"Packing" 101....
 

There is a ton of info on packing in this thread. Links and sites.


http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/foru...read.php?t=608

See I knew I missed something... sorry Corkey... I will have admin.. delete this.

http://transguys.com/product-reviews...king-underwear

Much like G's innovation these have a soft O ring in the construction. For use with soft or packnpee.

I have spent a lot of time trying to "perfect" the packing experience. There are so many combinations, variations and products to consider. I try to keep it simple.

Soft pack -- I have yet to find a soft packer that I like. Soft packing, just for the aesthetics, can be done a zillion ways. I simply prefer a manageable (i.e. small) soft packer held nicely in a good snug pair of boxer briefs.

Hard pack -- My recent preferred method is the Goodfella cock (again, smallish but bendable) in the Aslan Undercover Harness. This harness is quite comfortable, but not built for vigorous play. I like to strap tight for better control. This harness does not allow that, but it would allow for less vigorous activity, such as blowjobs.

The best thing to do is try a few things out to see what works for you.

I too have spent years trying to "perfect". Sometimes, for me anyway, its just not comfortable. I mean physically, not emotionally or psychologically. I'm good there. I think it just might be a "thing" with me though. Kinda like, if my socks aren't on the right feet, my feet feel weird all day. If my cock isn't in the right spot and stay there, it feels weird all day.

What I'm trying now is, I got some compression shorts and O rings. I cut a small X (a little smaller than the center of the O ring) put the O ring in place and folded the "tabs" over around it (on the inside, then tacked the tabs down with a few stitches on each. Then cut fabric into a donut shape and stitched it on the inside of the shorts for some extra strength because the shorts stretch so much. I put the hole where it would need to be for a pack and play, so I could stick it through to play. (like Hack said, good for blowjobs) I have not had the pleasure to see how well it works in that aspect. It doesn't seem to matter the hole is there for a soft pack. So far, it's not too bad. The shorts are snug enough to keep things in place for the most part.

Hard pack is altogether a different ballgame.

Oh my..*blushing*... remembering an incident years ago, when something like that actually happened to me and my butch... we DID laugh alot, but I remember feeling REALLY embarrassed, that I had somehow done something wrong!

thanks to you all....and to Strappie for this thread.....:).
 

First of all, I almost feel like an intruder in on this thread again. I do not pack myself, I just personally just appreciate that there are butches that DO!

I also am not intending to be disrespectful in any way to anyone. Please forgive this femme who is in a new relationship, flush with lust and giddy with all the hormones that sex with a new partner will bring (oof!). yeah, I spend most of my days with a silly-assed grin on my face!

When I re-read G's post detailing how hy "used hem tape to close the front of the pouch opening...etc", I just could NOT get this picture out of my head.....of a long-ago Home Ec class, offering tips ala Hints from Heloise, on how to retro fit boxers to hold a cock, to a roomful of butches! *wild giggling!*

However you all do it, PLEASE don't stop! Hard pack, soft pack, I for one love the feel of it, and knowing it is THERE! I love reaping the benefits of your creativity! Woo-Hoo!

Oh darlin, I am sure you WILL be able to cross that off your bucket list!

hard pack
 

I like to soft pack. Heck, I like to hard pack too. Haven't done it in a long time. But I still got it.... I hope. Lol

At the suggestion of a rather clever femme, I sewed the pouch of my boxer briefs to secure my soft packer. I didn't fully sew it closed, just tacked it in two places on the outside opening and one place on the inside opening. This allows for fairly easy insertion and adjustment but leaves basically no risk of it falling out. It was a simple and effective solution.

Additionally, I can use those same briefs to hold my hard packer in place for some types of activities. For more vigorous sex, I use a harness with adjustable straps. My new hard pack is not as bendy as my old one, so wearing it under clothing is not practical, but I still have my older one if I want to do that.

All very exciting stuff! I love when my girl packs...especially when I am not aware until we are out somewhere and she inadvertently rubs against my backside. Growwwwl!!!!

I've been dating someone who uses the Rodeo. It's a snug fitting, sturdy brief that double as a harness. No sewing necessary, and she can wear them all day since they're as comfortable as any other brief.

http://rodeoh.com/shop.html

I just visited the website via the above link for the first time. WTF? The models for this brief are all hyper femme! Really? WTF? Take my word for it that the briefs are perfectly appropriate for a butch. Geez.

And I can attest that they stand up to vigorous usage.

Hey everyone.

First of all, I would like to say Thank you for all the posts. I have found them to be very helpful.

Second of all, I am new to this subject. I am definitely wanting to learn more and start packing. What would be the best "starter" packer? I will be interested in a STP.
Thanks in advance for all your help

Very cool. Have not heard of this brand. I have been buying the Sparparts Pete boxer briefs...

http://www.myspare.com/product/pete

These are great for both play and packing :)

Scuba, Those look very promising but I am having problems finding them for sale online. Where do you buy them from?
Thanks, Maverick

Never mind, I found them on goodvibes.com.

Just purchased a couple of pair of these myself for packing purposes. I am glad to see a good review of them. :)

My learnings
 

When I was a young buck, I was given a tip on packing by an old school butch. This is what you do: Take two pairs of tight briefs, turn the first one inside out, put your equipment throught the flap, put the other over, normally. If you need to use it, it will hold up to just about anything as long as they are Tight! Been doing it for years, works great and I don't have to buy anything fancy or exspensive.

I just thought I'd get on here and share how I use my "home ec" education to help my @ out...

I do similar to what both G and Slater do, by hand sewing the front opening of @'s briefs or boxer briefs closed. This takes advantage of the "pocket" that is already there; @ slips his packer in the opening on the inside, and it also puts a layer of cotton between his skin & the packer. He has not said anything about the fabric stretching out on the inside...

At first I just did a few stitches like Slater does, but they just wouldn't stay in and I would have to fix them after a few wash & wears. So now I stitch the entire opening from top to bottom. I do it by hand because so you can't see the sewing... I like the idea @ would pass even in his underwear (he uses the modified briefs and boxer briefs only for soft packing.) I like to think even if anyone should ever launder them they wouldn't see it.

I am working on ideas to fix other types of underwear, and also a swimsuit he just got, along the lines of sewing a pocket inside. I think it is best to make sure it stretches with the fabric, or else it might be uncomfortable or not last as long.

This can get hot in the summer though!

you are so good to me.......
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Do any of you guys pack daily that don't "pass" as male? I'd really like to pack every day but I don't ID as male or present as male so I spend a lot of energy on trying to hide the fact that I'm packing to the public (baggy pants, long shirts, etc.) and end up just not doing it because it causes me anxiety that I just don't need on a daily basis. I'd be interested in hearing from any of you that pack regularly and how you feel about people recognizing this aspect out in public...or if that's even a concern for you.

Thanks in advance,
Mav

I don't present as male and rarely pass as such, but I pack pretty regularly. I don't really worry all that much about people noticing. I won't say it never crosses my mind, and I know that the bulge is more noticable in some clothes than others. But I figure most people are probably not paying attention to my crotch in the first place, and even if they do notice and actually realize it's not just an odd crease, so what? So they learned a little something about me that perhaps they would rather have not known. Oh well.

Can I ask, what are you worried will happen if people do notice? Are you worried about people you know or strangers?

Slater, I'm pretty new to all this..just about a year now so I am not as secure in my "butch-hood" as some of you yet. I'm concerned mostly about comments from people I know but there is always the concern from the general population too. Probably just being self conscious and curious if I'm the only one.

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I don't 'try' to pass as male. Sometimes I am called sir, or he... some people dont bat an eye and call me she... and some people dont know what to do, so they just stare.

As Corkey said, I do it for me. There's a certain confidence that comes in that package. It's almost like my "superman suit." No one has to know it's there, and frankly -- I wouldn't care if they did.

I don't worry about what people think -- despite living in a very small, redneck, conservative town. An old boom mining town.... Camo trucks, and Copenhagen. I would rather feel like my best self with it, than feel small without it.

And usually....... if anyone asks or says anything, I reply..... loudly... with seven little words:

"Why are you staring at my crotch?"

That usually flusters them, and shuts them up.

Well, I'm fairly new to packing as well as ID'ing as TG butch so there are a lot of things going on with me right now and I'm still adjusting to all of that. How does it make me feel? It makes me feel complete and whole...like the part of me that I sense being there is actually there now. It makes me feel confident and a little "cocky" lol. I love it and would like to do it often or daily. As a couple of you have said, I think I just need some time to feel comfortable with it. And I love the come back.."why are you staring at my crotch?"

Thanks everyone for your input.
Mav


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Butch Help, Please.
 

Q wants me to start packing--Part of our dynamic is that I acquiesce.

I was told to start with my craft supplies but it seems premature, thoughts?