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AtLast · 11-20-2011, 01:28 PM

Now, the cop spraying the demonstrators with pepper spray at the UC, Davis demonstration this weekend did piss me off. They were just sitting there- no weapons, no rocks, etc.

One, and only one cop did it- which makes me wonder about him, individually acting completely differently than the other officers right there with him. None of them joined in doing this, not one.

Also having trouble with how faux News keeps trying to link both the murder in Oakland and now the murder (the student died this morning) on the UCB campus (in the computer lab) with the OWS demonstrations. They are not connected. There is some speculation (no confirmation I have heard) that the suspect in the Oakland incident had camped for a few days with OWS campers, but he is not really an activist at all.

Cin · 11-20-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by persiphone

i don't feel sorry for her. she should be outraged and she should be filing complaints with authorities and she should be organizing campus cops to protect the students from that ever happening again.

Yes, agreed. I said almost.

I doubt things went down exactly as she wanted but I don't believe the campus cops acted the way they did without believing that this is what was expected of them. While she's filing complaints she ought to file some against herself.

Corkey · 11-20-2011, 01:47 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/officers-peppe...182151195.html

Yea wonder if they are being paid while on administrative leave.

Cin · 11-20-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AtLast

Now, the cop spraying the demonstrators with pepper spray at the UC, Davis demonstration this weekend did piss me off. They were just sitting there- no weapons, no rocks, etc.

One, and only one cop did it- which makes me wonder about him, individually acting completely differently than the other officers right there with him. None of them joined in doing this, not one.

I don't think it was just one cop. Here is a description of what happened from an English professor who was there.

Another widely-circulated description comes from assistant English professor Nathan Brown:

Police used batons to try to push the students apart. Those they could separate, they arrested, kneeling on their bodies and pushing their heads into the ground. Those they could not separate, they pepper-sprayed directly in the face, holding these students as they did so. When students covered their eyes with their clothing, police forced open their mouths and pepper-sprayed down their throats. Several of these students were hospitalized. Others are seriously injured. One of them, forty-five minutes after being pepper-sprayed down his throat, was still coughing up blood.

AtLast · 11-20-2011, 01:58 PM

http://www.ebcitizen.com/2011/11/per...ege-board.html

Peralta Community College Board Approves Moving Money Out Of Big Banks

I hope other districts all over the US do this!

Corkey · 11-20-2011, 02:00 PM

Raise your hand if this reminds anyone of the Secret Police of Nazi Germany?

AtLast · 11-20-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Tick

I don't think it was just one cop. Here is a description of what happened from an English professor who was there.

Another widely-circulated description comes from assistant English professor Nathan Brown:

Police used batons to try to push the students apart. Those they could separate, they arrested, kneeling on their bodies and pushing their heads into the ground. Those they could not separate, they pepper-sprayed directly in the face, holding these students as they did so. When students covered their eyes with their clothing, police forced open their mouths and pepper-sprayed down their throats. Several of these students were hospitalized. Others are seriously injured. One of them, forty-five minutes after being pepper-sprayed down his throat, was still coughing up blood.

The "clip" being shown here does not have any of this on it. Just peaceful students sitting and one cop spraying them and then walking away. One cop and he did not touch them at all.

I believe the proff- most likely, the rest was just not caught on video. But, this is what the general public here in CA is being shown. I don't think there was a need for pepper spray at all.

Maybe there are other clips out there?

Corkey · 11-20-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AtLast

The "clip" being shown here does not have any of this on it. Just peaceful students sitting and one cop spraying them and then walking away. One cop and he did not touch them at all.

I believe the proff- most likely, the rest was just not caught on video. But, this is what the general public here in CA is being shown. I don't think there was a need for pepper spray at all.

Maybe there are other clips out there?

Did you read the one I posted AtLast? There were others involved.

Corkey · 11-20-2011, 02:27 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/top-0-1-nation...172647859.html

Top 1% earn half capitol gains earnings.

Corkey · 11-20-2011, 02:30 PM

http://thinkprogress.org/special/201...y-in-politics/

Rep. Deutch introduces Occupied Constitutional Amendment.

Cin · 11-20-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Corkey

http://news.yahoo.com/top-0-1-nation...172647859.html

Top 1% earn half capitol gains earnings.

From this article:

"It's crystal clear that the Bush tax reduction on capital gains and dividend income in 2003 was the cutting edge policy that has created the immense increase in net worth of corporate executives, Wall St. professionals and other entrepreneurs.

I commend you to the late Justice Louis Brandeis warning to the nation that " We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both."
We have to make up our minds to restore a higher, fairer capital gains tax to the wealthiest investor class-- or ultimately face increased social unrest."

So true. Thanks Corkey.

ruffryder · 11-20-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Toughy

I want Phase 2 NOW

tired of turf wars..........I live in Oakland...it's part of my everyday life...

the difference now is that white folk are involved in a turf war over white folk land...........city hall, wall street.........whatever..........wait what year is it.....the 60's

Phase 2..........get the fucking money out of politics

What's goin in Oakland with the anti OWS protestors? Looks like a huge bunch. Is anyone else seeing this in Oakland or any other cities?

Corkey · 11-20-2011, 03:39 PM

Anti OWS protests haven't made it here. Our OWS are still in the park and are minus electricity except for a generator that was provided them.

dykeumentary · 11-20-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Corkey

Raise your hand if this reminds anyone of the Secret Police of Nazi Germany?

Again, this is important to me.
In my opinion, comparisons to Nazi Germany are not helpful in any way, to anyone here.

Corkey · 11-20-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dykeumentary

Again, this is important to me.
In my opinion, comparisons to Nazi Germany are not helpful in any way, to anyone here.

Really, have you studied Nazi Germany, or had a relative who fought against them? Because the tactics are exactly the same. You are free to disagree, but at least do so with some facts.

atomiczombie · 11-20-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AtLast

Also having trouble with how faux News keeps trying to link both the murder in Oakland and now the murder (the student died this morning) on the UCB campus (in the computer lab) with the OWS demonstrations. They are not connected. There is some speculation (no confirmation I have heard) that the suspect in the Oakland incident had camped for a few days with OWS campers, but he is not really an activist at all.

Fox has created an on-going, full-on smear campaign against OWS:

dykeumentary · 11-20-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Corkey

Really, have you studied Nazi Germany, or had a relative who fought against them? Because the tactics are exactly the same. You are free to disagree, but at least do so with some facts.

Ok Corley, based on your studies: When you make this comparison, what insight or strategy to improve our current situation do you offer?

Corkey · 11-20-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dykeumentary

Ok Corley, based on your studies: When you make this comparison, what insight or strategy to improve our current situation do you offer?

How about supporting the Rep who is placing an amendment up for vote. Vote the damned tea party out and everyone else who the 1% buy. Remember what we are fighting about, freedom and free speech. Support GMO, get money out. And remember this, that fortune favors those who remember the past. Lest we forget we are doomed to repeat it.

atomiczombie · 11-20-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Corkey

Really, have you studied Nazi Germany, or had a relative who fought against them? Because the tactics are exactly the same. You are free to disagree, but at least do so with some facts.

Well Corkey, the Gestapo didn't just arrest protestors. They executed them. That is a fact. It's also a huge difference.

Corkey · 11-20-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by atomiczombie

Well Corkey, the Gestapo didn't just arrest protestors. They executed them. That is a fact. It's also a huge difference.

So when the police spray pepper spray down a protestors throat, he wasn't actually trying to kill him? Or does this not qualify due to hospital care. Really people start opening your eyes. You are not that far from Martial Law being declared.

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11-20-2011, 03:39 PM	#1093
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