[Kobi]

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

Well speaking of wiggle room, it appears to me that the supreme court decision regarding first trimester abortion is ever so clearly defined and there doesn’t appear to be any wiggle room at all. Yet, they’re doing the wiggle coast to coast in every state in the union. So I don’t have any qualms doing a little wiggle of my own and laying the blame for the state mandated rape squarely at the feet of the politicians and the state.

I’m not saying they shouldn’t be put in the position. I’m saying they can't legally be put in this position.

Well, that’s my dilemma. Why would they have no way to hold off enforcing an unlawful law? It should be a no brainer. No one should be deliberately breaking federal laws.

Well, see that’s the thing. You would not be abiding by the law. The federal law is clear, no state interference in first trimester abortions.

Again, you would be deliberately breaking federal law if you do what the state is asking.

Again if you follow the letter of the law you must refuse.

Well it’s only a brilliant strategy if people do not stand up against it. It is illegal. And if everyone, physicians, techs, facilities, everyone involved in women’s reproductive services, stands up together and cries foul, then it wouldn’t stand a chance of working. But if most accept this then ya, it’ll work. But really it’s not that brilliant, they only win if we roll over and decide to lose.

Tick, I'm telling ya, I love your brain. All excellent points. Now, if you remember a post you made a couple of pages back r.e. info from the Guttmacher Institute:

BACKGROUND: Since the mid-1990s, several states have moved to make ultrasound part of abortion service provision. Some laws and policies require that a woman seeking an abortion receive information on accessing ultrasound services, while others require that a woman undergo an ultrasound before an abortion.

Mid 1990's? Thats 17 years of fuckery so far. Lots of fuckery and who is responding to this? I dunno yet.

Toughy has raised excellent points as well. What are the professions affected by this doing in response? I dunno yet.

To not clutter up the breaking news thread anymore, I will make a separate thread for this in the "in the news" category.

The more I read and learn, the more this is really pissing me off. This is crucial shit for women. So, I hope some other curious folks who like to delve into things join me in the "Assault on Womens Sexual and Reproductive Rights" thread.