Gender Fluidity

[Jett]

Originally Posted by Rope

I'm not quite sure why being interested in your gender identity as a butch makes one obsessed. Some of us took AND take a lot of shit for looking male and trying to "trick" straight people. We took a lot of shit for being who we are from the lesbian community back in the day. These things color your world. Being butch isn't something we put on for the day or when we feel like it, it's just there.

The discussion of butch and all it's stuff (tranny butch, femmy butch, queer butch, feminist butch, butch that's female id, butch that's male id, including the fluidity that some butches feel around their gender, ETC) is just the interesting mutations of a shared experienced on some level that we get to talk about.

Rope--

Hey Rope, right and I can't see where anyone's really said anything different... but I took things more like referencing specific experiences like I did.

And just for posterity sake, I took AND take a whole lot of shit for looking male and from parts of the lesbian and feminist and hetero community community as well (including almost 90 stitches on my face from the latter).

I Id'd as butch for over two decades, not for a day or when I felt like it, but right I haven't identified with butch as an ID for a some time even know I'm a masculine queer female... but for a long time it was the available nutshell language I had for myself. Not using that exact word now doesn't mean I don't feel, live, and and have that shared experience things very much as other masculine female bodied queer people. I've personally shared these life stories here for years and probably started more sex/gender conversations here than 98% of the peeps on the forums, including this conversation.

And because I feel a sense of "us and you" in your post (and b/c you didn't quote I'm not sure who it's directed at) I feel the need to say, I didn't separate myself from the B-F community, I would hope the B-F community wouldn't separate me from it because I feel more in sync with a cousin identity (not referencing being gender fluid, that's not so much an ID to/for me) more than butch. Though I suppose that could be a reality I didn't foresee...

And btw there's no animosity in this post, I'm just not quite sure where your coming from with all this, but then again I'm not even though my first cup of coffee...

Metro