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Old 05-13-2010, 10:25 AM   #1
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Why isn't she in jail? What are your thoughts when watching this?

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What's a charter school?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...88-504083.html <--- this news article says that the teacher has been fired and is being investigated by the local authorities.
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A charter school is a public school with a special purpose kind of. I think. My son goes to a charter school for the fine arts. The school in question here is a school for children with behavioral issues from my understanding.

Still, I think the teacher who did the hitting and the teachers who stood by and watched should all be fired and thrown in jail. I am horrified at the brutality of this, but more horrified at the laughs and giggles in the background.
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Oh. My. GAWD.

I literally covered my mouth and wanted to throw up seeing this. That poor fucking kid and he looked terrified. OMG.
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Oh. My. GAWD.

I literally covered my mouth and wanted to throw up seeing this. That poor fucking kid and he looked terrified. OMG.
Why isn't she in jail? I am bewildered and angry.
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WTF..If that was either one of my kids at the receiving end of that..I WOULD BE IN JAIL! period end of story...

I can't believe she has not been arrested already!

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This is horrible. If that was my child, I will file charges across the board. I can't believe what I am seeing and hearing.
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OK see ANYONE would of done this to MY kid.... I would of HURT and I mean HURT that teacher....

I am horrified and disgusted and sick for this poor mom and that poor baby,I don't give a rats ass that he was in a school for kids who are naughty, he is a baby being dragged by his hair..

Sick sick sick and heartbreaking.
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When I was watching this, it looked like a parody to me. Blows not making contact, exagerated movements. Especially that first bit, it reminded me of playing "Bigfoot" with my son when he was younger, approaching him with my arms up high before swooping in to tickle him (There was also a song that went with this)

Did anyone else feel like this was some kind of (inappropriate) playing that got out of hand? Am I the only seeing that it appears the blows weren't landed, or were softened at the end to light taps? I am NOT saying this is right, but it made me wonder what the context was, I mean especially if people were filming it.

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The childs mom said he had a bump on his head and bruises from where she kicked him. I was skeptical at first, but to me it did NOT look like play, it looked like the teacher held back force at the last moment. Perhaps to not do an incredible amount of damage?

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When I was watching this, it looked like a parody to me. Blows not making contact, exagerated movements. Especially that first bit, it reminded me of playing "Bigfoot" with my son when he was younger, approaching him with my arms up high before swooping in to tickle him (There was also a song that went with this)

Did anyone else feel like this was some kind of (inappropriate) playing that got out of hand? Am I the only seeing that it appears the blows weren't landed, or were softened at the end to light taps? I am NOT saying this is right, but it made me wonder what the context was, I mean especially if people were filming it.

Jaded, and possibly in need of finding her glasses...
the beginning sort of looks more like intimidation, but as soon as she laid hands on him, it was over...
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When I was watching this, it looked like a parody to me. Blows not making contact, exagerated movements. Especially that first bit, it reminded me of playing "Bigfoot" with my son when he was younger, approaching him with my arms up high before swooping in to tickle him (There was also a song that went with this)

Did anyone else feel like this was some kind of (inappropriate) playing that got out of hand? Am I the only seeing that it appears the blows weren't landed, or were softened at the end to light taps? I am NOT saying this is right, but it made me wonder what the context was, I mean especially if people were filming it.

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The whole thing is awful, but, yes. I had the same impression. I really didn't see terror in the kid's face or really clear signs of him trying to get away or fight back. But, if he has a history of being abused (and the indignation of his mother means nothing in this regard), he could be inured to a situation like that.
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anger..

That was my responce...

But then again, I'm more than a little irrational when it comes to thinking about anyone harming my child..

I'm with superfemme..

Names of all the teachers that were in that room.. Lawsuits, criminal charges.. no holds bar for any adult that didn't try to stop it...

Now I have to go find something to do so I don't think about my son going to SERE training and the fact that he deliberatly is signing up to be abused..

and BREATH...
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Someone needs to load that bitch up in My cargo van with the cattle prod and drop her off on the corner going 55 when I open the door Just sayin ..
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This might be an unpopular thing to say but: when I first viewed this the thought crossed my mind and I said a prayer that this teacher wasn't one of *us*.
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God, whatever happened to detention, writing your name on the blackboard six million times and then erasing the board? I can't count how often I was detention, but never once received corporal punishment.

This is above and beyond corporal punishment.
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Why isn't she in jail? What are your thoughts when watching this?

My thoughts when watching this are that the kid probably wore her down and she finally snapped. She should have just walked out and quit and saved herself, but now she will end up in jail. I know this will not be a popular comment but it is what came to mind when I watched. My sister worked as a teacher in public schools for years and has horror stories. Including being punched in the face and knocked out by a student. We very rarely hear about student on teacher violence that includes punching, kicking, rape and verbal abuse.

Both my partner and I work in higher ed and the nastiness, rudeness. bullying and lying that comes from adult students is enough to turn you grey. Adult students name call, threaten, verbally abuse, lie, cheat, and harass over a grade they feel they deserve. The I deserve generation is in full swing right now and they stop at nothing to get what they want.

So yes , my first thought was this kid probably wore her down. I can't imagine how aggressive a 13 year old boy can be. I don't know anything about this woman and I don't know if she has a temper or a history of this so I could be way off. Maybe the kid was an angel and she just went nuts. No, she should not have beat him the way she did. That was wrong. She should have just walked away or quit her job if she could not handle the kids. But there is a part of me that knows what teachers deal with and how easy it is to be worn down by aggressive and belligerent students.

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I have heard lots of stuff about student to teacher violence. It is scary.

Teachers should make a hell of a lot more money than they do, and it scares me that they don't.

Still, I don't care how bad this boy was. There. Is. No. Excuse.
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Now from my understanding there are SPECIFIC guidlines to RESTRAIN and DETAIN children in charter schools who have behavioural issues.Now i dont care what that child has done you follow those guidline to a f***** T!!!Abuse of a child is not in ANY case acceptable!!I hope that momma and child gets the justice they deserve and that (hell I cant even call her a woman) gets what she's got coming to her along with the others that stood by and watched.Discusting just doesn't cover or describe what i witnessed.

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I saw this clip last night on the news. Suffice to say I did much tossing and turning all night. I was (and am) absolutely horrified by this incident. The teacher acted so vicious and aggressive and that poor darling child looks utterly terrified.

I am so angry that this was even able to happen and furious the authorities haven't locked this heinous person (and those watching) up. I have half a mind to strap on my boots and go and do it myself.







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Of course there are guidelines. This is not a case where restaint was called for. i am sure that teacher was not trained in retraint.

Most charter schools, btw, refuse special needs children. Apparently this one doesn't. But they are not known for dealing with special education students well at all.

A lot of them have huge classes, and discipline looks military. I have seen kids packed into small rooms. If I were a student, I would find it really stressful. The days are longer too.

Most of these schools are not as good as public schools. That there test scores about equal and in some cases surpass ours has more to do with the fact that they can CHOOSE the students who attend their school -- and kick out students they don't want.


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I saw this clip last night on the news. Suffice to say I did much tossing and turning all night. I was (and am) absolutely horrified by this incident. The teacher acted so vicious and aggressive and that poor darling child looks utterly terrified.

I am so angry that this was even able to happen and furious the authorities haven't locked this heinous person (and those watching) up. I have half a mind to strap on my boots and go and do it myself.







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I have been teaching for about 27 years. While I understand the frustration of working with special children .... the teacher's behavior is inexcusable. Take a walk, take a break, pass the child to someone else to deal with... there is always a better way than violence.

And I agree.... teachers get very little respect, value or compensation... for all the hard work. That is why I am currently looking for something outside of the teaching arena. At 48 years old, I have no savings and I have nothing saved for retirement. It is quite shameful. I teach preschoolers, and it is even worse then the older grades. In the words of my new governor... "preshcool teachers are just high priced babysitters. " really?????
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