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princessbelle 06-23-2010 01:21 PM

Advice needed....my baby (puppy) is having surgery
 
My bella is 5 months old and she is a shih tzu. She has what is called Distichia which means she has tiny hairs growing out of her eyelid margin that are rubbing her cornea. She has had one ulcer already that has healed and the specialist today told me she needs surgery so that she don't get another ulcer and possibly go blind.

Ok course I will do anything for her. She is my baby. I'm terrified though, more than that, I simply am beside myself with worry.

Number one she is so little and to be put "under" this young is terrifying.

Number two, the vet hospital told me that she will be there from Monday night (surgery is early Tuesday morning) until possibly Friday or maybe Thursday. OMG we have not been apart more than a few hours when i work.

I'm so afraid she will be so scared and spending all of those nights alone, in a cage just is ripping my heart out. It is a teaching hospital however and told me that there is someone there 24 7, which is a little comforting.

Questions....

Has anyone's animals had this before? The procedure is called electroepilation.

Has anyone had a baby that young, five months, had surgery before? They said she is too little to have the IV sedation and has to have gas...

When your babies have had surgery and were there more than overnight. Did you visit them? They said i could but then a friend mentioned that that may be harder on her if she sees me and then i go away again? I don't know. I'm just bawling my eyes out and I guess need some info and support, white light, prayer, whatever it is you can throw my way.

The surgery will be toward the end of July. Thanks in advance....

Sachita 06-23-2010 01:36 PM

I'm so sorry. If her life is not in danger you should get other opinions. Dont do this because one vet advises it.

suebee 06-23-2010 01:39 PM

I don't know any dogs who've had this procedure, but I have known a couple of humans. It seemed fairly uncomplicated and they healed well. I imagine that the biggest worries with a puppy are keeping her from disturbing the surgical site, and avoiding any kind of infection. As for visiting: the staff should be able to help you judge what is best for her. You might want to consider visiting her and getting feedback from them as to how it affected her. My thoughts are that although she might be upset when you leave, at least seeing you will assure her that you're not abandoning her. My thought is that this might avoid separation anxiety in the future. I'm not an expert by any means but have had dogs all my life and that's my gut feeling. Wishing your baby (and you!) well in coping with it all!

Sue :floatbee:

princessbelle 06-23-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sachita (Post 136823)
I'm so sorry. If her life is not in danger you should get other opinions. Dont do this because one vet advises it.

You are so right and I knew I would leave out info that was needed in my original post, guess I'm just so worried didn't think about that one.

Her main vet is who told me about the eye problem and sent me to a specialist. It is in a teaching hospital and that was today's appointment. There were 6 internists and senior students involved in the case I suppose since this may be kinda rare? Anyway, the vet today even had me wear the "darth vader" head gear and see for myself. They are there...teeny tiny little hairs laying right on her eye.

I do feel confident that this needs to be done. I just have do deal with doing it. Thank you for your words of comfort and thank you for responding...means the world to me.

Andrew, Jr. 06-23-2010 01:44 PM


Princess,

Get a second opinion. Do not just go with what 1 vet says. I have a friend of mine who just does anything and everything her vet says. So now, she is in the hole several thousands dollars. She had had everything under the sun done to her cats, dogs, and bird. She was thinking of taking in a chipmonk who comes to her and takes bread & peanuts out of her hand to eat. Medical doctors are the same way. If they find out you will spend money, they will milk you for repeat office visits, and needless surgeries, and so on. Same goes with our furkids. We have to watch out for them.

The one suggestion I may ask of you to do is this - ask Violaine. She is very good with info. on most everything on all kinds of our pets. She is brilliant. Truely. She maybe able to help you.

Please keep us posted on this. I am a huge animal lover. I will keep you and your baby in my thoughts and prayers. Peace be with you both.

Love,
Drew


princessbelle 06-23-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybersuebee (Post 136825)
I don't know any dogs who've had this procedure, but I have known a couple of humans. It seemed fairly uncomplicated and they healed well. I imagine that the biggest worries with a puppy are keeping her from disturbing the surgical site, and avoiding any kind of infection. As for visiting: the staff should be able to help you judge what is best for her. You might want to consider visiting her and getting feedback from them as to how it affected her. My thoughts are that although she might be upset when you leave, at least seeing you will assure her that you're not abandoning her. My thought is that this might avoid separation anxiety in the future. I'm not an expert by any means but have had dogs all my life and that's my gut feeling. Wishing your baby (and you!) well in coping with it all!

Sue :floatbee:

Sue, your words are precious comfort to me. That makes sense. I WILL ask them what they think and try it on the first day of seperation and see how it goes. Someone may have to help me out the door though...lol. However, this is about her and what is best for her. I have to stay strong. And god knows i'm trying. Thanks again....

princessbelle 06-23-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr. (Post 136831)

Princess,

Get a second opinion. Do not just go with what 1 vet says. I have a friend of mine who just does anything and everything her vet says. So now, she is in the hole several thousands dollars. She had had everything under the sun done to her cats, dogs, and bird. She was thinking of taking in a chipmonk who comes to her and takes bread & peanuts out of her hand to eat. Medical doctors are the same way. If they find out you will spend money, they will milk you for repeat office visits, and needless surgeries, and so on. Same goes with our furkids. We have to watch out for them.

The one suggestion I may ask of you to do is this - ask Violaine. She is very good with info. on most everything on all kinds of our pets. She is brilliant. Truely. She maybe able to help you.

Please keep us posted on this. I am a huge animal lover. I will keep you and your baby in my thoughts and prayers. Peace be with you both.

Love,
Drew


Hey you....thank you so very much. I did get a second opinion, see post below. Should have mentioned that in my opening post, sorry to have left that out. Violaine, don't know them. Are they here on this site? I'll see if i can hunt them down and pm them.

Thanks for the advice and ty for keeping us in your prayers and thoughts. That is exactly what I need. Hugs to you.

cinderella 06-23-2010 02:13 PM

My sweet, darling friend. My heart goes out to you. wish I could be there to comfort you. Please call me if you want to talk about it. I will say a special prayer for my itty 'niece' Bella tonight. I love you and Bella. Please know I'm just a phone call away. Love you and Bella, darlin'.

Random 06-23-2010 02:17 PM

Bella, I'm sorry about your puppy..


Just like in a human, any time they go under there is a risk..

But that being said..

I have assisted in about 15 proceedures using gas on a young cat/dog and they all came out of it..

It's not a hard proceedure, it's just because she can't verbalize what she is feeling, that she needs to stay with the vet for a lil bit of time...

If it's a teaching hospital, then yes, someone is going to be there and she is going to be loved on... She might be a lil scared, but honestly, when we had babies in for longer than over nights, we loved on them...

At the vet hospital that I worked at.. We didn't recomend visits...(for non critical animals) The repeate separation tended to be more stressful than the waiting... Truthfully, I don't know if that is true or not.. that was just the vet's policy...

I know it's a hard thing, but separation is not always a bad thing... It teaches them that you do come back...

princessbelle 06-23-2010 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by June (Post 136855)
PB -- We rescued a Shih Tzu about 1.5 years ago. He only has one eye. Soon after he came home, he developed an ulcer in his good eye. $500.00 later and hourly eye drops, it was okay, but it left a permanent scar on his eye

Please, if you can afford it, have the surgery done because they can't tell you when they are in pain. We only knew Jack's good eye was going bad because he was stumbling around (couldn't see). We thought he'd had a stroke.

Your dog will be fine and in good care. She will be glad to see you when you come to pick her up, but she will sleep fine.

Jack gets along fine with just the one eye, but I'm sure he'd rather have both of them. The vet said that his other eye probably got infected and literally rotted away. There was no sign of any medical attention to his eye socket. I get chills thinking about how much pain he must have gone through during that time. We have another Shih Tzu who's eyes are fine, we keep both of them groomed pretty close around their faces though. I will see if I can find a picture of them to post.

--June

(((((((((June)))))))))) Thank you for posting. I have heard that shih tzu's do have eye problems. OMG that Jack of yours is so lucky to have you as an owner. Makes me cringe at any neglect to any animal as I know that is how most of us feel. I can afford it financially...it's emotionally that is the problem.

But, I will do what is best for her, not necessarily what is best for me. I am glad your other Shih Tzu's eyes are doing great.

Would love to see your babies. I have one posted of bella as well.

Thanks again and bless you for your post and advice.

Abigail Crabby 06-23-2010 02:32 PM

Dear Belle

Please keep us posted on your babie's recovery. She's is so lucky to have such a loving Mommie!!!

Will be keeping her in my thoughts and prayers for a swift recovery and home to you as soon as possible..

Jesse 06-23-2010 02:42 PM

If it makes you feel better, make arrangements to go visit one time right after her surgery just so that you can see for yourself that she is doing okay after the surgery. The separation will likely be harder on you than it is on her, as she will get lots of loving. :)

princessbelle 06-23-2010 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 136859)
My sweet, darling friend. My heart goes out to you. wish I could be there to comfort you. Please call me if you want to talk about it. I will say a special prayer for my itty 'niece' Bella tonight. I love you and Bella. Please know I'm just a phone call away. Love you and Bella, darlin'.

Cinde, I adore you sweetheart and ty for your kindness and words of comfort. It means so much to me. I will keep you informed and call you this weekend, when i'm "on the road". Love to you!!!!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Random (Post 136864)
Bella, I'm sorry about your puppy..


Just like in a human, any time they go under there is a risk..

But that being said..

I have assisted in about 15 proceedures using gas on a young cat/dog and they all came out of it..

It's not a hard proceedure, it's just because she can't verbalize what she is feeling, that she needs to stay with the vet for a lil bit of time...

If it's a teaching hospital, then yes, someone is going to be there and she is going to be loved on... She might be a lil scared, but honestly, when we had babies in for longer than over nights, we loved on them...

At the vet hospital that I worked at.. We didn't recomend visits...(for non critical animals) The repeate separation tended to be more stressful than the waiting... Truthfully, I don't know if that is true or not.. that was just the vet's policy...

I know it's a hard thing, but separation is not always a bad thing... It teaches them that you do come back...

Random, your information is so wonderful to me. Thank you for that!!! I do have a good feeling about the love that they gave while I was there today. She was just adored by them and they held her and kissed on her and made me feel really good about the love they have for the animals there. It is a huge teaching hospital here at the University of Tennessee. I had asked them if i could spend the night with her and that is when they told me that they do have "visiting hours". It is so nice to hear that if they stay a little long they get a little extra attention. Thanks for those words of comfort.

Quote:

Originally Posted by June (Post 136863)
You can see them >Here<

They are absolutely precious June

Delish 06-23-2010 02:48 PM

Belle~

One more thing about Shitzu's you may or may not know. They are prone to kidney problems. We learned this the hard way when ours ended up having to have a stint put in his kidney.

I will be keeping you and Bella in my prayers :)

princessbelle 06-23-2010 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abigail Crabby (Post 136885)
Dear Belle

Please keep us posted on your babie's recovery. She's is so lucky to have such a loving Mommie!!!

Will be keeping her in my thoughts and prayers for a swift recovery and home to you as soon as possible..

Thank you sweet Abigail. I will keep you posted. Thank you for keeping us in your prayers.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tranzman (Post 136901)
If it makes you feel better, make arrangements to go visit one time right after her surgery just so that you can see for yourself that she is doing okay after the surgery. The separation will likely be harder on you than it is on her, as she will get lots of loving. :)

I believe you are right Tranzman, I don't think i could stand it not knowing if she was ok. That week I will probably post a lot I'm assuming there will be little sleep...lol. Thanks for your thoughts.

princessbelle 06-23-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delish (Post 136907)
Belle~

One more thing about Shitzu's you may or may not know. They are prone to kidney problems. We learned this the hard way when ours ended up having to have a stint put in his kidney.

I will be keeping you and Bella in my prayers :)

I believe i did read that prior to adopting her but honestly hadn't thought any more about it. Thanks for that. I will keep watch on it. I am a nurse but i'll tell you, just like with my kids, when a sickness hits home, it is terrifying no matter what the training. Thank you for your sweet thoughts.

Soft*Silver 06-23-2010 04:16 PM

BFF...this is going to be harder on you than it is on her. She will be scared for a little while until she gets use to the sounds and smells, but her purpose there will happen, and then she will be sedated and her recovery will stretch out the hours until she can come home to you.

I agree with Random about separation not being a bad thing. When my daughter was little and in preschool, oh she tantrumed when I dropped her off. She didnt want me to go. The teacher finally had to take my arm and pull me out of the room because I was so caught in my daughter's tears. The teacher said the same thing...my daughter had to learn I was going to come back. And the only way you can teach that was to leave and then, come back.

I have started a little prayer book...it stays on my alter until I begin the prayers of the day. You and Bella will be in it today...

princessbelle 06-23-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by softness (Post 136981)
BFF...this is going to be harder on you than it is on her. She will be scared for a little while until she gets use to the sounds and smells, but her purpose there will happen, and then she will be sedated and her recovery will stretch out the hours until she can come home to you.

I agree with Random about separation not being a bad thing. When my daughter was little and in preschool, oh she tantrumed when I dropped her off. She didnt want me to go. The teacher finally had to take my arm and pull me out of the room because I was so caught in my daughter's tears. The teacher said the same thing...my daughter had to learn I was going to come back. And the only way you can teach that was to leave and then, come back.

I have started a little prayer book...it stays on my alter until I begin the prayers of the day. You and Bella will be in it today...

Love to you BFF and boy do i miss you. I guess some of us are just harder with the seperation thing than others huh. I did the same when my oldest went to kindergarden the first day, I hung out in the hall and finally the teacher asked me to leave. I guess I've always had these issues. LOL.

Anyway, thanks to you and your prayer book. Means so much to me. Love you honey....


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