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[adorable]

Originally Posted by BullDog

It was the femme who was much more likely to go to work at the factory (or wherever) than the butch, with the butch staying at home because it was hard for them to find work. I don't believe butches back then saw themselves as men. Perhaps some did, but no from what I read it wasn't male and female as the two gender roles. I am a modern day butch who wears men's clothing. I am not a man.

What I have read is that they worked at factories and other places where there was not a uniform requirement. And that femme's did work moreso in the 50s. I think that it was a gender role that butches did see themselves as - it did mimic hetro society in roles - in a way that we do not today.

Today is a different perspective for me then the 40s and 50s.

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by adorable

What I have read is that they worked at factories and other places where there was not a uniform requirement. And that femme's did work moreso in the 50s. I think that it was a gender role that butches did see themselves as - it did mimic hetro society in roles - in a way that we do not today.

Today is a different perspective for me then the 40s and 50s.

Well you could always read Joan Nestle- a femme who was there during the 1950s- for a different perspective.

[adorable]

Originally Posted by BullDog

Well you could always read Joan Nestle- a femme who was there during the 1950s- for a different perspective.

And I will! It is hard to find a lot on it and it does facinate me. Thanks.