok gay community but its just that, gay, not really lesbian. Here in Yakima its mostly butch on butch love or older lesbians who are at a different place in time than me, or butches who are into drugs or open relationships, it makes it hard.

I'm so sorry you live in Yakima...........move........I say move and move now!!!!

By the way............what does open relationship mean to you? when do you decided it's a closed relationship.........

Toughy 09-04-2011 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kissinfemme (Post 411885)
I'm from a small, very conservative, right wing "church" town (there are 153 churches here) & there is no "open" lgbt community where I live at all.... Butch women? Forget it! I think my ex is the only butch in town.

For any type of lgbt atmosphere I have to travel at least 3 hours... I live for gay pride in June to get my fill till the next summer.... so I finally decided to do something in my own town.... I started a PFLAG chapter here in the hopes of stimulating (no pun intended) the lgbt community & to some degree has worked... with the younger crowd. If there are available butch women in this town, around my age, they're hiding out & I don't appreciate it! lol In the year we've been around we've had our first prom, which was fabulous but mostly young kids.... in October we're having a Masquerade Ball, hopefully more adults will turn out... it's important that we know we're not alone here or in this life, especially our life.

kissinfemme
:lips:

Where in NM? I was born and raised in lovington........

kissinfemme 09-04-2011 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Toughy (Post 411945)
Where in NM? I was born and raised in lovington........

Roswell....

kissinfemme 09-04-2011 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCalStud (Post 411932)
If u are in santa rosa , albuq, or gallup. Im passing thru tomorrow


None of the above :( I live in Roswell...

Toughy 09-04-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kissinfemme (Post 411946)
Roswell....

I assume you mean RosHell......:|...

however you do have to admit the craftsman homes are stunning...........I only have to go to parts of Alameda CA and I think I am in Roswell..........

Toughy 09-05-2011 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kissinfemme (Post 411949)
None of the above :( I live in Roswell...

It's a max 3 hr drive to the I-40 Santa Rosa truck stop or Clines Corners.......the drive is beautiful..............come on.........it's a nice drive .............ya might have fun

just saying............

kissinfemme 09-05-2011 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Toughy (Post 411966)
I assume you mean RosHell......:|...

however you do have to admit the craftsman homes are stunning...........I only have to go to parts of Alameda CA and I think I am in Roswell..........

Lol, yes RosHell!!! This place sucks & I can't wait to leave it! :bow: And as soon as I figure out where my next adventure begins, I'm outa here!

Chazz 09-05-2011 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anya/Georgia (Post 411450)
I would like this thread to be for woman-identified lesbians that date/love/live/fuck; other woman-identified lesbians.

Butch lesbian, here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anya/Georgia (Post 411450)
Do you have issues of concern involving our own lives ( that do not relate to any other thread already on the planet)?

Yes....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anya/Georgia (Post 411450)
Single? Difficulty finding a lesbian community with other lesbians?

A wonderful, supportive community of woman-identified lesbians?

Do tell....

Through effort and some luck, I have been fortunate to cultivate a relatively large community of woman identified lesbians.

I live midway between NYC and Albany, in a suburban-rural area a few miles from Woodstock, NY. This area has been a hotbed of lesbian Feminist politics for a generation. I've formerly resided here for many years, though I've also lived abroad, on and off, for seven years.

There is a local LGBTQ Center in a nearby "city" about six miles from my home. I am an active member of a lesbian women's group (about 200+ women) that meets there twice a month. The group draws women from a four county area; approximately 30-50 women attend any given meeting. There is also a revolving pot luck get together that meets once a month at different women's homes. We party, recreate, picnic, hike, read books together, and organize excursions of all kinds. I'm blessed to know these women. We have similar politiks.

I'm also an active member of the 12 Step Community. I have close lesbian, gay, straight friends from that community.

I belong to a Harley motorcycle club. We ride and party together.

I'm single, but dating. One woman I'm dating lives in central New Jersey. She has a nice lesbian community, too.

I feel absolutely awful for lesbian women who live in isolation. Come stay at my house, I'll introduce you around.

Starbuck 09-19-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetfemme247 (Post 411605)
Well I have lived in washington for 5 years now, not much of a lesbian scene in everett, seattle yes, but most of them are older then me and they dont want to date someone who is 25. Though I am going to school to be a nurse and such they still think of me as a partier(which I have never even been to a club) sad....... I am moving back to california in 7 days. Palm springs has alot of gays, not many lesbians.. I was raised in california and we will see where things go.

Good luck hon!

starryeyes 09-19-2011 05:52 PM

I live in San Diego, and there is a thriving gay community here. We have a gay town, we call "The Gayborhood" or "The Hilly" which is called Hillcrest. There are some pretty awesome places for lesbians to go here, we have bars, social clubs and a very active meet-up.com group that have weekly activities for lesbians of all ages.

Now, when it comes to Butch-femme? Not so much. I have hosted a few meet-up events, and had a speed dating event, but when I advertised them as "butch/femme" I pretty much got my head chewed off. I met my current girlfriend on the dash site (Thank goodness for the internet!!). I dated a few girls that I met in my community, but none of them appreciated a Femme. Mostly when I go out, I am thought of a straight or a fag-hag, which stinks.

I know they are out there, but I haven't found my BF community in San Diego. I have one lesbian friend who identifies as Femme, but the rest ID as Lesbian.

I hope to some day find a BF community in my area and be able to have closer relationships with people who subscribe to the same ideas I do!! Until then, I love this site for resources and meeting people!!

:-D
Starry

JAGG 09-19-2011 07:18 PM

Well that's what we have mostly in Tulsa. Almost all are what I call burkenstock lesbians, or andro lesbians. They aren't butch or femme and don't have a clue what butch femme dynamics are . And are even insulted by it. But that's what most my friends are. I guess if I wasn't ok with it I wouldn't have any friends. hahaha To each his own. But it does bug me when someone says, you should grow your hair out. Or suggest more female style of clothes. They think if you have short hair or wear hats that makes you butch. HAHAHAHA NO CLUE!!!!!! They have no exposure and no interest in it. They are happy in their andro burkenstock world and good for them. They can share wardrobes and shoes and even make-up , pluck each others eyebrows, you know burkenstock bonding moments . It's special.:eek:

*Anya* 09-19-2011 07:29 PM

Lol Jagg!

In LA we have a lot of lipstick lesbians!

clay 09-19-2011 07:38 PM

hey Jaggy...you are so darn funny! Love your humor dude!
LA Lisptick lesbians...whoohoo....love them!

JAGG 09-19-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Anya/Georgia (Post 421201)
Lol Jagg!

In LA we have a lot of lipstick lesbians!

hahah yes we do too. Lipstick lesbians and burkenstocks make up 95 percent of female gay population here. The only butches you see are usually butch on butch. They look like twinkies too. Dress alike , same hair style, same style cars. hahahaha Whatever floats your boat. Just please don't call them butch , it makes my ribs hurt from laughing so much.

*Anya* 09-19-2011 07:57 PM

LA Lipstick lesbians do not always identify as femme and frequently date each other, not butches.

It gets very confusing sometimes.

JAGG 09-19-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by claybabytwo (Post 421211)
hey Jaggy...you are so darn funny! Love your humor dude!
LA Lisptick lesbians...whoohoo....love them!

Thanks I'm glad you like it!!!

Julie 09-19-2011 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAGG (Post 421194)
Well that's what we have mostly in Tulsa. Almost all are what I call burkenstock lesbians, or andro lesbians. They aren't butch or femme and don't have a clue what butch femme dynamics are .

They think if you have short hair or wear hats that makes you butch. HAHAHAHA NO CLUE!!!!!! They have no exposure and no interest in it. They are happy in their andro burkenstock world and good for them. They can share wardrobes and shoes and even make-up , pluck each others eyebrows, you know burkenstock bonding moments . It's special.:eek:

I wear Birkenstocks.
I have short hair.
I don't pluck dreamers eyebrows.
Though, every once in awhile, I see a stray toe hair and i PULL IT!

What am I?

*Anya* 09-19-2011 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie (Post 421238)
I wear Birkenstocks.
I have short hair.
I don't pluck dreamers eyebrows.
Though, every once in awhile, I see a stray toe hair and i PULL IT!

What am I?

Julie you are a femme! (f)

Julie 09-19-2011 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Anya/Georgia (Post 421241)
Julie you are a femme! (f)

I was getting worried there Anya - all that birkenstock androgyny talk!

JAGG 09-19-2011 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julie (Post 421238)
I wear Birkenstocks.
I have short hair.
I don't pluck dreamers eyebrows.
Though, every once in awhile, I see a stray toe hair and i PULL IT!

What am I?

Why you are the kindest sweetest prettiest femme on the planet, but you already knew that. hahah Also I'd like to add , My your hair looks nice today.

JAGG 09-19-2011 08:48 PM

Did it work? I'm I in the clear?
Ps thanks for the heads up Dapper lol


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