08-15-2014, 10:58 AM
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How Do You Identify?: Biological female. Lesbian.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nycfem
Note that it is not noted that Olivia would protect trans lesbian women from being harassed in the way described below.
From:
"Olivia GuestServices" <GUESTSERVICES@OLIVIA.COM>
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Hello -
Olivia strives to provide an all Lesbian environment but we have had MTF transgendered guests join us on our vacations. Although we do not discriminate, you will find that your presence is upsetting to some of our guests. Some will confront you directly asking "why are you on my Lesbian vacation?" I imagine it would be even harder for our guests to accept someone FTM.
I know this is discouraging, but it is important for you to understand because it disrupts the Olivia experience we work hard to provide for our guests. If you have any questions or need anything more please feel free to e-mail me at guestservices@olivia.com or call 800-631-6277, option 2.
Thank you,
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Jeri Umble
sr. director, customer care
olivia
434 brannan street
san francisco ca 94107
415.962.5700 tel
415.962-5713 fax
feel free
www.olivia.com
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Yes this is the backlash I mentioned Olivia had to deal with. It is restating the intent of the cruises and the targeted audience. And, that the guests expecting a certain experience might not appreciate the intent being turned into other than what they are expecting.
It is not an anti trans policy.
Is your intent to say wbw and wbw who are lesbians do not have the right to their own space, to define their own space, to set boundaries? Are you saying wbw/lesbians are unable or lack the capability to know what they need/want? Are you saying it is the right of others to impose their will/needs on women or to define what women should want/need?
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