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Femme C*ck
I'm curious to learn more about the esoteric femme cock. I use the word esoteric because I don't know much about it. It's a mystery to me. Is it generally expressed in the same mechanical way as butch and trans cock? Is it a common sexual practice in your relationships? .....
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I'm not exactly sure. I'm not really a butch (lol) so I can't exactly compare the two experiences. My partners... most of them have asked for it, including the men, so it's been received well. Common? yeah, I'd say it was common. Often? depends on the person. It's pretty average and garden variety bog standard in terms of desire. It's never suprised me or taken me unawares. There's a ton of nerves in there (front and back) and it feels good to a hell of a lot of people. It's not necessarily a "feminising act" - I've screwed enough femmes, butches (of various qualitative ID), men and TG with mine to note the variety of differences in how masculine it can feel (not me, but them). Screwing a guy up the ass does not make him a girl. Niether does sliding a cock in his mouth. So, for me, screwing any aparature does not feminise automatically. It depends on who own the fissure. lol.
And it can be womanly, without being girly/feminine too. |
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I do think it comes with a stigma of judgements that either this community or the outsides community see as how do I say this: EWWWWWWWWWy. It's not commonly thought of as hot, as a matter of fact once I do try to open dialogue with peoples about it I can get reactions that go from: Eyes wide and mouth open agape The wrinkled up nose like you are smelling shit look The words: THAT AIN'T RIGHT There's no way I am letting anyone take away my masculinity That's gross Ewww why would a butch/ftm EVER want that done that's femme thing I could never be with a butch/ftm if they wanted their privates touched that would seem girly to me I could go on and on about the things a Femme has to hear about her Femme cock and on top of that what we have to hear about the people we fuck or who like to be fucked by Femme Cock, examples are: Ewww a butch in the streets femme in the sheets Wow you managed to flip them THAT AIN'T RIGHT, NO REAL BUTCH/FTM would want that done FUCK NO there's only one cock in THIS relationship Wow that is so girly that he/hy/she likes that That's QUEER! Femme Cock, that's just silly and awkward and LMAO! Femme Cock is not accepted here and out there like butch.ftm.man.guy.male.masculine.manly.boy. cock is it's not seen as right or normal. It's deemed as emasculating, flipping, girly turning, gross, not right, silly, awkward, less than, certainly not virile and strong like the above ID's are seen. I honestly feel that sexism and misogyny gets brought into our LGBTQ sex. Femme on Femme is HOT Butch on Butch - not so hot and what a waste Femme Cock pretty much the same, I can't tell you how many times I watch someone treat the person I am with as less than because of my cock and that's funny to me because femme's don't get treated as less than because of the butch/ftm cock that is penetrating them. Penetration is meant for women only, femmes, fags, queer, sissies, girly men, girly boys. Sound familiar? It should it's down right fucking heteronormative and that drips into our communities because for some unknown reason Femme Cock makes people uncomfy. We may not talk a lot of smut, and that's ok with me because some smut can't be handled. ;) |
Cock is hot. End of story. Whether it's stemming from a femme, butch, FTM, Transguy, MTF, or any other flavor of identity and presentation in our community.
Now, I do admit that it's a little harder for me to take a pink, sparkly cock seriously. Thankfully, none of my partners have sported one. That's not to say that I wouldn't or couldn't watch someone else get fucked by one. By all means, the voyeur in me would be more than happy to watch someone get fucked by any appendage of any color, shape, style, etc. I just cannot break through the mindset that that would be something I could pleasure myself with and not something my partners would yield. That's my shit and I do own that. BUT I am certainly not going to tell someone how to run their fuck. If a pink, sparkly cock rocks their world, more power to them. If they like a blue dolphin up the ass, good for them. It's not my place to dictate someone else's pleasure. I'd go off on them for doing it to me and so, I offer the respect I seek from others. As far as being fucked by someone's cock minimizing masculinity and somehow increasing or creating femininity in someone, I call bullshit. If I can get praised for being a good girl for taking it all, I'm sure there are boys out there who can, do and/or have received the same praise. That doesn't make them any less boy or more girl. It makes them a very good boy who can take a lot of cock. Same for butches, FTMs, Transguys, and so on. What makes someone masculine or feminine is inside them. Well, granted, a cock would probably be inside them, but that's not what I mean. It's intrinsic to them. They know their flow and I think it's sad that such a small outside force could shake that within them. I don't connect with femme cock the way others do. I suppose my clit is my cock in certain situations, but it's not something that clicks in my head. No 'aha' moment there. Have I fucked someone with a cock? Yes. Was it magical or fantastic? Eh, not really. Did they get off? Yes. Did I? No. It was awkward for me, although I did get the hang of it pretty quickly. Would it be nice to watch someone suck me off? Sure. Every once in a blue moon, that appeals to me. Do I ever have the urge to really fuck someone? Yes, but it has absolutely nothing to do with my connection to femme cock and everything to do with my desire for vengeance and control and muddling through my childhood issues. I can't tell you the number of times I've had what equates to a prison yard trist in my head when I learn of particular cases of children being exploited and hurt. But like I said, that has absolutely nothing to do with a connection to my femme cock. It's strictly about me wanting to hurt those fuckers as much as or more than they hurt some kids. Tit for tat, if you will. |
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I wanted to piggy back off Gemme's post for a second:
Pink glittery cocks are not what this particular femme uses I am pretty connected to mine and it fits my needs and my body. :) I do have a few other appendages that I like and use I have to say none have glitter or are colorful. |
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So, are other body parts (tongue, fingers, etc) considered femme cock if it's used for penetration? Do you call it your cock or do you prefer other names? Side note: I used to live with one of my good friends who is butch, along with our girlfriends. My X was very vocal. If we engaged in any type of extracurricular activity our roommates were fully aware of it. Our sexual activities created a domino effect. Right after we finished, they would start up. Their love making sounds were always a little louder and lasted a little longer. Sometimes they would knock on our door to show us one of their sexual devices. It was a little weird. Years later, I was talking about it with my butch friend's X girlfriend. I made some comment like, "dang girl, you've got some pipes on you." She said you don't really know what was going on. I said, so enlighten me. She said that was Lori (butch friend) making all the sounds. She said it was always her servicing, fucking Lori. I asked why she would lie or give the impression that it was the other way around. She said Lori told her that she was not going to have Kannon (me) out do her. That's when I realized that this may be much common than I know. A lot of butches, FTM's, Trans, etc...don't want to cop to it because they fear others will think less of them. Personally, I don't think any differently of Lori or anyone else that gets serviced. I use serviced for lack of a better word. |
Kannon, lol, I get my car serviced! You mean fucked, right?
Just checking.... :) |
I don't view sex as a service unless it's in that specific dynamic. It's sex, and sex feels good, my phantom appendage will be attached when I am entering the person and I guess you could say it's an energy flow that is being passed on through the act of penetration. When I am entering it's all of me entering it's not tied specifically to whatever. I'm assuming it's like that for butches and ftm's it flows regardless of what one is using.
Make sense? |
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They are doing all the physical work. And, I used it in the context of my x friend who was serviced in many other ways by her girlfriends. That's a long and laborious story. Getting fucked is another good, appropriate word. :) |
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I know you're not saying that I said this, but I honestly did mean to make mention of it somewhere and just plum forgot. Femme cock does not equate fancy, sparkly prettily colored cocks. They can be all sizes, shapes, colors, and styles. I've seen femme cocks larger and more bulbous than most of the butch cock I've been privy to. Quote:
I run into this misconception a lot when folks learn I'm a Stone femme. That's all. Oh, Anya/Georgia....when I read that, the very first image that came to mind was a femme being hoisted high on one of those thingies they have in the shop. lol |
I have an incredible cock and I know how to use it and I am not afraid to pull it out and slam it on the table for all of you to look at and admire....
I have gotten positive remarks from butches, btw, that I am a femme who dons a cock and uses it freely without shame. I dont know if any of them would want a femme with a cock but at least they appreciated mine for me. I USE to be a femme who said "ewwwwwwwww" regarding femmes with cocks. Now I marvel at why it took me so long to claim this delightful part of sex. I LOVE how good I am with my cock. I am much better with mine than anyone has been with theirs with me. And I dont feel less femme because I have a cock. In fact, I feel MORE feminine, more alive, more powerful in my wiles.... mine does not have sparklies but by god now I am going to get me one with them! LOL. Pretty pretty.... |
CIJS....
I fucking love this thread?!
It is educational, fun, sexy, hot-all the things that I love rolled into one! |
Femme Cock is hawt! :) Just sayin
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I need a beer... lol
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I've used a gold disco cock. It was fun. I'm actually thinking of tying up my wife and using a dolphin and *making* her like it. Ha.
but as for butches getting penetrated by dildos, yeah, in my experience it's the norm, rather than the exception. |
If I ever decide to get one it must be a "gold disco" cock!
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notice the title says the extended 12"
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just sayin' |
I sure did....lmao...good one...now all we need is a Disco Ball, the soundtrack Disco Duck, and we are good to go....
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I love the energetic flow that allows her to feel me inside without any appendage attached at all. However, I have not found that with every partner. Some are less able to sense energy than others. That's okay. I think it takes practice for one and more importantly an open mind. I have not always found that latter to be a given however. With Tantra we use quite a bit of breath work, hip rocking...etc to bring the energy up and through the body. The energy built also increases the length and intensity of the orgasm. For me too. I love the ripple orgasms that I can feel coming through my cock as she holds on and vibrates over and over. And the sounds.... I love being vocal. Whether it is loud sounds or peotry. I love to hear them, it increases the connection I have with my lady. I feel thwarted if I am with a partner who is not very vocal and does not appreciate the encouraging sounds/words I use. But then that partner never sticks around long. I am way too old to hang where I am not happy. |
Hoooooooooraaaayyyy for this thread! About time!!!
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I think calling femme cock "common" to butches and FTMs is really going to be unique to each and every individual femme who embraces that part of their sexual identity.
In my opinion and experience, we all attract and are attracted to a certain type of person - and that changes over time. When I was younger and less self-aware, I attracted and accepted attention from a different type of person than I do today. Would it have been fair for me to say back then that it's common for butches to be emotional manipulative of femmes? Absolutely not. That was just, sadly, where I was in my life's journey. Today, those types of butches have no place in my life. So, I understand that it's not my place to contradict anyone on this thread and say it's actually more common for butches and FTMs to *not* be attracted to femme cock - although in my experience, I have never met a butch or FTM who would entertain such a notion. All I can say is that the type of butch I attract, as well as the type of femme that I am, don't embrace the femme cock concept at any level. It doesn't make it right or wrong. It doesn't make anyone more or less a femme. It doesn't make anyone a better lover. It just makes it what it is. Pink. |
My cock is not for entertainment purposes
Maybe the reason you've never met a butch or ftm who would "entertain' the notion because they've been shamed for having those thoughts or desires.
Interesting how butches and ftm's have to entertain and femmes are expected to like cock period. Very interesting |
No, my dear Lady Snow, I have no shame in my sexuality, thoughts, or desires. At the age of 40, I am quite confident in what I like and what I want. I can say unequivocally that femme cock is not a part of my identity. Nor, do I feel any less equipped as a femme or as a lover by not embracing that concept.
Pink. |
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So it's not a common practice in your relationships, I get that for some of us Femme's, butches, and ftm's it is... Hence the start of this thread. I don't think anyone has said you are less equipped as a femme for your lack of having one. I'm going to assume you support Femme Cock and those who like it hence why you came in here and posted as a supporter of our sex. :) PS-- I do still find it interesting the fact butches and ftms have to "entertain" the idea while Femme's are expected to like it... It's interesting.... |
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On one hand you say it's unique and then on the other hand you give a broad generalization. |
Thank you Lady Snow (& all planeteers)!
I learn much from you, i.e., that "service" did have another meaning or context. Signed, Your fairly sheltered and coming-from-a-kinda-vanilla place friend. Hugs, |
curious!
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I "entertained" the idea once....that was all it took! :winky:
When some of my femme friends have said they would love to be a fly on the wall when we are having a boys night or when I am with a group of butches...believe me when I say, you would hear some interesting conversations about things that some of us (not all of us mind you) actually enjoy, but never talk about. 5 years ago, I never would have mentioned anything about thinking that femme cock is hot, but I think it is time to start talking about it! It doesn't make me one tiny bit less butch (or any other negative connotation I have ever heard...see Lady Snow's post with the list of things said earlier in this thread...I have heard more than one of those in my time!) because I like femme cock and think it is hot! |
As soon as someone starts quoting their own idiosyncratic experiences as fact,
I want to do a survey to collect some qualitative/quantitive data. Field research might interest me. |
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There may very well be more "perverted" butches, transguys, etc. around than anyone might imagine! For the life of me, I don't get some of this stuff sometimes- couples of every type and kind- from heterosexual to the queerist of queer have been enjoying and using "femme" cock for a very long time. Lots of straight men enjoy back door sex via dildo worn by their wives/girl friends. It does not have a thing to do with gender identity or roles- it has to do with pleasure and what a couple wants to share. I so agree with Just G about what can be heard among butches about all of this. But something that bothers me is that there is some kind of secret code about it- as well as for butches that are not focused on butch cock as the sexual main event. For such a diverse, "open" and sex positive community, I often just shake my head. |
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I only experience this Femme Cock phobia here online, I do truly think it's all them isms that leak into our LGBTQ canvas, it's a heteronormative expectation. I think it's something that men experience as well because like you stated that it's a biggo secret. I don't know what the word is exactly to use to describe what it is. |
I'm not adept at using the multiple quote function, so I'll try to remember who I'm responding to.
Tawse- I was only trying to say that when we talk about what is "common", that is unique to each person's set of experiences. That person can generalize about that commonality within their own life, but, imo, I think they begin to tread on thin ice when they attempt to generalize to an entire population of butches or femmes or FTMs. I was using myself as a contrasting example to one of the other posts that had caught my attention about what is common, in terms of femme cock. Sorry I wasn't more clear, but thank you for asking. Lady Snow- I support anything that works for 2 consenting adults, as long as it does not involve children or animals. If it's femme, butch, or trans cock - or any type of kink... I say more power to the individual who is able to embrace it as part of their desire and can own it without shame. You also said: "Interesting how butches and ftm's have to entertain and femmes are expected to like cock period." I agree with your statement 100%. Pink. |
I wasn't saying that anyone who disliked it was abnomal lol - but I can see that it could be connoted from my statement.
I personally was NOT into strapping on or penetrating (butches, I did men) in any way for quite a few years. However, I did find that when I *did* start penetrating (just with a hand held dildo at first) that most of the people I fucked who voiciferously said they were not into it, and I said "no problem. I don't care either way" would, after they felt safe enough (maybe 6 months, maybe a year) would ask me if we could try it. some did not want it shaped in any way like a dick. fair enough. But after getting private messages on b-f.com during chat and in the forums for years from butches who knew I did use "toys" and "impliments" tell me that they liked it or were curious but would never ever tell their mates and how could they possibly bring it up with their partner.... it's been *my* experience that it's pretty damn common to be interested in what it might feel like (at the very least) with feeling very inhibited for good reason about saying so. So the reason I assert that it *is* common, is to undo the long standing myth that butches, en mass, don't like penetration and that's a given default setting just because one's gender is masculine female or masculine woman -or masculine anything, really. I'm been a big slag in my life and done a lot of fucking with a lot of people. A lot of men too. And men, in my experience, once they know you've wiggled a finger and know how to stimulate that prostate gland with expertise to almost all of the blokes before them... will allow an "experimental" well greased finger up there while performing well executed head. And in my experience, none of them EVER said "oh that doesn't feel good, stop it" - they've all been pretty damn pleased they tried it. But jesus don't ever mention it to ANYONE, especially my best friend/ex etc. Penetration is often viewed as feminising, rather than just a sex act, so many people who don't want their masculinity called into question would rather be slapped 7 ways to friday with a metal pole that admit to people who may judge them for it that the pole felt pretty good in another place. That's why enjoying that kind of sex is fairly common, in my view. it doesn't make people who don't like it abnormal. Ever. They just don't enjoy it. That's it. Full stop. But with me, that option will always be there, with no judgement either way. |
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