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Old 11-10-2022, 07:05 AM   #1
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We did pretty goood in Michigan yesterday.
  • Gov. Whitmer was re-elected
  • AG Nessel was re-elected
  • Prop 1 passed shortening term limits and requiring politicians to disclose finances
  • Prop 2 passed amending the state constitution to expand voting rights
  • Prop 3 passed adding abortion rights into Michigans Constitution
  • Once all votes are in the Dems might control Michigan's Senate and House

And we kept the crazies (Tudor Dixon and John Gibbs) at bay, for awhile.

Could have been worse ... much worse.

Yay for us.

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We did pretty goood in Michigan yesterday.
  • Gov. Whitmer was re-elected
  • AG Nessel was re-elected
  • Prop 1 passed shortening term limits and requiring politicians to disclose finances
  • Prop 2 passed amending the state constitution to expand voting rights
  • Prop 3 passed adding abortion rights into Michigans Constitution
  • Once all votes are in the Dems might control Michigan's Senate and House

And we kept the crazies (Tudor Dixon and John Gibbs) at bay, for awhile.

Could have been worse ... much worse.

Yay for us.

That is excellent news, Orema.

They say it's too close to call but I don't see how they come up with that rationalization, but, Tina Kotek will hopefully be our governor.

I was thrilled to see decisive wins in Michigan and over in Pennsylvania (Fetterman).

I'm waiting to see the next chess moves provided by the Jan 6th Committee (Liz Cheney, et al). In my mind's eye, the nation cannot really move forward until we have a decisive win on stopping T---p. I want the committee to make sure our country never goes through this again.
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Generalized and specific anxieties in Georgia, here.

1. Margarine Taylor Greene was re- elected. I bet she gets a committee appointment now.

2. Warnock vs. Walker - I can't believe we have to go to a runoff. Even if the Republicans want this to be a red state and get the Senate seat, Herschel Walker is dumber than dirt, which should be obvious to anyone. And I hate that we have to sit through another month of campaign ads for these two. Please, please, please Stacey Abrams, do your magic and get the votes for Rev. Warnock.
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2024 is on my mind and who will get the Democratic nomination if Biden doesn't run again.

Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer's name is being mentioned a lot in Michigan as a potential candidate. I like her and just voted for her, but I'on't know when it comes to being the "leader of the free world."

I thought Hilary Clinton was perfect for the job having been a Senator, Secretary of State, a creator of a health-care initiative while First Lady, and I was impressed with her ability to move past that nasty 2008 election and work with Obama ... but that ship has sailed and even I don't think she should run again. Pity.

DeSantis will probably be the Republican nominee. He can be beaten, but by whom? Biden, Harris, someone more or less progressive? I don't think Whitmer can meet the challenge.

As usual, I'll vote for the Democratic nominee—whoever it is—but I hope I don't have to hold my breath while casting my vote.
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2024 is on my mind and who will get the Democratic nomination if Biden doesn't run again.

Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer's name is being mentioned a lot in Michigan as a potential candidate. I like her and just voted for her, but I'on't know when it comes to being the "leader of the free world."

I thought Hilary Clinton was perfect for the job having been a Senator, Secretary of State, a creator of a health-care initiative while First Lady, and I was impressed with her ability to move past that nasty 2008 election and work with Obama ... but that ship has sailed and even I don't think she should run again. Pity.

DeSantis will probably be the Republican nominee. He can be beaten, but by whom? Biden, Harris, someone more or less progressive? I don't think Whitmer can meet the challenge.

As usual, I'll vote for the Democratic nominee—whoever it is—but I hope I don't have to hold my breath while casting my vote.
We've already had a tiny clue ripple across trusted news media reports.... Did you once read, about a month ago or so, how media pundits thought California Governor Gavin Newsom would be the brightest star in the Democratic party to challenge Dr. Kill-Joy (The GOP Florida governor psycho-boy)?

Gavin Newsome came up with and passed laws in CA in opposition to DeSantis' warped agenda against the LGBTQ and Women's rights.

I am wondering if Newsome is the choice of the Democratic Party. Newsome, Whitmer Ticket for 2024?? Go Gretchen and Gavin.


Like you, I vote strictly Democratic, up and down the voting ticket. For other fill in the blank options on the vote, like for write-n candidates challenging incumbent judges? I always use Ruth Bader Ginsberg as my go-to choice. That way it is fucking clear that I'm wholly Democrat, through and through.

PS/ did you know that our out-going Govenor Kate Brown is related to Gavin Newsome? Brown was Oregon's first elected official from the LGBTQ sector because she identifies as Bisexual. Last week we just elected Oregon's first out Lesbian as our next Governor.
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We've already had a tiny clue ripple across trusted news media reports.... Did you once read, about a month ago or so, how media pundits thought California Governor Gavin Newsom would be the brightest star in the Democratic party to challenge Dr. Kill-Joy (The GOP Florida governor psycho-boy)?

Gavin Newsome came up with and passed laws in CA in opposition to DeSantis' warped agenda against the LGBTQ and Women's rights.

I am wondering if Newsome is the choice of the Democratic Party. Newsome, Whitmer Ticket for 2024?? Go Gretchen and Gavin.


Like you, I vote strictly Democratic, up and down the voting ticket. For other fill in the blank options on the vote, like for write-n candidates challenging incumbent judges? I always use Ruth Bader Ginsberg as my go-to choice. That way it is fucking clear that I'm wholly Democrat, through and through.

PS/ did you know that our out-going Govenor Kate Brown is related to Gavin Newsome? Brown was Oregon's first elected official from the LGBTQ sector because she identifies as Bisexual. Last week we just elected Oregon's first out Lesbian as our next Governor.
Yes, I have heard Gavin's name mentioned for 2024. He'd get my vote but not my first choice, not that I have a first choice. And Gavin/Whitmer would make a good ticket, I think.

And congrats on electing Kotek! Seems she has a smart head on her shoulders.
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The logical choice, if Biden doesn't run, should be Vice President Harris, but sadly I don't know if she can get elected - a double whammy of Racism & Sexism. I'm not sure if a white woman can get elected as president either. Maybe.

We need someone who can bring out a big turnout with people of color - especially black voters and Latinos would be good too - as well as young voters. Yeah too bad Obama can't run again. We need to outnumber the clueless old white voters - at least some of us vote the right way!
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Yes, I have heard Gavin's name mentioned for 2024. He'd get my vote but not my first choice, not that I have a first choice. And Gavin/Whitmer would make a good ticket, I think.

And congrats on electing Kotek! Seems she has a smart head on her shoulders.
I noticed that neither of you mentioned Kamala Harris for 2024. Sadly, I don't think she's up for the job anyway. Maybe AOC would make a good choice, or running partner for Gavin Newsome. She's tough and I like her.

As you have both mentioned, I too will vote a straight Democratic ticket.

Later> Sorry, I just noticed that a couple of you did discuss VP Harris, and I agree with what was said.
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