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Maverick 03-28-2013 10:01 PM

Marriage Titles
 
I live in one of the states that just recently made it legal for same sex couples to get married. YAY!! As a masculine person I'm having a hard time thinking of myself as anyone's "wife" and I don't think "husband" is fitting either. I am trying to figure out, once I'm legally married what my partner and I will refer to each other as. Any suggestions? Should we stick with the traditional terms or invent some new ones that might fit us better? How wonderful that we are living in an age when these are actual concerns. I'm hoping some of you can come up with some interesting ideas on this subject.

Thanks,
Maverick

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always2late 03-28-2013 10:09 PM

You could use the gender neutral term "spouse" :)

firegal 03-28-2013 10:17 PM

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I think spouse is a great idea! my lil sis and her other half referred to each other as wife...they didn't identify as butch femme.

This site is very familiar with folks being able to choose what fits them or that they identify as.

This is a great topic.

Breezy 03-28-2013 11:03 PM

How about husbutch?

clay 03-28-2013 11:06 PM

^5 Great topic. Mav!
 
Interesting topic.
My GF & I were discussing this recently. We were talking of what would one call the other, etc. Hers would most likely be "husbutch" for me, and mine for her would be "wife". That is just what feels most comfortable to us.

As my great friend doc mentioned, "spouse" is gender neutral, and a good one.

Another great friend, firegal, had a good suggestion, too.

It really all depends on what others are comfortable with...there are many , many wonderful words that could apply in any given situation.

Greyson 03-28-2013 11:13 PM

For me, I am really over the term "My Partner." As a young person I always thought it made my gf and I sound like we were in business together or were partnered to play board games or cards.

I do not see myself as a "husband" because of all the historical misogny wrapped in that term. Spouse works for me. I will admit, I do like the sound of Mr. and Mrs.________.

DamonK 03-28-2013 11:32 PM

I'm with Greyson on Mr. and Mrs.

It shows a united front to me. An unshakable bond.

Husband and wife.

Partner is okay for now because there aren't many options out there for us that are fitting. Spouse is not one I care for. Nor is companion or life companion.

o222Good 03-28-2013 11:34 PM

I thought I would one day hear the words, "I now pronounce you husbutch and wife!"

Glenn 03-29-2013 12:36 AM

Strange..In the thirty or so years I was "married", whenever her family sent us a Christmas card, they would always address the envelope using our first names, but their own family name at the end. When my family send a card, they would use their last names, after our first names. When friends sent us a card or invitation, they used both of our names. We had both of our names on the mailbox.We did'nt call each other anything else besides our own names in all those years. But I still do not see anything at all wrong with the traditional Mr. if you ID as masc/trans for now. I personally, use to like the y used in Syr/Myster.

Chancie 03-29-2013 04:07 AM

For those of you who prefer the title 'husbutch', do you see yourselves using that word out and about, in your everyday lives?

The_Lady_Snow 03-29-2013 06:28 AM

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We use Master and slave, my parents being who they are call him *El Grande* cause my mother has a hard time with calling him slave and pronouncing his name.


Heteronormative titles don't really fit our union, we aren't ever really going to purposefully blend in so what we refer to each other as will be non conventional.

Maverick 03-29-2013 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chancie (Post 774849)
For those of you who prefer the title 'husbutch', do you see yourselves using that word out and about, in your everyday lives?

Good question! I agree, I'm tired of the term "partner" and its blandness. My lady likes the term wife and will use that I believe. Husbutch is a cool idea. I keep trying to picture the person marrying us saying "I now pronounce you ________ and wife!" or "Wife and ________", "Wife and wife"? Eh.. "Husbutch and wife" is better. The cool thing is we get to invent what's right for us and don't have to stick with the traditional hetero wordings if we don't want to. Years ago we made up a secret pet word to use in public for each other where we didn't feel safe or comfortable to say "honey" or 'sweetie" etc. We still use that word a lot but not because we're being stealth anymore. We just love the word now for what it represents to us.

clay 03-29-2013 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chancie (Post 774849)
For those of you who prefer the title 'husbutch', do you see yourselves using that word out and about, in your everyday lives?

To answer your question, yes, I would.
Though personally not really hung up on titles, per se, I am comfortable with anything respectable.

Chancie 03-29-2013 02:38 PM

We use partner all the time. I don't think anyone has ever thought we own a business together. Our respective families use it too. I think Pete uses 'old lady' sometimes when she's talking about me, which I find charming and kind of funny.

I'm talking about running into a colleague or a friend from the gym, someone you know but your honey doesn't know. If you were in the supermarket or something, would you use 'husbutch'?

Kobi 03-29-2013 03:44 PM


I am very comfortable with partner, significant other, or spouse.

As a woman who loves being a woman and does woman her way, I would not be comfortable with something like husbutch, cuz it doesn't reflect who I am.

The only pronouncement I want to hear after our vows is..... I now pronounce you married in the eyes of the law and God.

Toughy 03-29-2013 03:51 PM

I like the term.....beloved

In ceremonies in SF, I have heard folks pronounced spouse and spouse. I believe on the gender neutral CA marriage license (when it was legal), the paperwork said: spouse 1 and spouse 2.

Ascot 03-29-2013 04:11 PM

An ex of mine has a sister who refers to her husband as "my friend". The first time we stayed with them and I heard her say that I was a bit taken aback, but only because I found myself thinking, "What? I thought they were married." I asked my girlfriend about it later and she said, "Oh, yeah, they are married, but my sister thinks "friend" is a much more meaningful honorific.". The point is, as others have said, go with what works for you. Let it evolve as it is wont to do.

Me, I like the ol' classic "ball and chain."

o222Good 03-30-2013 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chancie (Post 774849)
For those of you who prefer the title 'husbutch', do you see yourselves using that word out and about, in your everyday lives?



I have given this some thought, and my answer is this. It comes down to whether I am talking to a straight person, in which case, I would not. Only because they wouldn't get it. I actually don't have any straight friends, so I'm not sure if this would happen anyway. Thanks for a good question!

julieisafemme 03-30-2013 06:39 PM

I love wife! I am happy to be a wife. Greyson prefers spouse for him. Husbutch is fine within the queer community for him but I would not use it with straight people. He will be my spouse.

MsTinkerbelly 03-30-2013 08:20 PM

When we were married we had ourselves pronounced as " I now pronounce you as married in the eyes of God and man", And we call each other wife in public. When we say wife it is immediately understood we are queer.

Not personally fond of husbutch, but to each his own.


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