Pat Robertson claims Haiti is cursed; earthquake caused by Haiti's pact with the devil.
 

Pat Robertson claimed on National television that Haiti was struck by earthquake because they are cursed. They made a pact with the devil in 1791for the overthrow of the French occupation, and have been cursed ever since. They need to get right with God or continue to face these disasters.

I can't understand why Christians continue to allow this hate filled man to speak for them. To me this is a hate crime, and he should be arrested. I've been listening to him spew hate for over thirty years, and I continue to be shocked by the things that come out of his mouth.

Comments, please.
Keri
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http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/13/robertson-haiti/

Sorry, forgot to put the link in when I first posted this.

that doesnt surprise me that someone that claimed to be a man of god would say that....
i have a religious guy at work that said that the china eathquakes were punishment from god for being pagen.....

Does anyone even pay attention to Robertson any more. He's stuck his foot in his mouth so many times that I think everyone just rolls their eyes and moves on.

Rufus

What a friggen idiot...

I wonder if they have a change of seasons on his planet...

If you think this man is without influence you are seriously kidding yourself. I wasn't able to quickly find the size of their audience in the last year or so, but it is large. There are 20,000 members of the 700 club alone, They have all pledged to send $20.00 per month to support the broadcasting of the 700 club. This membership alone provides an income of almost 5 million to the show. The 700Club gets over 4 Million prayer requests per year. more information is provided lower on the page.

Listed below is income from their income state ment for the year 2007, showing inccome of $467,700,652 for that one year alone. This information is from the Better Business Bureau Website This income/expense information is for just ONE year - 2007.

The following information is based on CBN's audited combined (with subsidiaries and affiliated organizations) financial statements for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2007:

Source of Funds
Ministry support 248,178,057
Gifts-in-kind 212,290,090
Other revenue 5,712,944
Investment income, net 1,519,561
Total Income $467,700,652

Uses of Funds as a % of Total Expenses

Programs: 90% Fund Raising: 6% Administrative: 4%

Total income $467,700,652
Program expenses $424,007,364
Fund raising expenses 30,413,115
Administrative expenses 18,015,861

Total expenses $472,436,340
Expenses in Excess of Income (4,735,688)
Beginning net assets 219,502,393
Other Changes in Net Assets 114,224
Ending net assets 214,880,929
Total liabilities 42,975,645
Total assets $257,856,574

This money is in trust - a holding of money for Pat Robertson and his wife. Not bad for a simple follower of Christ, is it? This is not his annual income. This is a trust. Income is separate.

CBN's auditors have indicated that for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2007, they were unable to apply audit procedures to the stated fair value of the interest in charitable trust of $67,297,000. The charitable trust being referred to was established by CBN's founder, Pat Robertson. According to Note 6 of CBN's audited financial statements for the year ended March 31, 2007, the assets of the trust are not controlled by CBN and will be distributed to the organization in 2010, or upon the the death of the founder and his wife, whichever is later. The value for the contribution receivable from the trust recorded by CBN is based on information originally provided by the trustee and was discounted at the date of the gift to reflect the present value of the estimated future distribution receivable from the trust. The trustee has reported no changes in the value of the trust. Changes in market values or various assumptions could result in material increases or decreases in the present value of the receivable from the trust.


On the Christian Broadcasting Network website I found this information:
Hosted by Pat Robertson, Terry Meeuwsen, and Gordon Robertson with news anchor Lee Webb, The 700 Club is a mix of news and commentary, interviews, feature stories, and Christian ministry.

Seen in 95 percent of the television markets across the United States, the program is carried on ABC Family Channel cable network, FamilyNet, Trinity Broadcasting Network, and numerous U.S. television stations and is seen daily by approximately one million viewers.
WorldReach broadcasts, which include the international editions of The 700 Club, have been viewed in more than 70 foreign languages, can be seen in more than 200 countries, and are accessible throughout the year by more than 1.5 billion people around the world.

This man/company is worth some serious dough, wields enormous influence and has held several of our recent presidents by the balls. Obama seems to be similarly hamstrung gy the Christian right. To underestimate him (Robertson) is a mistake.
Smoooches,
Keri

Pat Robertson is just doing what he always has done,profit form other ppl..He couldnt hold an honest job if he tryed.There ought to be a law for ppl like him to be put away somewhere so they can leave the rest of the decent folks in this world alone.I know some ppl that are hoodwinked out of there hard earned money would be better off.
Rockin

So slow he actually missed the guy who made the pact. I dunno, but seems to me that 200 years late and wiping out generations that had nothing to do with the french imperialism is a tad overkill.

Showoff! :whoop:

While we're on Pat and CBN... keep an eye on your ballots in Nov...
They don't just hate Haitians...

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2010/J...-Gay-Marriage/

anti-christ
 

it is my opinion that Pat and his crew are really the leading troops for the coming of the anti-christ. They suck in all the stupid people and march on. I have no seen them announce any donations to helping these poor people.

Evil is still evil, no matter whose name you invoke it.


wolfwalker :fudd:

Maybe he does believe in curses. While he has no missions in Haiti, he has quite a few in French speaking ( formerly French occupied) countries in Africa.

May have to look up where he stood with the American boycott of all things "French" after shock and awe. Bet he has a blessed fry daddy for his secret stash of french fries!

Alas, I should pray for him.

Sweet dreams Pat :chasingzombie::chasingzombie::chasingzombie:


Sends him a nice choc bunny for Easter... :eatthebunny:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsvlqdPg8XU"]YouTube- Curse of the Zombie Jesus![/ame]

Its a mistake to believe that the "Pat Robertsons" of the world have no bearing on the inner workings of the US. The man has half a billion dollars coming in yearly for his "mission". Politics (and politicians) are controlled by money and Pat Robertson is heavily invested in politics (not just in the US, he is also heavily invested overseas).

Its a mistake to think that Pat is just a moronic old fool (although he is). That fool and others of his ilk control votes in our Congress and Senate. THAT is what is really terrifying about this.

Dig a little deeper about his financial empire.

He has several diamond and other gemstone mines all over Africa...........

He and that man in the funny hat and dress better known as the Pope are both evil fuckers.

But dayam, I love those shoes!!!

clicks red heels together " there's no place like Rome, there's no place like Rome"

(((Toughy,)))

You got all upset when someone accused Mary Daly of being transphobic. How'd you think the Catholics on the site are going to feel when they see the Pope - you know, the guy in the dress who just happens to be the head of the Catholic Church? - being labelled an 'evil fucker'?

I'm not a Christian, let alone Catholic, and really don't care for the current pope myself. Evil fucker though? C'mmon.

Words

Robertson is a man of frightening undue influence, and his ilk are highly influential in U.S. politics. Take a look at Wikipedia on "The Fellowship" aka "The Family" (Google for lots more info, or watch Rachel Maddow give you an overview.)

The United States isn't as politically conservative, especially on social issues, as it is because of the "Moral Majority" or high levels of voter backlash against boogeymen. There is some of that, but it's not where the power is. It is because there are people with loads of power and money who are very invested in ensuring that conservatism, and who network, recruit, support in all kinds of ways, people to do the work to make that happen. Some of the faces change, but the mission statement remains the same. It's like the "good ol' boy network," but specifically for socially conservative Christianist politicians and political workers (lobbyists, Congressional and White House staffers, etc.).

Some of them are cynics looking for a good hook into power, and others are true believers in the cause, but either way the net result is the perpetuation of ultra-conservative mores, especially in circles of influence.

im rolling my eyes reading this now......... lol :huhlaugh:

Considering Mary Daly was a catholic.... Many many catholics around the world over the years have been ummmm... dissatisfied with the politics of women in the church.

Evil fucker? no. misguided? yes.

Curse Reversed...
 

Amen = so be it *,
as exclaimed by the many watching Robertson and cronies on TV.

I was cruising the Pacific Coast highway from San Diego along a beautiful stretch enjoying the view of the ocean** when I crashed..No.not really** the ocean, and heard a story about the voodoo curse being lifted by a group years ago. So I guess Pat R. didn't know God reversed the worse curse cause Pat doesn't listen to public radio :farmeggs: . If we are what we eat, are we what we listen too also.? Thinking I will tune in to the Kids channel so I can be a super hero today..:unicorn: Since the airwaves bring the truth, as does the written word to many, thought I would contribute to the knowledge base.. tells the truth and nothing but the truth so help me God. (doesn't say which God) So, here is the link and part of the story I heard...for those who like to read..--->http://redtory.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/haiti’s-“devil-pact”-explained/

Excerpt below:

So there… even if one actually subscribes to the “Devil Pact” legend, as Robertson appears to, the unholy contract was voided some years ago by Christian do-gooder


On 14 August 1997, God’s people in Haiti experienced a historic victory over Satan, a milestone in winning our country back for God. The reason lies in history. The slaves brought here from Africa have suffered incredibly for many years. On 14 August 1791, a slave leader by the name of Boukman called a secret meeting in a wood called Bois-Caiman near Cap Haitien, which was attended by a large number of slaves. They celebrated a satanic ceremony, sacrificing a pig and drinking its blood, swore to serve the Devil and dedicated Haiti to him. For 206 years, Bois-Caiman was a very holy place, a high place which could only be entered by witch doctors during Voodoo ceremonies. For 206 years, they have been meeting there every August 14 to sacrifice to Satan.

A number of Christian leaders, including Paul and Gerald Clerie of Vision: Haiti and Christian leaders among the large numbers of Haitians in the USA, Canada, France and other countries, called Christians to unite on 14 August 1997 to pray and fast that Haiti would return to God. In Haiti’s towns, villages and mountains, Christians came together to fast and pray, held victory marches in the streets and a large event in the capital from 6am to 10pm during the holy invasion.

Our church members started their march in front of the President’s palace and marched for 6 hours to the place where the satanic ceremony took place 206 years ago. We had informed the government and media of our intentions weeks before the event, and were told that the witch doctors would be there, as they were every year. When we arrived, they had hidden themselves, unable to directly confront the Christians. It was a significant spiritual battle to reach the tree under which the pig was sacrificed in the original ceremony. We formed a Jericho march, circling the magic tree seven times. On the seventh time around, God gave many people a vision of the Devil fleeing from the area. The Christians were overjoyed. We cancelled the satanic contract and broke the curse, before celebrating communion and dedicating the area as a place of prayer. We also declared 14 August to be a national prayer day, on which people should pray that Haiti will return to God.

On the same day, several witch doctors were saved during the events in the capital. Three days after our holy invasion, the witch doctors returned to Bois-Caiman to bring their sacrifices and call on the spirits. After days of effort, nothing happened, because we had commanded the spirits never to return and dedicated the area to Christ.

The witch doctors complained to the government and media. At first, the government also protested, speaking in a press release of ‘terrible damage to a Voodoo holy place in which no Christian had set foot for 206 years.’ By the grace of God, the government relented and respected our legal right as Haitians to gather at any place on Haiti, including Bois-Caiman, where they now allow all Christian groups to meet. The place is now very popular, and local Christians gather there daily for prayer and fasting. All Haitians now know that the country no longer has a pact with the Devil; the contract has been cancelled, the curse broken.

So there… even if one actually subscribes to the “Devil Pact” legend, as Robertson appears to, the unholy contract was voided some years ago by Christian do-gooder..." see link for full story.

There is hope. We have our own Planet...speaking the language of LOVE...

I understand, but from where I sit, they are inextricably linked. Conservatism is about preserving a way of life based on the kyrarchy; racism is an integral part of that.

Now, many people may call themselves conservative or hold conservative positions without consciously supporting racism, without believing in the most base credo of racism (that there are natural or divinely-given differences among races which result in racial superiority and inferiority), but when their choices and actions support a kyriarchy that reifies positions of privelege linked to race, class, ethnicity, sex, gender, religion, national origin, etc., the end result is one of reaffirming those racist beliefs and their power in our culture.

Hope not to derail, but what is kyrachy/kyriarchy? I tried to look it up so I could read your post in context, but can't find a definition.

Much appreciated.

Sorry, I typed too fast and misspelled at least once. It's kyriarchy.

Basically, it's a more complex model of power-over structures which acknowleges that while someone might have privilege (been misspelling that one all day!) in some areas, that same person may be lacking privilege in others. Under the standard "patriarchy keeps us down" rhetoric, it is understood that the people with most power in our culture (and yes, I'm being somewhat U.S.-centric, as it is what I know best) are white men. But what about white men who are blue collar workers? Or homeless? Or not able-bodied? Or transmen? Or gay? They may all still get privilege on the basis of race and gender, but privilege is not static and is relative and their resulting position in the kyriarchy may be significantly lower than, for example, a successful, able-bodied black male entrepeneur.

Does that help?

Thanks a lot! Interesting concept and worth looking up. Many words haven't made it into "traditional " dictionaries yet, so i appreciate the time in helping me with this.

Absolutely! I only first encountered the word a couple of years ago myself, but I appreciate the acknowlegement it allows to the complexity of power-over structures and the intersections of racism, classism, sexism, ableism, ageism, sizeism and all the other "isms" that impact our access to power and privilege.

That may be a comforting belief but I think Robertson does, in fact, have quite a following. Not only does he have his own show (which is syndicated on a lot of stations) but he has his own network. He has the ear of Republican politicians AND, keep in mind, he's just one who *said* it. How many people will hear something similar on Sunday?

Having deprogrammed myself from a fundamentalist Christian mindset a decade ago, I tend to take folks like Robertson, Hagee, Warren, et. al. *very* seriously. I presume that they mean what they say and say precisely what they mean. What's more, I presume that there are any number of people who believe the things that they spew forth. It can be very comfortable to dismiss Robertson as just some old cook sitting in a basement somewhere but I think that the time for that is past.

I watched the queer movement dismiss the Christian right through the nineties, writing them off as some kind of rump movement of maybe a thousand people sitting in some basement church while all the while, the CR gathered strength, executing their stealth strategy with commitment and discipline. Their views have consequences and those of us who stand to lose the most from them coming to power would be well-served to take them seriously and to make certain that their words are heard beyond the safe circle where their ideas are welcome.

Cheers
Aj

Pat Robertson is delusional. God is love. Nothing more, nothing less. What Robertson is spewing is hatred. I am glad I won't be in his shoes when he meets his maker.