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SilverStoneFemme 04-08-2012 05:46 PM

The House of Stone...
 
This is a thread for all stones, butches and femmes, who would like a place to gather and chat. It's also a place for those who consider themselves to be friends and family of stones, and a place for those who would like to chat with and/or learn more information about the stone identity.

Let me be clear on the definition of stones:

*1. A stone butch is a person who is masculine in thoughts and actions, whose personal style is masculine, whose only partner is a stonefemme (or a femme who can accept stone butches for who and what they are), who does not wish to be touched in a feminizing manner, who considers the sexual satisfaction of hys partner first, and who does not wish hys genitals to be touched and hy is cock-centric, in that hys sexual style is expressed mainly through hys butchcock in a masculine manner.

*2. A stone femme is a person who is feminine in thoughts and action, whose personal style is feminine, whose only partner is a stone butch, whose sexual style accepts the sexual boundaries and limitations of any stonebutch with grace and understanding, who never pushes the limits and boundaries of any stone butch and who loves butchcock and the masculinity of stone butches it represents.

If your definition of stone butch and stone femme is #1 and #2 above you encouraged to join our group.

There may be people who define stone butch and stone femme in other ways and they have the right to do so. However, they also have an an opportunity here at BFP to start another group according to their own definitions.


cuddlyfemme 04-10-2012 06:17 AM

Count me in! I'm totally a Stone Femme and proud of it!

Electrocell 04-10-2012 06:50 AM

Stone butch here.

SilverStoneFemme 04-10-2012 03:13 PM

Hello, cuddlyfemme and ElectroCell, nice to have you here and i hope to hear from lots more stones.

SilverStoneFemme 04-10-2012 03:16 PM

I joined BFP back in 2010 and had lots of posts and reps, but I guess my inactivity has brought those figures down to 0.

But that's alright, they'll come back up once I get rolling on the website once again.

Electrocell 04-10-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme (Post 562485)
I joined BFP back in 2010 and had lots of posts and reps, but I guess my inactivity has brought those figures down to 0.

But that's alright, they'll come back up once I get rolling on the website once again.

Welcome back .

SilverStoneFemme 04-10-2012 06:37 PM

Thanx, i hope to be around a bit longer this trip....lol....:bow:....

diamondrose 04-10-2012 06:44 PM

thank you for starting this thread. I am a stone femme

aishah 04-10-2012 07:03 PM

welcome back :) our definitions aren't exactly the same, but i'm a stone femme who is partnered with a stone butch. thank you for starting this thread :)

SilverStoneFemme 04-11-2012 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aishah (Post 562654)
welcome back :) our definitions aren't exactly the same, but i'm a stone femme who is partnered with a stone butch. thank you for starting this thread :)


I was on a website somewhere on the net and a butch came along who thought the meaning of stone butch meant hy didn't have a girlfriend.

As long as your definitions are along the lines of the original post, and not something as weird as the one in the above paragraph....lol....it's all good.....:bow:....welcome.....

SweetJane 04-11-2012 01:06 AM

Hi, I'm glad you started this threat. Mingling out in the wider lesbian community lately has made me feel a need to be among my own kind. Thank you.

SilverStoneFemme 04-11-2012 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetJane (Post 562840)
Hi, I'm glad you started this threat. Mingling out in the wider lesbian community lately has made me feel a need to be among my own kind. Thank you.

That's exactly why i started this thread. It's so difficult to find stones out and about in the queer community, especially here in the midwest. i was starved for stone contacts, and here At BFP we have a place to come together......:cheerleader:....

Edited for typoitis

tiggs 04-11-2012 08:17 PM

Hi SSF, thanks for starting this thread both my Daddy and I are stone and as it seems we have the same way of defining O/our stone as you do. Hopefully this thread will take off.

mustangjeano 04-11-2012 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aishah (Post 562654)
welcome back :) our definitions aren't exactly the same, but i'm a stone femme who is partnered with a stone butch. thank you for starting this thread :)

Great to see this thread, thanks.

skeeter_01 04-12-2012 07:42 AM

when i heard the definition of "stone butch"...it was like finding a missing puzzle piece...all of the sudden...things made sence...

unfortunately...i have yet to meet a stone femme in person...met plenty of them on here and other sites...but it seems that the femmes that i date all want to "change" me...

"do you think someday i can do x,y and z to you"?

"uhhhhhhhhhh....NO"....

i would LOVE to meet a stone femme...!!! i would especially love to DATE a stone femme!! ;)

thanks so much for this thread!!

skeet

Silverseastar 04-12-2012 09:16 AM

I'm not exclusively a stone femme...not sure if I fit in at all here. But the defining thing for me is respecting my partner's identity and sexual desires. I don't feel a need to change anyone and have successfully dated stone butches.

People are a package deal imho. Trying to change anyone is a bad idea.

I do think it's awesome to create a space where those who are clear on what they like can congregate though :)

Electrocell 04-12-2012 09:54 AM

Have to say your meaning of a stone butch pretty well sums it up for me. I don't like being touched in a feminizing way and I always make sure my partner is satisfied sexually before I consider my own needs. It gives me pleasure to give her pleasure.

SilverStoneFemme 04-13-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiggs (Post 563470)
Hi SSF, thanks for starting this thread both my Daddy and I are stone and as it seems we have the same way of defining O/our stone as you do. Hopefully this thread will take off.

Thanks for coming by, tiggs. i'm glad you've come into the thread. Hope you and your Daddy meet lots of other stones here.....(f)(f)(f).....

SilverStoneFemme 04-13-2012 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skeeter_01 (Post 563681)
when i heard the definition of "stone butch"...it was like finding a missing puzzle piece...all of the sudden...things made sence...

unfortunately...i have yet to meet a stone femme in person...met plenty of them on here and other sites...but it seems that the femmes that i date all want to "change" me...

"do you think someday i can do x,y and z to you"?

"uhhhhhhhhhh....NO"....

i would LOVE to meet a stone femme...!!! i would especially love to DATE a stone femme!! ;)

thanks so much for this thread!!

skeet

Hi skeet.....sorry for the bad experiences but those femmes who want to change you really don't understand the whys and wherefores of a stonebutch.

Don't ever let anyone change who you are unless YOU want to. Boundaries are boundaries and limitations are just that......lines that don't get crossed ever unless YOU want it.

You hang around this place long enough and a sweet thang will come along who will GET you. Don't you worry. We're out here we just need to be "found."....lol......(f)(f)(f)

SilverStoneFemme 04-13-2012 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverseastar (Post 563707)
I'm not exclusively a stone femme...not sure if I fit in at all here. But the defining thing for me is respecting my partner's identity and sexual desires. I don't feel a need to change anyone and have successfully dated stone butches.

People are a package deal imho. Trying to change anyone is a bad idea.

I do think it's awesome to create a space where those who are clear on what they like can congregate though :)

Hi, Silverseastar, nice to have you join us here.

As far as being a stonefemme, as long as you have respect for a butch's sexual boundaries and limitations that's all that matters. You have the heart of a stonefemme even if you're also able to do that lesbian thing......lol.....*shutter*.....sorry, even thinking of that makes me shiver.....can't help it, i'm a hard core stonefemme......:bow:......

SilverStoneFemme 04-13-2012 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrocell (Post 563724)
Have to say your meaning of a stone butch pretty well sums it up for me. I don't like being touched in a feminizing way and I always make sure my partner is satisfied sexually before I consider my own needs. It gives me pleasure to give her pleasure.

And we stonefemmes get that, Electrocell.....matter of fact, most stonefemmes have our own set of sexual boundaries and limitations on what sexual activites we will do to our stonebutches.

There are things i won't do, sexually, on an every day basis. Occasionally, ok. But all the time? Nope. That's that lesbian sex and i'm not a lesbian. i'm a queer stonefemme......:bow:.....

SilverStoneFemme 04-13-2012 06:40 PM

i'm so sorry it took me so long to get to the thread today. i had a dental appt and as i'm getting my work done at the local University dental school it takes waaaay longer than in a dentist's office.

However, i'm paying a whole lot less that i would to a dentist in practice. And the work is pretty much the same quality. All the work is supervised by the instructors, and the 2 crowns i'm getting have most of the work done on the inside. It's the lab who creates the crowns who is responsible for the quality.

It's all good, but my jaw is a bit on the sore side.....(f)(f)(f)....

SilverStoneFemme 04-13-2012 06:42 PM

i'm gonna tgo take two tylenol and see y'all tomorrow. i hope everyone has a good Friday.....:bow:.....

SilverStoneFemme 04-13-2012 06:55 PM

One last thing.......thanks to all who sent me Thanks and Reps. i totally appreciate it.....:gimmehug:....big hugs to all......

OK, i'm off to get this jaw some relief......

*Anya* 04-13-2012 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme (Post 564445)

You have the heart of a stonefemme even if you're also able to do that lesbian thing......lol.....*shutter*.....sorry, even thinking of that makes me shiver.....can't help it, i'm a hard core stonefemme......:bow:......

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme (Post 564451)


There are things i won't do, sexually, on an every day basis. Occasionally, ok. But all the time? Nope. That's that lesbian sex and i'm not a lesbian. i'm a queer stonefemme......:bow:.....

These two posts have more than a hint of distaste.

TOS for the site stresses tolerance for all identies.

You can be true to your own identity without making negative comments about "that lesbian thing" and "that's lesbian sex" that makes you shudder "shutter" per your post.

Comments like that really bother me.

aishah 04-13-2012 07:18 PM

thanks, anya.

for my partner and i...our boundaries around sex shift and for us stone is deeply tied to our emotions as well. i respect that other people define and experience stone differently, and i love being a queer stone femme.

but we do have many lesbian id'ed folks on the planet, including lesbian stone femmes. and people who like all different kinds of sex acts. there's nothing wrong with not liking them...but showing disgust towards other folks' ids and sex acts is not okay, imho.

The_Lady_Snow 04-13-2012 07:28 PM

Not Ok!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme (Post 564445)
Hi, Silverseastar, nice to have you join us here.

As far as being a stonefemme, as long as you have respect for a butch's sexual boundaries and limitations that's all that matters. You have the heart of a stonefemme even if you're also able to do that lesbian thing......lol.....*shutter*.....sorry, even thinking of that makes me shiver.....can't help it, i'm a hard core stonefemme......:bow:......


I get we all have our preferences but it's totally uncool to refer to lesbian sex and shutter like there's something wrong with that kind of sex.

Totally uncool!

princessbelle 04-13-2012 07:54 PM

SilverStoneFemme,

I know this is being addressed....but.

Not only are there lesbian stone femmes here, there are lesbian stone butches here as well. I happened to be partnered with one. Not all lesbians have sex the same way. We are quite diverse.

Not your keeper, just trying to offer a little friendly advice...

There are more flavors of IDs here than Baskin Robbins has flavors of ice creme.

http://dl10.glitter-graphics.net/pub...ue6cnvo04f.jpg

Electrocell 04-13-2012 08:06 PM

How many flavors is that lol? HMmmmmmmmmm baskin robbins sounds good about now.



Quote:

Originally Posted by princessbelle (Post 564520)
SilverStoneFemme,

I know this is being addressed....but.

Not only are there lesbian stone femmes here, there are lesbian stone butches here as well. I happened to be partnered with one. Not all lesbians have sex the same way. We are quite diverse.

Not your keeper, just trying to offer a little friendly advice...

There are more flavors of IDs here than Baskin Robbins has flavors of ice creme.

http://dl10.glitter-graphics.net/pub...ue6cnvo04f.jpg


CherylNYC 04-13-2012 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by princessbelle (Post 564520)
SilverStoneFemme,

I know this is being addressed....but.

Not only are there lesbian stone femmes here, there are lesbian stone butches here as well. I happened to be partnered with one. Not all lesbians have sex the same way. We are quite diverse.

Not your keeper, just trying to offer a little friendly advice...

There are more flavors of IDs here than Baskin Robbins has flavors of ice creme.

http://dl10.glitter-graphics.net/pub...ue6cnvo04f.jpg

Yup. I are one. Lesbian stonefemme here. I think I may be one of the rarest flavours.

Jess 04-14-2012 01:07 AM

I can not speak for any other stone butch out there, just myself. I would never pretend to try to define a label much less put such limitations on it as the OP has done here. After as many years in this community as I have been around, I can very easily point to the number of times someones ass gets handed to them for even considering doing that, just as I can count the number of times I have seen these definitions/ labels change from user to user.

I am, by my understanding of the labels/ definitions used historically in this community... a stone butch . I am a human being whose energy whom resides in a female body. I fuck feminine women. I do not get penetrated nor do I allow my body or the touching of it, to be done in a feminizing manner. While I am more comfortable being called by male pronouns , as for me, that reads "on line" that whomever I am speaking to feels that energy... I know that in this world ( my world I live in 24/7) I am seen as a woman as many times as I am seen as male/ masculine. I don't feel exactly comfortable with the OP only using "hy" when describing stone butch, as I know some stone butches whom prefer "she".

As far as "lesbian" goes. THIS stone butch entity is still living in a woman's body and fucks women. I am quite sure as long as I will remain alive, there are at least four dictionaries that will define women who fuck women as ( drum roll, wait for it...) Lesbian.

The pretty groovy ( and sometimes confusing) part of being part of a "queer" community, is that we are allowed and encouraged to define or label.. or NOT, ourselves. We are encouraged to NOT fall into the definitions placed on us by the majority of society that has held rule over our bodies ( and to some degree: minds) for evah! The other pretty groovy thing, is that we can and will look at one another and say, YOU, dear community member, do not get to define that for me either.

In the original opening post, we were asked to only take part in this thread if we fell into the definition of "stone" that was presented by the original poster.
Had it not continued on to add the tasteless comments regarding "lesbians", I may have fallen into that definition. Since it did "go there", I... suppose... I , as a stone, butch, freaky sex lovin, kinky whip wielding, non patchouli smellin, boot wearin, hat tippin, door openin, worshiper of high femmes ( NOT high maint, mind you) do not belong here and will respect that in the future.

girl_dee 04-14-2012 05:41 AM

2 definitions? really? i really have issues with people who tell people they can't be part of the group if they don't fit, what threads they can be part of and if they don't fit in, to go somewhere else. There are a bajillion ways to slice what we all are here and excluding people who may have something to offer does not feel right to me.


Another thing,

The word "feminize"

feminize |ˈfeməˌnīz|
verb [ trans. ]
  • make (something) more characteristic of or associated with women : as office roles changed, clerical work was increasingly feminized.
  • induce female sexual characteristics in a male.

This is SO reminiscent of the *melting the stone* thread on one of the other sites. As far as my opinion goes, being a non group member (i will never conform to labels/definitions) i don't get how anyone can *feminize* you no matter HOW they touch, talk or look at you without your permission. No one could ever *masculinize* me no matter how they fucked me. i appreciate that people have boundaries and we all do, and we love those who do, but the word feminize feels like something bad to me when used along these lines.

IMO butch is butch, femme is femme no matter what we are doing. No one loses their butch/femme card because of a sex act in my book. My book is not anyone else's book i respect that.

Carry on with your *group* !

spritzerJ 04-14-2012 05:47 AM

Oh what an interesting direction this thread has taken. I do hope we can remain open as a community ending up with a comfortable stone place to chat. And I imagine if we don't, no worries, there are lots of places to chat on this planet. I appreciate the variance in the community here. It is a treasure.

As for myself, I am sitting here going ooh another stone thread yippee! Because I wanted one. My own journey discovering, exploring and wondering about what my sexual expression "home" is leading me this way. And I am a reader I do like reading about stone (butch and femme) looking for a clue on the just right words for my feelings. Haven't quiet found those words yet.

I am thankful for the stone's who still claim lesbian as part of them. I guess I think of lesbian much like my maiden name. It is so much a part of me, my past, present and family of origin I don't want to give it up just to move into a new commitment with myself.

morningstar55 04-14-2012 05:50 AM

morning stoners
its a somewhat cool , cloudy morning here in Taylor Mi...
wish i was home.
there's a gay bingo event happening there tonight..... thats calling my name. lol

ok this is my 1st time viewing the house of stone.. i do recall this thread on another site.
annnnd seems like there are some interesting things to read and catch up on.
mean time....... have a great weekend everyone.
:)

Electrocell 04-14-2012 08:46 AM

As far as feminizing to me it means I don't like to be touched in my genital area or have anything inserted in me or my breast touched this is my preference because I was molested as a child. Just as some women don't go for going down on a woman or inserting her fingers in a woman that is their preference. I maybe wrong but I think the latter is what SilverStoneFemme was refering to as lesbian sex. It might not be politically correct term to use but some of us may not be as gifted with words as others. What people do in their bedroooms or wherever,with whomever is their business.

*Anya* 04-14-2012 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Anya* (Post 564464)
These two posts have more than a hint of distaste.

TOS for the site stresses tolerance for all identies.

You can be true to your own identity without making negative comments about "that lesbian thing" and "that's lesbian sex" that makes you shudder "shutter" per your post.

Comments like that really bother me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrocell (Post 564714)
As far as feminizing to me it means I don't like to be touched in my genital area or have anything inserted in me or my breast touched this is my preference because I was molested as a child. Just as some women don't go for going down on a woman or inserting her fingers in a woman that is their preference. I maybe wrong but I think the latter is what SilverStoneFemme was refering to as lesbian sex. It might not be politically correct term to use but some of us may not be as gifted with words as others. What people do in their bedroooms or wherever,with whomever is their business.

Electrocell, my point was exactly that. We can be tolerant of each other, have our own sexual boundaries and preferences without any need to make comments such as "shiver", "shudder", put down "that lesbian sex thing" or make snide comments about how another identity chooses to express their sexuality.

That is strictly where other posters and I were coming from.

My ex, with whom I lived with for 19 years was strictly a stone butch for the first 10 years of our relationship. No, I did not try to change her but always honored her boundaries. That they shifted a tiny bit after 10 years, was her idea and choice on very, very rare occasions. My own identity as a lesbian femme remains regardless of how my partner identifies.

I tell you this as I am not ignorant of the stone identity and accept wherever anyone on the Planet is at in terms of theirs.

I simply believe that there is no need to make intolerant comments about other identities or sexual practices, while honoring who and what our own personal identity is.

That is it in a nutshell.

The_Lady_Snow 04-14-2012 09:34 AM

Disagree
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrocell (Post 564714)
As far as feminizing to me it means I don't like to be touched in my genital area or have anything inserted in me or my breast touched this is my preference because I was molested as a child. Just as some women don't go for going down on a woman or inserting her fingers in a woman that is their preference. I maybe wrong but I think the latter is what SilverStoneFemme was refering to as lesbian sex. It might not be politically correct term to use but some of us may not be as gifted with words as others. What people do in their bedroooms or wherever,with whomever is their business.



I disagree on your take of the OP's wording. Her use of "that lesbian thing" followed by an LOL anddd a "shutter" is not lesbian friendly references for "me" and it seems other folks.


She even went as far as to say

"that lesbian sex"

Clarifying she wasn't no lesbian.

Allll that led me to conclude she's kinda eeewing lesbian sex like there's something wrong with it.


Can we stop ewwwing, using derogatory terms against others when stating our desires.

SilverStoneFemme 04-14-2012 01:40 PM

i see the word warriors are out in force.

i dislike sushi......*shutter*......even thinking about it makes me shiver.....can't help it i'm a hardcore cooked fish eater.

That someone could take MY preference about what I LIKE AND DISLIKE and apply it to a whole community of people is unbelievable. my personal dislike for something doesn't demean those who have a preference for whatever it is that i don't care for.

i have the right to have my own preferences. If someone else dislikes stone sex, and finds it distasteful, and the vast majority of folx in the queer community AREN'T stone, that is not something i take personally. It simply means to each their own and one (wo)man's meat is another (wo)man's poison.

i made it clear that i was referring to MYSELF. Lesbian sex is not something i will ever do because, FOR ME, it's distasteful. Because i am a stonefemme.

Many folx find stone sex distasteful. They are entitled to their own personal preferences....and this is not something i would ever take away from them. Let them have whatever they think is appropriate FOR THEM.

i don't demean others for they personal preferences.......don't demean me for mine.

Should i get kicked off from this website, then so be it. i'll accept it. However, i did so standing up for my own personal beliefs.

The_Lady_Snow 04-14-2012 01:58 PM

Actually what you said was THIS....
 
Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme

You have the heart of a stonefemme even if you're also able to do that lesbian thing......lol.....*shutter*.....sorry, even thinking of that makes me shiver.....can't help it, i'm a hard core stonefemme............
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme


There are things i won't do, sexually, on an every day basis. Occasionally, ok. But all the time? Nope. That's that lesbian sex and i'm not a lesbian. i'm a queer stonefemme...........






Your wording in the first post was not speaking of your preferences and you insinuated it seems with a shiver and a shutter like it's not ok or something is wrong with it.

People can state their desires without having to be icked out on what others do.









Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme (Post 564857)
i see the word warriors are out in force.

i dislike sushi......*shutter*......even thinking about it makes me shiver.....can't help it i'm a hardcore cooked fish eater.

That someone could take MY preference about what I LIKE AND DISLIKE and apply it to a whole community of people is unbelievable. my personal dislike for something doesn't demean those who have a preference for whatever it is that i don't care for.

i have the right to have my own preferences. If someone else dislikes stone sex, and finds it distasteful, and the vast majority of folx in the queer community AREN'T stone, that is not something i take personally. It simply means to each their own and one (wo)man's meat is another (wo)man's poison.

i made it clear that i was referring to MYSELF. Lesbian sex is not something i will ever do because, FOR ME, it's distasteful. Because i am a stonefemme.

Many folx find stone sex distasteful. They are entitled to their own personal preferences....and this is not something i would ever take away from them. Let them have whatever they think is appropriate FOR THEM.

i don't demean others for they personal preferences.......don't demean me for mine.

Should i get kicked off from this website, then so be it. i'll accept it. However, i did so standing up for my own personal beliefs.


The_Lady_Snow 04-14-2012 01:59 PM

forgot
 
It wasn't till your second post that you said you were not a lesbian. I'm still not sure why you would refer to sex (lesbian sex) as:

"that lesbian thing......lol.."

I'm still trying to figure out the *thing* lesbians do that would be so LOL

Maybe you could clarify what that thing is and why it's LOL


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