[Kobi]

Consider the Conversation is a series of PBS films created by two long-time Wisconsin friends - Terry Kaldhusdal, a 6th grade history teacher and filmmaker, and Michael Bernhagen, a healthcare business development professional turned hospice advocate.

Both lost loved ones to severe chronic disease during the first part of the 21st century - Mike's mother, Rita, to congestive heart failure and vascular dementia in 2003 and Terry's brother, Peter, to pancreatic cancer in 2009 - and struggled, like most Americans do, to make sense of what was happening.

These personal experiences, combined with Mike's many years of work in the hospice field, led the pair to produce documentaries with one simple goal in mind - inspire culture change that results in end-of-life care that is more person-centered and less system-centered.

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Excellent. Very intense.