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Nat 12-09-2011 10:42 AM

Unpopular and Maligned Animals
 
Thought it might be interesting to have a thread regarding the creatures people tend to dislike almost on instinct. My definition of animal here does not include humans or plants or fungi, but would include any other living entity that feeds on living things that feed on other living things.

I saw this today and thought it was neat:

Researchers discover empathy in rats:

Elijah 12-09-2011 11:12 AM

Hyenas
 
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...hyenas_big.jpg

However, this is interesting...

http://ethiovision.com/hyenas-not-a-...r-in-ethiopia/

starryeyes 12-09-2011 11:24 AM

Cochroaches. I love all things living and can't even kill a spider in my house, but these things just skeeve me. I have never had one in my house, thank goodness. I went to the Zoo in Santa Barbara and they had a hissing cockroach exhibit. I did not look intentionally, but as soon as I saw them I went I to an instant panic attack. My girlfriend at the time had to like walk me out of the exhibit, lmao. So weird. I have never had a personal experience with them that I can remember.

Nat 12-09-2011 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starryeyes (Post 483072)
Cochroaches. I love all things living and can't even kill a spider in my house, but these things just skeeve me. I have never had one in my house, thank goodness. I went to the Zoo in Santa Barbara and they had a hissing cockroach exhibit. I did not look intentionally, but as soon as I saw them I went I to an instant panic attack. My girlfriend at the time had to like walk me out of the exhibit, lmao. So weird. I have never had a personal experience with them that I can remember.

Don't ever move to Texas :)

Rockinonahigh 12-09-2011 11:38 AM

You best not come to louisiana,we have generational roaches..they get bigger every generation..the plametto bugs will spook ya big time..yuck hate em!

starryeyes 12-09-2011 11:46 AM

Ok.. I cant read this thread lmao.

Glenn 12-09-2011 11:52 AM

I had a pet cockaroach I named Big Bug and trained it to follow me in every room, eat off a plate with two front legs, do somersaults, sit on my shoulder, and sit on the sofa with me and watch TV.

Cin 12-09-2011 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popcorninthesofa (Post 483083)
I had a pet cockaroach I named Big Bug and trained it to follow me in every room, eat off a plate with two front legs, do somersaults, sit on my shoulder, and sit on the sofa with me and watch TV.

Did it have a favorite show?

ruby_woo 12-09-2011 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nat (Post 483054)
Thought it might be interesting to have a thread regarding the creatures people tend to dislike almost on instinct. My definition of animal here does not include humans or plants or fungi, but would include any other living entity that feeds on living things that feed on other living things.

I saw this today and thought it was neat:

Researchers discover empathy in rats:

Rats FREAK ME OUT. I've run down the street screaming after seeing a rat. I tried reading the rat article but the rat in a tube picture was giving me the heebie jeebies. I think I'd rather find out my house had ghosts than rats.

I like lizards though, I guess lots of people don't. They have have cute little faces.

Glenn 12-09-2011 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Tick (Post 483085)
Did it have a favorite show?

We were suppose to be on David Letterman, but it mysteriously disappeared!:blink:

kannon 12-09-2011 12:12 PM

It's funny that nat should start this thread cause one of my least fav animals are

Gnats

Those pesky little flying monkeys.

These smaller flies are worse than the bigger versions cause you can't see them coming or anticipate their flight paths.

Elijah 12-09-2011 12:16 PM

We can't forget the ever popular Spider
 
http://jeffvrabel.files.wordpress.co.../tarantula.jpg

This guy writes a very funny blog about his spider experiences..

http://jeffvrabel.com/2011/07/19/im-...mediately-why/

starryeyes 12-09-2011 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popcorninthesofa (Post 483083)
I had a pet cockaroach I named Big Bug and trained it to follow me in every room, eat off a plate with two front legs, do somersaults, sit on my shoulder, and sit on the sofa with me and watch TV.

O.M.F.G.... *screams*

The JD 12-09-2011 12:20 PM

Possum
 
http://dcairns.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/possum11.jpg

There's a possum that lives in my back yard... we cross paths occasionally, since we're both active at night. Freaks me out every time- it reared up and hissed at me once, and I was the one who nearly played dead. I know I should feel more fondly toward North America's only marsupial, but they're just so....mismatched.

They get a bad rap on the rabies thing too. Though they *can* carry rabies, it's not very likely- their body temp is too low.

Cin 12-09-2011 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popcorninthesofa (Post 483089)
We were suppose to be on David Letterman, but it mysteriously disappeared!:blink:

I'm not one bit surprised. It's one of those little know facts, but cockroaches are frequently glossophobic.

The_Lady_Snow 12-09-2011 12:21 PM

FML
 
:|. This thread is SCARY!!!

ButchEire 12-09-2011 12:22 PM

I have pet rats and I highly recommend them for friends looking for a first small pet for their kids. Rats are FAR less likely to bite than gerbils or hamsters and they are clean and playful. I've had every type of (legal) pet out there and rats are surprisingly high on my love list. I even leave their cage door open because they wander a bit on the top and sides but NEVER leave the immediate cage area. Very smart, sweet pets!

Cin 12-09-2011 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nat (Post 483054)
Thought it might be interesting to have a thread regarding the creatures people tend to dislike almost on instinct. My definition of animal here does not include humans or plants or fungi, but would include any other living entity that feeds on living things that feed on other living things.

I saw this today and thought it was neat:

Researchers discover empathy in rats:

I love rats. I love rodents in general. I brought my white mouse to school once in my pocket and then my nickname was rat until we moved and I changed schools.

kannon 12-09-2011 12:29 PM

Interesting fact:

rats are not carriers of rabies. They cannot carry or transmit rabies.

ButchEire 12-09-2011 12:34 PM

True, unless they are bit by an animal carrying rabies. Non-meat eating animals like squirrels, rabbits and bats that eat fruit or bugs are also not carriers. Because raccoons and possums scavenge scraps and eat meat, they have a higher incidence of carrying rabies.
ETA: Only because many people believe incorrectly that rats, etc., cannot get or give rabies: http://www.ratbehavior.org/DryBite.htm

They can, but the cases are rare.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannon (Post 483112)
Interesting fact:

rats are not carriers of rabies. They cannot carry or transmit rabies.


kannon 12-09-2011 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ButchEire (Post 483115)
True, unless they are bit by an animal carrying rabies. Non-meat eating animals like squirrels, rabbits and bats that eat fruit or bugs are also not carriers. Because raccoons and possums scavenge scraps and eat meat, they have a higher incidence of carrying rabies.
ETA: Only because many people believe incorrectly that rats, etc., cannot get or give rabies: http://www.ratbehavior.org/DryBite.htm

They can, but the cases are rare.

"Rabies from rats is very rare and has never been documented in the United States. However, a handful of cases of rabies from a rat bite have been recorded in Poland (Zmudziński and Smreczak 1995, described in Wincewicz 2002), Israel (Gdalevich et al. 2000), Thailand (Kamoltham et al. 2002) and Surinam (Verlinde et al 1975)."

I wonder if they were able to exclusively link the transmission of rabbies to the rats in Poland, Israel, etc.

I'll have to let my vet know he was wrong.

The JD 12-09-2011 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannon (Post 483112)
Interesting fact:

rats are not carriers of rabies. They cannot carry or transmit rabies.

The Black Plague, however....lol. I know, I know, technically, it was the fleas on the rats that spread the plague that killed half of Europe. But still.

I used to have pet rats, loved them. Flea-less pet rats, that is. :|

Blue_Daddy-O 12-09-2011 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popcorninthesofa (Post 483083)
I had a pet cockaroach I named Big Bug and trained it to follow me in every room, eat off a plate with two front legs, do somersaults, sit on my shoulder, and sit on the sofa with me and watch TV.

Oh My God... I had to laugh so hard when I read this!!!! LOL!

starryeyes 12-09-2011 01:13 PM

I have a pet ferret named Smokey. I live in California where they are illegal and not of the norm. When I tell people about him, people always freak. They say ferrets are "baby killers" and will chew the fingers and noses off babies. I don't understand where this comes from. My ferret sleeps in his hammock all day, plays with my dogs, snuggles with me, watches me take a shower (lol) and is just a pleasant little cutie. Are these "baby killer" rumors true?? I have never seen anything in print that would justify them.

kannon 12-09-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The JD (Post 483120)
The Black Plague, however....lol. I know, I know, technically, it was the fleas on the rats that spread the plague that killed half of Europe. But still.

I used to have pet rats, loved them. Flea-less pet rats, that is. :|

there was a case of bubonic or black plague in the the US just last year.

VERY important to deflea your rats. :) They do have antibiotics to treat it but you have to catch it within 24 hours or so.

http://www.dreamstime.com/fleas-and-...mb15386033.jpg

I love rats too.

Apocalipstic 12-09-2011 01:42 PM

I am moved to hear that rats have empathy. :) So cute.

I recently learned armadillos carry Leprosy...I had no idea. With the weather changes they are arriving in TN in larger numbers now.

Possums do creep me out, I admit. One lives behind our apartment and my roommate screams her head off every time it peers in our window. Big Butch girl meltdowns crack me UP!

Bugs? Our once every 13 year cicada infestations creep me out, but individual bugs I just leave alone mostly. After living in South America and Texas, our TN bugs seem kind of insignificant.

A coworker had a pet praying mantis until it flew off a d a bird ate it.

Apocalipstic 12-09-2011 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannon (Post 483134)
there was a case of bubonic or black plague in the the US just last year.

VERY important to deflea your rats. :) They do have antibiotics to treat it but you have to catch it within 24 hours or so.

http://www.dreamstime.com/fleas-and-...mb15386033.jpg

I love rats too.

Prarie dogs carry it.
I am fascinated by Bubonic Plague and other infection deseases like Leprosy, Tuberculosis, Polio, etc....

RiverBoi 12-09-2011 03:19 PM

Bats would fit into this category. I personally think that they are kinda cute. ;) AND I love the fact that they eat mosquito's (which is a WONDERFUL friend to have in the south) Bat's eat around 250,000 pounds of insects a night. I suppose many people are scared of them due to rabies or Ozzy lol. I haven't heard of a rabid bat swarm, targeting humans however.

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-02-...17_1_bat-house

kannon 12-09-2011 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiverBoi (Post 483187)
Bats would fit into this category. I personally think that they are kinda cute. ;) AND I love the fact that they eat mosquito's (which is a WONDERFUL friend to have in the south) Bat's eat around 250,000 pounds of insects a night. I suppose many people are scared of them due to rabies or Ozzy lol. I haven't heard of a rabid bat swarm, targeting humans however.

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-02-...17_1_bat-house

All I can think of is the 250,000 lbs of bat poop.

I wonder how easy it is to train bats?

dixie 12-09-2011 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElijahRene (Post 483067)

I think they're cute. And they laugh. Makes them one of my favorites.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The JD (Post 483103)
http://dcairns.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/possum11.jpg

There's a possum that lives in my back yard... we cross paths occasionally, since we're both active at night. Freaks me out every time- it reared up and hissed at me once, and I was the one who nearly played dead. I know I should feel more fondly toward North America's only marsupial, but they're just so....mismatched.

They get a bad rap on the rabies thing too. Though they *can* carry rabies, it's not very likely- their body temp is too low.

I love possums, although it hurts like hell when they bite. I have one chubby possum and two huge skunks that have hung around my house for so many years that I now feed all three, and just hang out on the porch with them. I posted about how I accidentally tried petting the skunk instead of my cat last night when I was distracted and not really paying attention to what was standing beside my leg. They are pretty tame now, but I'm not sure if they are pet-able quite yet...lol The skunks are not big fans of the possum though, and usually bully him around a bit. Especially if there are sausage balls involved. lol I also used to have a couple raccoons, but they have been gone for a while.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ButchEire (Post 483107)
I have pet rats and I highly recommend them for friends looking for a first small pet for their kids. Rats are FAR less likely to bite than gerbils or hamsters and they are clean and playful. I've had every type of (legal) pet out there and rats are surprisingly high on my love list. I even leave their cage door open because they wander a bit on the top and sides but NEVER leave the immediate cage area. Very smart, sweet pets!

I used to have pet mice and rats when I was a kid too. They are very sweet.


Quote:

Originally Posted by RiverBoi (Post 483187)
Bats would fit into this category. I personally think that they are kinda cute. ;) AND I love the fact that they eat mosquito's (which is a WONDERFUL friend to have in the south) Bat's eat around 250,000 pounds of insects a night. I suppose many people are scared of them due to rabies or Ozzy lol. I haven't heard of a rabid bat swarm, targeting humans however.

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-02-...17_1_bat-house

I must admit they are kinda cute too, although they do freak me out when they buzz my head during my late night smoking outside...lol

kannon 12-09-2011 03:35 PM

who could resist this?
 
http://www.bbwildliferemoval.com/images/bigbat2.jpg

ruby_woo 12-09-2011 03:46 PM

The idea of rats with fleas makes me want to curl into the fetal position. :eek: I saw a picture of something once called Rat King and I was honestly on edge for days.

Story time:

When I was about 8 or so, there was a weird scratching behind my bed at night. I told my mom, and she assumed it was probably a mouse or something (it was a pretty rural area). Later on, I discovered, there was a hole the size of a fist behind my bed, my mom freaked and got it closed up asap. She told me a few years later that not longer after that she saw a giant rat (she said it was chihuahua size, but who knows) in our garage. Thus the dislike and fear of rats began.

GeorgiaMa'am 12-09-2011 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiverBoi (Post 483187)
Bats would fit into this category. I personally think that they are kinda cute. ;) AND I love the fact that they eat mosquito's (which is a WONDERFUL friend to have in the south) Bat's eat around 250,000 pounds of insects a night. I suppose many people are scared of them due to rabies or Ozzy lol. I haven't heard of a rabid bat swarm, targeting humans however.

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-02-...17_1_bat-house

Bats are awesome! We love our bats . . . on summer evenings, they swarm above the swimming pool just as we start noticing we are being bitten by pesky bugs. During the day they sleep, hanging outside our attic between the slats of the attic vents, their little toes curled in the screens.

The JD 12-09-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruby_woo (Post 483211)
Later on, I discovered, there was a hole the size of a fist behind my bed, my mom freaked and got it closed up asap. She told me a few years later that not longer after that she saw a giant rat (she said it was chihuahua size, but who knows) in our garage.

Maybe it was really a chihuahua. :D

SoNotHer 12-09-2011 04:29 PM

O' Possum!
 
I've never had a pet rat, but I understand they're incredibly smart. I adore bats and on any farm I'd have, I would build a bat barn for shelter (and for my own purposes - the guano is excellent fertilizer and as has already been noted, they're the best mosquito control). Until we get a handle on the white nose syndrome and start reclaiming bat habitat, I am very worried about our bats.

I have three possums come into my life. One was hit and stunned and lying on a road. A second was crawling across a road slowly. He had a hernia. And this fall, I found a dead mother possum with one of her babies tossed to the side and dead. When I went to move her body, I noticed movement inside her. There was a little one still alive.

I took the two first possums that I found on the road to a vet in Baltimore (where I was living) who was a wildlife rehabilitator. Both did terrifically with treatment and were re-released over time.

The baby opossum I found this fall was discovered on the road late at night. I let her stay in her mother's pouch all night in a box inside and with blankets over them both (warmth is an issue). The next morning I found that my regular vet, who is a rehabilitator, was out of town but his office referred to another vet a little farther away. The baby was still alive but not moving as much.

The other vet did take her right away and they nursed her as the mother would have and did a great job with her. I felt pretty blessed being given the opportunity to be some part of each of these stories. I don't know why the mature opossums let me touch them and move them into my car. I prayed and talked to them before I did and used a blanket. But that they trust me is one of the coolest things ever.

Thank you for this thread, Nat, and I've enjoyed the posts here. I think myself lucky to live in a world with a wide and beautiful variety of species.

http://virtuallyjulie.com/images/200...s/Jul25017.jpg

Venus007 12-09-2011 04:42 PM

Horny Toad
 
I love these. I had one as a kid and my great grandma sat on it and squished it. There was screaming.
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild...izardlarge.jpg

ruby_woo 12-09-2011 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The JD (Post 483226)
Maybe it was really a chihuahua. :D

Or one of the random cats that was always hanging around our house. :)

starryeyes 12-09-2011 09:22 PM

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-713416

Wow.. this made me cry. I think disabled animals kind-of fit in this category. The are often discarded and overlooked. I myself have a disabled dog (deaf) who was going to be put to sleep just because he was deaf. What an amazing story and a sweet little baby. Wow! Zippy RULES!

:-D
Starry

Sassy 12-09-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The JD (Post 483103)
http://dcairns.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/possum11.jpg

There's a possum that lives in my back yard... we cross paths occasionally, since we're both active at night. Freaks me out every time- it reared up and hissed at me once, and I was the one who nearly played dead. I know I should feel more fondly toward North America's only marsupial, but they're just so....mismatched.

They get a bad rap on the rabies thing too. Though they *can* carry rabies, it's not very likely- their body temp is too low.

*squeals!!!* ick ick ick ick!!!! oh, I had a nasty run-in with one of these ugly buggers recently. My li'l dog got hold of one in the backyard around midnight one night... ok, good puppy, protectin' Mama from the overgrown rat... but... ick ick ick ick!!!! it STANK and I was SO glad the dog's shots were up to date ... Funny thing though... I thought she'd killed it. I hauled the dog off the possum and ran in the house ranting the whole way about having to deal with possum remains in the middle of the night and it cold and wet outside.......... erm, possums "play possum" when they're scared..... when I walked back outside to assess the situation the critter had disappeared.......... so the one good thing I can so for 'em, is I haven't had to bury one yet. *laughs!* .....


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