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|  04-30-2011, 09:59 AM | #141 | 
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			Free-to-be, welcome to BFP and this thread.  Yes, there are some lesbians who don't like the word dyke.  I personally like both.  It has been used as a slur against me, but I have reclaimed it.  I kinda like that it sounds harsh, heh heh.
		 
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|  04-30-2011, 10:08 AM | #142 | 
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			interesting thread.............   i find that no matter how we all identify ...... to the general public be it str8 or gay .... we are al consider'd lesbians... only thing is ........ in cringe when someone refer's to my dates as ..... a girl. like as in ...... how are you ladies doing tonight?? or.... how was your date with your gf ??? i really cant seem to think of my stone butch/ or tg dates as ahhhh girl.. i tend to correct the statment when said. heh........ 
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|  04-30-2011, 05:54 PM | #143 | |
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 i'm queer and trans but don't feel ive ever been a lesbian... after all i was effectively a 'straight girl' for most of my life, then circling around 'bi curious but only in theory' , later gaining the title of 'straight/bi faghag with lots of gay friends' before going directly to 'trans and also gay no wait bi no wait queer'. i sort of had a bi 'intermediate' but I never have had that lesbian first stage that seems massively prevalent, assumed even. but i definitely feel a solid part of the liberal broadly queer lesbian id community. i love snuggling in its cosy not always metaphorical bosom. hit and miss with others. i love close male friendship and hanging out in male company but i find there is a cumulative toxic buildup of machismo if i spend too long with too many guys. | |
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|  08-01-2011, 12:58 PM | #144 | 
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			Happy August and Monday to all the Lesbians, Dykes, Friends and/or Allies (cuz most of us can't just choose one). For this Butch Dyke today is a sunshiney, laundry, bill paying kind of day, interspersed with much laughter, smiles and general all-around gaiety. Feel free to stop and say hi or chat anytime. Everyone is of course welcome and all convos... anything goes from fluff to hard core... as long as you like Lesbians, Dykes and of course Alison Bechdel.    
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|  08-01-2011, 01:06 PM | #145 | 
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			cool thread!  im tired of people labling me then when I dont fit in thier nice box of perception...wanna say im not what I know I am...ME    Flying my Freak Flag high and proud!! | 
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|  08-01-2011, 01:30 PM | #146 | 
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|  08-01-2011, 01:33 PM | #147 | 
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			Hi everyone!!!!!
		 
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|  08-01-2011, 02:12 PM | #148 | 
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|  08-01-2011, 02:28 PM | #149 | 
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			Weeeeeeeeee what a great thread!!!!! Howdy all!!!! I love the words/IDs/all of the above of Lesbian and Dykes. All are hawt!!!! 
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|  08-01-2011, 03:12 PM | #150 | 
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			I resonate with the word Dyke, FemmeDyke to be specific. I've been gay my whole life and never been a lesbian.
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|  08-01-2011, 04:04 PM | #151 | 
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|  08-01-2011, 05:38 PM | #152 | 
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			Good evening all     
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|  08-01-2011, 05:56 PM | #153 | 
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			Good Evening!!!!!
		 
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|  08-01-2011, 06:06 PM | #154 | 
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	Rep Power: 21474858            |    Alison Bechdel began keeping a journal at the age of ten, and has been assiduously archiving her own life and times with words and pictures ever since. For twenty-five years she wrote and drew the comic strip Dykes to Watch Out For, a generational chronicle considered “one of the preeminent oeuvres in the comics genre, period.” (Ms.) She is also the author of the best-selling Fun Home: A Family Tragicomic, which won an Eisner Award and was a National Book Critics Circle Award Finalist. Time Magazine named Fun Home the number one Best Book of 2006, calling the memoir about her father, “A masterpiece about two people who live in the same house but different worlds, and their mysterious debts to each other.” Fun Home and Dykes to Watch Out For have been translated into many languages. Bechdel has drawn comics for Slate, McSweeney’s, Entertainment Weekly, The New York Times Book Review, and Granta, among other places. Bechdel lives near Burlington, Vermont. Had to look it up. Didn't know either. Very interesting though. I think i'll look into getting one of her books. 
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 Wow!!! I had no idea. Shows how little exposure I have had to so many parts of the lesbian community. I came out as a lesbian when I was 19 years old. But I never really spent much time in the lesbian community, because I didn't feel like I belonged, which may be more a reflection of the particular bits of lesbian community I was exposed to at such a vulnerable point in my coming out process than on the lesbian community at large. So, I'm sorta dipping my toe in... I've been calling myself a Queer Femme and not claiming the word lesbian since I found out that Femme was what I was. But I think I missed out on some stuff too.... so I'm going to peek in on y'all now and then... learn.... that sort of thing.   | |
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|  08-01-2011, 08:50 PM | #156 | |
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 What pushed me away from the word is the fact that, at least for me, TV, movies, etc, seem to portray lesbians as two apparent femmes. I thought, omg that is so not me, i'm attracted to butches, therefore i am not a lesbian. And then, like you, i found these sites and realized immediately that femme was something i could claim and become part of the butch femme scene. The information of late that is being talked about here regarding the BV stuff has got me thinking more about it lately. I don't know anything about what is going on but it has opened a door, at least for me, to do some exploring. I left that word because of what...tv? I am sticking my toe back in as well. I certainly think we both, and more maybe, could be missing a lot. *hugs 
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|  08-01-2011, 11:39 PM | #157 | 
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			Thank you Princessbelle for the info on Alison Bechdel.  Yes she is the cartoonist for the classic lesbian comic strip "Dykes To Watch Out For."  I looked it up and it ran from 1983-2008, so I basically grew up on it because yes I remember reading it in the 1980s when I was in college in Santa Cruz, CA.  I am an old dyke who forgets not everyone has been immersed in lesbian culture like I have or is as old as me, lol. "Leaping Lesbians" refers to a classic song by Meg Christian from the 1970s with Olivia Records, who also did other classics like "Ode to a Gym Teacher." This proves that Liam is an old fogey like me.   
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  BTW....if anyone wants any of her music, her own website is here...support the woman! 
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	Rep Power: 21474856            |   Jovi Radtke A local Sacramento Spoken Word Artist I went to Mondo Bizarro to promote BV I also secured Jovi a spot in the BV National Conference for this month. I look forward to more from Jovi, and sharing the stage with so many other Talented Butches.   
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