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[~ocean]

" Donny Dolly Hands " has blood on his hands ~ he is now the new 2020 "Chucky Dolly Hands "

[Kätzchen]

"...Biden and his attorney general must set the tone from the top that Trump’s actions were not politics as normal but were egregious and potentially criminal. This will make it clear to all that a full investigation into Trump’s possible crimes is warranted. In turn, it will go a long way to paving the way for a future we can all look forward to in which no one — not even a president— can pretend that they are above the law," ~ MSNBC Op-ed Columnist, Dean Obeidallah (January 6th, 2021).

LINK: https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/democr...id=msd_topgrid


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Rico and I both wrote to our respective US Senators and US House of Representatives to let them know we are grateful for their leadership and to also enforce the idea that we believe the current president should be held accountable: Tried by prosecution and convicted for the crimes he has committed all along, as well as the seditious acts of insurrection on the US Capitol and the American People.

[Cin]

While Trump is very much responsible for what happened at the Capitol on January 6, and it's hard to imagine that responsibility for this terrorist attack goes beyond the highest office in the land, but it does and it's important that we, the people, understand that clearly. Their was collusion at the highest levels and I don't just mean the presidency.

Excerpt from https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...m_medium=Email

A few things are clear.

One is that the Washington, D.C. mayor, and other D.C. public officials, explicitly requested that the federal government coordinate law enforcement efforts in the city and on the scene, and that these requests, made weeks ago, were ignored.

A second is that orders were given in advance by federal authorities that federal national guard forces should stand by but not deploy, should not be armed, and should not engage any violence if deployed, etc. In other words, someone in the Executive Branch, presumably the Secretary of the Army, clearly anticipated the possibility of deployment and sought to forestall it, and limit its effectiveness, in advance.

A third is that, as Maryland’s Republican Governor Larry Hogan has very publicly stated, when the Pentagon was phoned by him, as per procedure, to authorize the deployment of Maryland National Guard, he received no response for almost two hours, and then received a rushed response outside of normal channels.

In short, while the insurrection was going on, and Hogan had National Guard troops ready to deploy, and requested proper authorization, he was denied authorization. The Pentagon refused to authorize National Guard deployment for almost two hours while the Capitol building was being rampaged by rioters. There were decisions taken to produce this “nondecision.” There are authorities, and institutions, who were clearly responsible for non-action in the protection of the Congress and the enforcement of federal law.

There is complicity here at the highest level. And a kind of collusion, between the relevant Pentagon officials and, on the one hand, their insurrection-instigating boss, and on the other hand the rampaging mob, who were allowed free reign on federal property by federal forces.

This must be addressed because at this moment the county is in the hands of people who colluded with these terrorist groups.

[Kätzchen]

Originally Posted by Cin

While Trump is very much responsible for what happened at the Capitol on January 6, and it's hard to imagine that responsibility for this terrorist attack goes beyond the highest office in the land, but it does and it's important that we, the people, understand that clearly. Their was collusion at the highest levels and I don't just mean the presidency.

Excerpt from https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...m_medium=Email

A few things are clear.

One is that the Washington, D.C. mayor, and other D.C. public officials, explicitly requested that the federal government coordinate law enforcement efforts in the city and on the scene, and that these requests, made weeks ago, were ignored.

A second is that orders were given in advance by federal authorities that federal national guard forces should stand by but not deploy, should not be armed, and should not engage any violence if deployed, etc. In other words, someone in the Executive Branch, presumably the Secretary of the Army, clearly anticipated the possibility of deployment and sought to forestall it, and limit its effectiveness, in advance.

A third is that, as Maryland’s Republican Governor Larry Hogan has very publicly stated, when the Pentagon was phoned by him, as per procedure, to authorize the deployment of Maryland National Guard, he received no response for almost two hours, and then received a rushed response outside of normal channels.

In short, while the insurrection was going on, and Hogan had National Guard troops ready to deploy, and requested proper authorization, he was denied authorization. The Pentagon refused to authorize National Guard deployment for almost two hours while the Capitol building was being rampaged by rioters. There were decisions taken to produce this “nondecision.” There are authorities, and institutions, who were clearly responsible for non-action in the protection of the Congress and the enforcement of federal law.

There is complicity here at the highest level. And a kind of collusion, between the relevant Pentagon officials and, on the one hand, their insurrection-instigating boss, and on the other hand the rampaging mob, who were allowed free reign on federal property by federal forces.

This must be addressed because at this moment the county is in the hands of people who colluded with these terrorist groups.

I read somewhere yesterday that T---p gutted DHS's watchdog group which rings the alarm bells on high-watch National Security issues.

I also think this is a rally call to scholars in the field of Sociology, with cartography experience, in mapping the sequence of events which have transpired since T---p was installed at the 45th president.

How long was it, after he(TP) gutted the watch dog group until the acts of sedition took place? I feel confident that by mapping out each event with what transpired before (ie, firing key personnel, gutting executive branch special offices that blow the whistle on key serious issues, etc) one can see the real picture of how TP accomplished such horrendous acts of sedition.

If I ever come across a fantastic article which explains it better than I can or find a video which speaks to these very issues, I will post it.

But I think Sociological Cartography can be utilized as a forensic tool of discovery to build an air-tight case that explains how TP and bad actors helped bring these acts of sedition to pass.

Thanks for your post Cin, issued by Common Dreams. I agree: TP didn't do this alone. He had help and key GOP/Retrumplican's aided and abetted TP each day he has been in office.

[Cin]

Originally Posted by Kätzchen

I agree: TP didn't do this alone. He had help and key GOP/Retrumplican's aided and abetted TP each day he has been in office.

I think it goes far beyond Trump and Trumpism per say, I think it is a mind set the GOP has had for a very very long time. Dog whistle politics and the southern strategy are a ways away from storming the capitol but it is all connected. The DOD was involved here. To me that is very scary. When the Pentagon does not come to the defense of the Capitol building that really is a bridge too far. It goes beyond anything I could have ever imagined. It is nothing short of treason. How can people depend on the Department of Defense to defend this country for all its citizens. I hope we don't look back on this as the opportunity we missed. They all have been caught with their pants down and if they get to white wash this (pun intended) and put it all on Trump and walk away with a few sacrifices here and there we will have missed our chance to clean the government of these abominations. There will be another Trump and we see clearly now that the power in this country favors the alt right white supremacist movement. If we blow this chance we might not get another. I doubt they will get caught again like this. The dems control the house, the senate and the presidency or will in a few days. They need to appoint committees manned by loyal and trusted people to follow the money and find out who is funding these organizations. Every part of this treasonous conspiracy needs to be dragged into the light and severe consequences have to happen to all the people involved in this.

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Arnold Schwarzenegger, Former Governor of California, Condemns T***p, Capitol Rioters, and Fellow Republicans

In his address, Schwarzenegger compares the Capitol Riot to Kristallnacht in 1938 Nazi Germany. He accuses T***p of attempting a coup. "President Trump is a failed leader. He will go down in history as the worst president ever." He then accuses members of his own Republican party of supporting the rioters. And finally, he encourages public support of Democratic President-elect Joe Biden to bring the nation together.

IMHO, Schwarzenegger says a lot of things that need to be said, and which will never be said by any Republican in office who is afraid of losing the support of T***p followers. It's almost enough to make me consider seeing Schwarzenegger as a viable future candidate for president, Republican though he is. He makes some very good points in a stirring statement.

To see the whole video (7 minutes, 38 seconds), click below:

[Kätzchen]

Some things on my mind, while we wait for the USHOR to impeach the orange monster from psychoville:

A) Can our legislative body draw up and implement law to address political hate groups from forming a new political party? I wonder if it is possible because of the huge fracture within the GOP (life long Republicans abandoning thier party over incendiary politics which damages our country)?

B) Will participants of the riot incited by T---p be charged with Hate crimes, including those who carried a Confederate flag? Because, to me, by far, this sinister act against the government and all its people is a White Nationalist Supremacy attack and I feel strongly that these people should be listed as a hate group that should never be tolerated by our democracy.