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Old 01-22-2012, 10:19 AM   #1970
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Thank you for that rousing commentary. It spurred me to get into some reading, which led to watching, which led to...never mind, suffice to say it is time well spent. This video reviewed some of the points in your post and gives a quick background on what is fueling the movement for real government by the people. I particularly appreciated, near the end of the video, the plea to support across parties for a common cause. Any opinions on his idea of the "first 50 dollar project"? He does say in the Q&A video that a constitutional amendment is necessary but may prove difficult. Focus is on real change though. Obviously heavy monetary control over congress was alive and well before Citizens United and an amendment would not be a panacea.

I am in the process of reading about the currently ongoing development of the vision and strategy of the movement. Framing our rights as rights rather then entitlements how radical. lol I would appreciate any links to particularly enlightening articles.

Wading through the BS to find viable, unskewed information is difficult; calling for cooperative energy. I appreciate your tireless effort toward this end.
You are not just another pretty face. <w>

I like Lawrence Lessig. Of course if you scratch his liberalism too hard you will find a conservative underneath, but that can be said about many a liberal I imagine. And at this point it isn't about whether you stand to the left or to the right, it's more about whether you want to regain control of your country. He has some good ideas and he has spoken out and worked against insane copyright infringement and anti-piracy laws, so that wins him points in my world. As for the first 50 dollar project(the Grant and Franklin Project), I find it pretty interesting. I like it. It definitely wouldn't fix everything, but it doesn't propose that it could. And I'm not sure about a constitutional amendment. I don't know what the amendment would have to say that would allow it to actually work. The supreme court's quirky interpretation of the first amendment to cover the rights of individual citizens to be able to listen (listening to what? to the corporate dollar go ca ching) makes it a pretty sticky wicket and hella confusing.

I put a couple of links to some articles explaining the project, but I'm pretty sure they won't tell you much more than you already know.

I'm not sure there is one answer or one strategy to such a complicated issue. It took a long time to completely loose any control or influence over the government so it will probably take awhile to get any back. I think it is important though to take the time to thoroughly understand the problems from all angles so as not to jump at ineffective strategies and quick fixes. Although in my opinion the fifty dollar project would be a great first step.

And you would think i have a pretty face, it looks a lot like yours.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...street/247561/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-1...ce-lessig.html

http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/143571...anklin-project

http://coffeepartyaustin.org/?page_id=1402
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