How about butch and butch?

[kittygrrl]

Originally Posted by JDeere

Also the community makes you feel unwelcome, if your b/b as well.

If you're talking about this community, I don't think that's true. The site promotes butch, femme and everything else. There are times people (may) seem intolerant but it's usually because they don't understand or are fearful. Everyone is capable of growing and changing in time.. Sometimes we just have to be patient and love them anyway.

[JDeere]

Originally Posted by kittygrrl

If you're talking about this community, I don't think that's true. But, the site promotes butch and femme and everything else. There are times people (may) seem intolerant but it's usually because they don't understand or are fearful. Everyone is capable of growing and changing in time.. Sometimes we just have to be patient and love them anyway.

In general, online and offline. Online yeah it's made known that it's frowned upon and feels unwelcoming. Offline I see the looks and stares as well as hearing the talk. Noone should feel unwelcome in the GLTBQI community.

[kittygrrl]

Originally Posted by JDeere

In general, online and offline. Online yeah it's made known that it's frowned upon and feels unwelcoming. Offline I see the looks and stares as well as hearing the talk. Noone should feel unwelcome in the GLTBQI community.

J, it's funny you should say that because when i was younger i never knew b/f existed..every couple i saw was b/b and as a femme i was made to feel i was unwelcome and even told i didn't belong...so you see, meaness, indifference and ignorance..exists everywhere in different spaces and times depending..take heart it will change where you are someday..probably sooner then later..in the meantime when you get a stare, give them back a smile or a wave..you will feel better and just maybe you will make them pause and rethink

[JDeere]

Originally Posted by kittygrrl

J, it's funny you should say that because when i was younger i never knew b/f existed..every couple i saw was b/b and as a femme i was made to feel i was unwelcome and even told i didn't belong...so you see, meaness, indifference and ignorance..exists everywhere in different spaces and times depending..take heart it will change where you are someday..probably sooner then later..in the meantime when you get a stare, give them back a smile or a wave..you will feel better and just maybe you will make them pause and rethink

I date all over the spectrum. Butch, femme, ftm, mtf. I go out often and really people watch, like detailed watching. I see mannerisms, etc and know who possibly to avoid, im not worried about myself mainly the younger crowd as well as the newly out younger ones, to hopefully they wont feel unwelcome.

[kittygrrl]

Originally Posted by JDeere

I date all over the spectrum. Butch, femme, ftm, mtf. I go out often and really people watch, like detailed watching. I see mannerisms, etc and know who possibly to avoid, im not worried about myself mainly the younger crowd as well as the newly out younger ones, to hopefully they wont feel unwelcome.

J, I've always thought you quite young but very confident..i wish i'd had your mad skills when i was your age..

[JDeere]

Originally Posted by kittygrrl

J, I've always thought you quite young but very confident..i wish i'd had your mad skills when i was your age..

Thank you, I'm 41 so not that young LOL

Anyways, at a young age like 8 or so, I learned from my gram to read people in different ways and being a stickler for details as well as obsessive about things, helps me decided about issues.

[Lyte]

I can appreciate that ... dating across the spectrum. Why not?!

As I sit and recollect ... my only dating femmes may have been due to the fact that that's how it was way back when. The menu in those days was UBER small and social norms, even in the LGB* community, did influence one's behavior.

Originally Posted by JDeere

I date all over the spectrum. Butch, femme, ftm, mtf. I go out often and really people watch, like detailed watching. I see mannerisms, etc and know who possibly to avoid, im not worried about myself mainly the younger crowd as well as the newly out younger ones, to hopefully they wont feel unwelcome.

*TQ hadn't been added yet.

[JDeere]

Originally Posted by Lyte

I can appreciate that ... dating across the spectrum. Why not?!

As I sit and recollect ... my only dating femmes may have been due to the fact that that's how it was way back when. The menu in those days was UBER small and social norms, even in the LGB* community, did influence one's behavior.




*TQ hadn't been added yet.

I don't discriminate when it comes to love lol