Law and Order: SVU with Special Guest Kathy Griffin as lesbian
 

A sneak peak at next week's show. I think a lot of people have the hots of Olivia and I'll be curious to see what Kathy's character is all about.


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I'm hoping the fact that they included something so blatently homophobic is a sign that Olivia will coming over to our side. :awww:

WOW!!! Talk about a fantasy for us!

It's actually rather simple, as an ex told me...
They can stare, stuff the green in g-string, but no Touchy...not even for lapdance, if the client touches, the Dance is over{at least, in the place she was in}...
Bouncers make sure the rules are followed...
Once she gets dressed, walks out the doors, she leaves the Job where it belongs.
It can be rough, but Trust is tantamount for things to work with a Stripping girl...

Back to SVU, looking forward to it, my relatives often ask why do I watch it if some episodes can be Triggering..
I just shrug and tell them it's kind of therapeutic...

{btw, if Olivia comes "our" way, more reason to watch finally heh}
:mohawk:

Ya but I think we're only seeing part of it and I suspect, when I think of the character (a straight character), it was probably a "knee-jerk" reaction. I'm hoping that she'll redeem herself later in the episode.

is it me or is the crew laughing
 

I can hear the crew laughing in the back ground..or am I hearing things. When she said ellen,joan crawford, calmity jane ..(laughter) balance check book throw in suszie orman (laughter)
I'm sure there were alot of laughs with her on the set

Ugh, me too!

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Interesting.. I have too known a couple as well. I have wondered the same thing. But, seems that a lot of women do the stripper/exotic dancer thing while young to just make some good money (many college students). So, why wouldn't a lesbian when i really think about it. These dancers are really not prostitutes. So, like the other poster said, the whole sex with men (or just sex, period) thing isn't a factor.

I don't like when straights play queers

Didn't like it in 'Milk', didn't like it on 'Will and Grace', didn't like it on that lesbian Showtime show, didn't like it on that gay Showtime show, and it appears, I won't like it here either.

There's plenty of queers to go around (oh mah lord, even into movies and television!)

It's insulting and privileged and homophobic


I'm Also Bothered By Law And Order SVU...But That's Another Story,
Dylan...crabby about the whole thing

Well....there's a whole lotta buzz about Maristra Harkitray being a big ole closet case. A later-even-than-Jodi coming out situation. But I don't really see it.
What I see is a couple of hets putting on the lezface cluelessly for a bunch of clueless non-lesbians. What is it about lesbianism that makes non-lesbians feel so confident about portraying us, embodying us, exploiting us, co-opting us?

Oh right. The woman thing.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/jacqui.russell/...5BUNSET%5D.jpg

I thought he did a great job

However, I don't like when straights play queer. There's plenty of queers who can act...yet here's a straight guy winning an academy award for playing queer. It's insulting to queers. All of the major actors in that movie were straight, and that's bothersome to me.


Dylan

[QUOTE=Cyclopea;58124]Well....there's a whole lotta buzz about Maristra Harkitray being a big ole closet case. A later-even-than-Jodi coming out situation. But I don't really see it.
What I see is a couple of hets putting on the lezface cluelessly for a bunch of clueless non-lesbians. What is it about lesbianism that makes non-lesbians feel so confident about portraying us, embodying us, exploiting us, co-opting us?

Oh right. The woman thing.

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They're called "actors". Because they act. Nobody here would criticize a gay actor for portraying a straight person. C'mon!

I think she is just a lovely being and a whole latta lesbians wish she was a lesbian. I agree with the lezface lets face it the producers say jump & the actors say how high its a ratings game $$$$ shock-value sells. But no matter we still get air time for better or worse

Doogie Hoozer (can't think of the guy's real name) is in "How I met your mother" and that boy is gay and out. I'm 100% with you on this one. It's acting.

I think a lot of these shows explore this sort of stuff not for ratings as much as to explore it within the art. The Law and Order franchise does a little of both.

I'm a huge Law & Order fan, but I think L&OSVU perpetuates violence against women by desensitizing people to rape and violence against women. It's quite bothersome to me.


Dylan

So what happens when queers play straights? David Hyde Pierce played a straight guy for years. Should he give up that part to a straight guy? Portia de Rossi plays straight parts? Should she refuse these? Jodie Foster? Vin Diesel? Neil Patrick Harris? Should they all refuse straight parts because they are gay?

I don't have a problem with straight people playing gay parts. It wasn't that long ago that straight people were scared to take gay roles because they were afraid of their careers. Famous straight actors taking on high profile gay parts, I think, helps all queers all over the world. Actors are no longer afraid to take on this role. Middle America gets their eyes opened a bit. You don't think Tom Hanks playing that role in Philadelphia helped us all lurch forward politically a few steps? And many of these actors use their time, money and position to support gay rights. I am in no way offended when any straight actor takes a queer role.

Consider this - there might be a lot of die hard Sean Penn fans who went to see Milk because he was in it. They came of the movies with an education about Milk and what he did. THe movie made Milk a person and it showed the long hard road of gay rights activism. Tom Hanks humanized AIDS. People saw that film. Saw Hanks in that film. And it changed many viewpoints about AIDS and the queer community.


Rufus