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Parker 08-27-2013 11:10 AM

Orange Is The New Black
 
Since so many of us seem to have watched or are watching Orange Is The new Black, I thought maybe we needed a place to hang and chat about the show. :)

I'll start by posting a couple of my favorite gifs from HuffPost's 12 Life lessons From Orange Is The New Black:


http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com...47rbo1_400.gif


http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com...7khoo2_500.gif


But this thread doesnt have to be all about pics, memes, and gifs - post whatever you want about the show. :winky:


ZoeyJayne 08-27-2013 11:12 AM

I ended up watching this show because I wanted to see what all the hype was about... and all I have to say is ... Is Season 2 out yet ??? * impatiently waits*

WingsOnFire 08-27-2013 11:12 AM

now my curiousity is piqued... will have to go watch tonight and follow up.. :)

Apocalipstic 08-27-2013 11:28 AM

Love it! Fav show in quite a white.

Who are you favorites? I love Crazy Eyes and Big Boo!!!!

Parker 08-27-2013 11:34 AM

Clearly (lol) I love Crazy Eyes - but I also love Alex; and Nicki is in my top 5 faves. :)

Dykea 08-27-2013 11:43 AM

Everyday I'm SHUFFLING
 
IF I were still your WIFE... I would tell you EVERYDAY how much I like your TITTIES!


Parker 08-27-2013 11:50 AM

I added a poll so people could vote on their favorite characters - there were so many of them that I had to leave some people off so feel free to add your fave in the comment section if she (or he) isnt in the poll.

Dykea 08-27-2013 11:54 AM

HOLY FUCK???
 
You left out THE ONE ACTUAL LESBIAN in the POLL...
BIG BOO????

Seriously?? The ONE actual butch lesbian in MEDIA Parker???

Parker 08-27-2013 11:57 AM

Oh stop - I was already up to over a dozen people - I had to make a cut SOMEWHERE!

Apocalipstic 08-27-2013 12:02 PM

Sniff. Big Boo!

LOL

Dykea 08-27-2013 12:04 PM

RIGHT???
 
ONE FUCKING BUTCH IN MEDIA!!!
We can't even get the butches to see her!!!

Parker 08-27-2013 12:07 PM

Oh come ON! I named off all the people in my poll and you didnt say a WORD about Lea's character until I posted the damn thing! :deadhorse:

If I could edit the poll, I totally would. :blush:

Dykea 08-27-2013 12:22 PM

Interview w/Big Boo!!!
 
Here's a great interview w/DeLaria about her role... :)

Click here for the link

deathbypoem 08-27-2013 12:29 PM

I have not seen this yet. Have heard quite a bit about it though. However, I do not have netflix at this time. Shame on it! I'll be catching up soon.

PinkieLee 08-27-2013 01:40 PM

Oh Crazy Eyes :)
 

PinkieLee 08-27-2013 01:43 PM


Queenie 08-28-2013 08:07 AM

I LOVE this show! I am so glad there is a thread for it now. You need to watch it! It's odd, but in a really fab way. And its done by the person who did weeds. I love Piper. Cause I am a lot like, Piper. Oh in more ways then most of you are aware of. And I would so DO her her ex, Alex!

Hollylane 08-28-2013 10:51 AM

I'm totally bummed that I have finished the final episode of the season...I didn't think I would like this show, at all. But, I love it!

candy_coated_bitch 08-28-2013 12:07 PM

I LOVED this show. I feel like it just became so trendy to love it for a while that I didn't even WANT to like it, but I did. I am also so sad I watched the end of the first season.!!!! I am totally a binge watcher when it comes to TV shows, and at the end if I really like the show I almost feel lonely without the characters.

I feel like the series is clever, and funny, and crazy, and somehow real at the same time. I've never been to prison but I can see a lot of this kind of thing actually happening LOL. And I liked the treatment of different kinds of Queer issues in the show.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2013 12:17 PM

I watched the whole season in a week!

Parker, not dissing you about Big Boo, just amused that Butches seem to often not see each other. lmao.

PinkieLee 08-28-2013 12:28 PM

I watched the entire season in 3 days :)

For a day or so, someone had uploaded all the episodes to Youtube. Well, they got taken down. Of course I had to resort to signing up for Netflix's trial period and then canceled as soon as I finished!!

Parker 08-28-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalipstic (Post 838882)
I watched the whole season in a week!

Parker, not dissing you about Big Boo, just amused that Butches seem to often not see each other. lmao.

Oh, I know you and Dykea were just teasing. :)

For the record though, my not adding her to the poll had nothing to do with me not seeing her or not seeing her as a butch - Lea DeLaria being on the show was one of the first things I noted about it!

But she was a minor character (we didnt see her a ton and they didnt show us her back story) and I figured if I started adding minor characters to the show, I would have to add ALL the characters - and there were over 25 of them!


ahk 08-28-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalipstic (Post 838882)
I watched the whole season in a week!

Parker, not dissing you about Big Boo, just amused that Butches seem to often not see each other. lmao.

I was going to say -- we watched it in 3 days.
Feeling all studly-- and then PinkieLee says the same thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinkieLee (Post 838888)
I watched the entire season in 3 days :)

For a day or so, someone had uploaded all the episodes to Youtube. Well, they got taken down. Of course I had to resort to signing up for Netflix's trial period and then canceled as soon as I finished!!

:hamactor:

Apocalipstic 08-28-2013 04:34 PM

LMAO about Big Boo, minor character...grumble...Lol.

Ha, ank! You and Pinkie can both be OITNB studs!!

Love me some Netflix in general btw.

OK, so can we discuss favorite scenes, or is that spoilerish?

I think I'm about to watch it all again and memorize lines. Lol. :glasses:

dixie 08-28-2013 05:06 PM

Good gawd, I watched the entire season in a day and a half. Then watched it again lol I'm looking forward to season 2 but I'm thoroughly disappointed that Alex will be playing such a minimal role.

p.s. love Big Boo, but love Lea DeLaria anyway lol

Apocalipstic 08-28-2013 05:11 PM

Yay! Dixie is ahead by 1.5 days!!

Can anyone beat that???

:goodluck:

dixie 08-28-2013 05:14 PM

Does it count that I watched it in one day the second time? LOL

not2shygrrl 08-28-2013 05:14 PM

I hear ya!
 
I understand that time frame! Really though I had never heard of OITB until this thread. So I had to go look into it. I am also wondering why the media has not put this out there in a big way? Or am I that removed from social media?? I think it is a great show, characters, and the REAL dig down deep emotional stuff reflecting back to one's self. This is not just some hokey prison show, it stands all on its own! Can't wait for season 2!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by dixie (Post 838984)
Good gawd, I watched the entire season in a day and a half. Then watched it again lol I'm looking forward to season 2 but I'm thoroughly disappointed that Alex will be playing such a minimal role.

p.s. love Big Boo, but love Lea DeLaria anyway lol


Apocalipstic 08-28-2013 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dixie (Post 838988)
Does it count that I watched it in one day the second time? LOL

Heck Ya!

We have a winner!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by not2shygrrl (Post 838989)
I understand that time frame! Really though I had never heard of OITB until this thread. So I had to go look into it. I am also wondering why the media has not put this out there in a big way? Or am I that removed from social media?? I think it is a great show, characters, and the REAL dig down deep emotional stuff reflecting back to one's self. This is not just some hokey prison show, it stands all on its own! Can't wait for season 2!!

Oh My, hokey prison show? Lol. All prison shows are art! Gah. Lol.

Its been all over social media I thought, but what I follow is pretty queer or theatre oriented.

Tangle 08-28-2013 05:48 PM

Lol why do the poll results add up to 168+ %?

Being a nerd I guess-

Parker 08-28-2013 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalipstic (Post 838976)
OK, so can we discuss favorite scenes, or is that spoilerish?

I'm kinda funny about spoilers - in that I really dont care about them and if I was watching something for which I didnt want to see spoilers, I would stay away from threads or social media or articles talking about that show. I remember last season of Walking Dead, I kept all of the episodes and was going to watch them all at once, but I accidentally saw a spoiler about Lori getting killed and I was all, oh now I *have* to watch the season right now! lol

Seriously though, as far as *I* am concerned - discuss whatever you want here!

BUT -- maybe if we put **SPOILER ALERT** at the top of our posts if we are going to discuss a plot or something someone may consider a spoiler, then if someone wants to read the thread but stay surprised about what happens on the show, they can scroll past our post. :winky:

That should probably apply to those of us who also read articles about future plots, cast changes, etc and want to share those. :)




Quote:

Originally Posted by dixie (Post 838984)
Good gawd, I watched the entire season in a day and a half. Then watched it again lol I'm looking forward to season 2 but I'm thoroughly disappointed that Alex will be playing such a minimal role.

p.s. love Big Boo, but love Lea DeLaria anyway lol

This is what I did - I started watching it one afternoon, got about half way through before going to bed, and then finished it up the next day. :)

Then I got all sad because I didnt realize that they released all of season 1 at once and hadnt even started filming season 2 yet. lol

Now I am going to watch it again. :winky:


Oh and I love me some Lea as well - I used to watch her stand-up comedy on TV and I distinctly remember her from that episode of Friends when they had the lesbian wedding and she hit on Phoebe. lol

Chancie 08-28-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalipstic (Post 838986)
Yay! Dixie is ahead by 1.5 days!!

Can anyone beat that???

:goodluck:

Time went backwards when I watched it.

What are we talking about?

:justkidding:

Apocalipstic 08-28-2013 06:28 PM

Ha! Chancie!! Yay!

:danceparty:

Above smileys all in orange! Lol

Kelt 08-28-2013 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by not2shygrrl (Post 838989)
I understand that time frame! Really though I had never heard of OITB until this thread. So I had to go look into it. I am also wondering why the media has not put this out there in a big way? Or am I that removed from social media?? I think it is a great show, characters, and the REAL dig down deep emotional stuff reflecting back to one's self. This is not just some hokey prison show, it stands all on its own! Can't wait for season 2!!

No broadcast networks, cable network, or tv as we know (knew) it involved. This show and 'House of Cards' were produced specifically for Netflix and released for binge watching intentionally.

2nd season of OTNB is filming now.

These shows are in a new class of video entertainment being called 'original online only web television'.

:movieguy:

Guy 08-28-2013 08:14 PM

are you kidding me?
 
I watched part of an episode, yes only part, because I found it to be so totally against what this site promotes! I find it interesting that there are so many feminists and "lesbian pride" women on this site that would promote a such a show that shows lesbian women in a negative mindset. As far as talking to other women about their "pussy tastes so good", how to have sex, having a "prison wife".
Prison life is being glorified in this show, and you are ok with lesbians being shown in this light? I am completely shocked by the reactions on this thread about the show, and the excitement displayed of seeing lesbians portrayed in this manner. I for one, won't be watching.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy (Post 839092)
I watched part of an episode, yes only part, because I found it to be so totally against what this site promotes! I find it interesting that there are so many feminists and "lesbian pride" women on this site that would promote a such a show that shows lesbian women in a negative mindset. As far as talking to other women about their "pussy tastes so good", how to have sex, having a "prison wife".
Prison life is being glorified in this show, and you are ok with lesbians being shown in this light? I am completely shocked by the reactions on this thread about the show, and the excitement displayed of seeing lesbians portrayed in this manner. I for one, won't be watching.

I know, I know! Lol. I get all that

But it cracks me up. Maybe because I see myself in so many of the characters.

For me, its relevant, hysterically funny and even heartwarming. It holds nothing back. I know those people. It speaks truth.

candy_coated_bitch 08-28-2013 09:02 PM

In response to Guy:
 
Interesting. I don't find the show to be anti-feminist, anti-lesbian, or anti-woman at ALL. As a matter of fact, it feels very REAL to me. I'm not sure it glorifies prison at ALL. Maybe if you watched more than one episode, you might realize issues like rape, transphobia, lesbian phobia, misogyny, racism, classism, drug abuse, and much more are dealt with.

I don't think there's anything wrong with talking about how good someone's pussy tastes, or about how to have sex, or anything along that matter. It seems sex positive to me rather than portraying lesbians in a bad light. I don't see where saying those things is misogynistic in and of themselves. Also--the stuff about having a prison wife? I'm pretty sure that's based in the realities of being in prison.

I also don't see where prison life is glorified. From what I've seen--prison is the LAST fucking place I'd want to be!!!!! However, I also think that women in a situation like that are of course going to form relationships and alliances and have successes and failures. I think their humanity is what is being shown.

I dunno, it's hard to analyze when you have only seen part of an episode, but I'm interested in what others think?

candy_coated_bitch 08-28-2013 09:04 PM

PS: And yes--to agree with Apocalipstic, it's also fucking HYSTERICAL!!! It somehow manages to be all those things at once.

Parker 08-28-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candy_coated_bitch (Post 839130)
Interesting. I don't find the show to be anti-feminist, anti-lesbian, or anti-woman at ALL. As a matter of fact, it feels very REAL to me. I'm not sure it glorifies prison at ALL. Maybe if you watched more than one episode, you might realize issues like rape, transphobia, lesbian phobia, misogyny, racism, classism, drug abuse, and much more are dealt with.

I don't think there's anything wrong with talking about how good someone's pussy tastes, or about how to have sex, or anything along that matter. It seems sex positive to me rather than portraying lesbians in a bad light. I don't see where saying those things is misogynistic in and of themselves. Also--the stuff about having a prison wife? I'm pretty sure that's based in the realities of being in prison.

I also don't see where prison life is glorified. From what I've seen--prison is the LAST fucking place I'd want to be!!!!! However, I also think that women in a situation like that are of course going to form relationships and alliances and have successes and failures. I think their humanity is what is being shown.

I dunno, it's hard to analyze when you have only seen part of an episode, but I'm interested in what others think?

I agree with you here and want to add that we also dont often see shows with (a) this many women in strong female leading roles and (b) this many women of color in ensembles such as this.

But to be honest, I dont think women loving this show about other women in very real roles handling very real topics in sometimes serious, sometimes funny ways *needs* to be defended. To anyone.

Hollylane 08-28-2013 10:44 PM

I would challenge anyone (as I challenged myself, after I made assumptions about what this show was about) to at least watch 4 episodes (give it a chance), and get to know a few characters before making a decision. Maybe it won't change your mind, maybe it will.

Personally, I can assure you, that after watching the entire season, I am still a proud, strong, stone-femme, feminist woman. And frankly, I do not feel like enjoying this show should leave us open to being questioned about which direction our moral compasses point, as members of this amazingly diverse and welcoming community.

For me, I found the characters to be wonderful examples of utterly and entirely fallible human beings. I love that they have flaws and strengths. The characters are raw, vulnerable, sexy, loving, kind, mean, fat, skinny, old, young, gay, lesbian, straight, bi-sexual, MTF, butch, femme, confused, uncertain, religious, not religious, have mental health issues, disabilities, drug problems, successes, failures...etc...etc...I love that so many of them are owning their shit, and growing, despite being incarcerated. I love that this show brings up every ism on every spectrum imaginable, and throws these isms in the viewers' face, so they can see exactly how ugly and stupid isms really are.

I would be insulted if the characters back stories and current experiences were less fucked up, or less heartbreaking, or if the primary characters were weak, pretty (average 20-30 year old straight male viewers' version of pretty), straight women who were LWIP (lesbians while in prison), who were prayed upon by the scary godless lesbians. Luckily, that is not what is happening on this program.


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