Politics-What's on your mind?

[nhplowboi]

I am pretty shocked at the classified documents debacle, concerning both Trump and Biden. How is it possible that the National Archive does not monitor these classified documents once they are removed from the facility?! Hell, a library book seems to have better security.

[ksrainbow]

Originally Posted by nhplowboi

I am pretty shocked at the classified documents debacle, concerning both Trump and Biden. How is it possible that the National Archive does not monitor these classified documents once they are removed from the facility?! Hell, a library book seems to have better security.

This is unacceptable on so many levels. I understand that there can and will be mistakes-overlooks-misplaced-shuffled documents etc. As much as I disdain the previous administration I will say: our eyes and ears have been alerted to the need for oversight in so many areas of our government. Our weakness is our tribalism-

We must and can be better educated citizens/voters keeping our democracy secure, safe, transparent. T's exploitation of all 3 is the road map for moving forward. It will not be easy for sure-

Ks-

[Orema]

Originally Posted by nhplowboi

I am pretty shocked at the classified documents debacle, concerning both Trump and Biden. How is it possible that the National Archive does not monitor these classified documents once they are removed from the facility?! Hell, a library book seems to have better security.

I'm shocked but Biden having the papers isn't as troubling for me as Trump. Biden has had some level of access to classified docs for 50 years—ever since he became a Senator in 1973. Trump has only had access for a fraction of that time. And Biden isn't known to cozy up to dictators like Trump. But there has to be better control over classified info.

This could really blow up IF the right journalists latch onto this or it could be swept under the carpet. Surely there are many members of Congress who have different levels of access to classified docs who are on Senate Committees and House Committees. (Armes Services, Finance, Foreigh Relations, Homeland Security, Ethics, Intelligence, etc). And some of these Representatives and Senators take these docs home without permission.

But no one is going to admit this unless confronted. I don't expect much from journalists these days but this is something one of them may want to sink their teeth into. We'll see.

[Kätzchen]

Originally Posted by Orema

I'm shocked but Biden having the papers isn't as troubling for me as Trump. Biden has had some level of access to classified docs for 50 years—ever since he became a Senator in 1973. Trump has only had access for a fraction of that time. And Biden isn't known to cozy up to dictators like Trump. But there has to be better control over classified info.

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I like what you said, in the first paragraph of your post, Orema. That's the thing though: Biden has been in Congress and in Executive Government positions, which out-classes those whose access to such documents is restricted (for safety across the proverbial board). And I agree with your observation concerning T=-=-=p: He sure enough cozied up to authoritarian rulers across the globe. I would argue that T----p should sacrifice his US citizenship based on his Anti-American and Anti-democratic choices. Secondly, his citizenship should be revoked permanently based on jeopardizing the safety of Americans (...).



Anyhoooooo. Thanks for your post.

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by Kätzchen

I would argue that T----p should sacrifice his US citizenship based on his Anti-American and Anti-democratic choices. Secondly, his citizenship should be revoked permanently based on jeopardizing the safety of Americans (...).

I can't imagine this will ever happen. How embarrassing would it be for the United States to have a former president in exile? Plus, the Republicans are pretty much in charge of everything right now. Plus, there's something to be said for keeping your friends close and your enemies closer - we don't need T---p gathering an army in exile like some banished younger princeling. Maybe one day it will happen though - I have to say, there's part of me that really likes this idea. Let him go live in Moscow with his friend Putin.

[GeorgiaMa'am]

I heard on BBC and I think NPR also that the U.S. is sending heavier weapons to Ukraine. Some political commentator (I don't remember who, sorry) said that the goal of the U.S. so far has been to send Ukraine enough weapons that they don't lose the war, but that they don't win it either. I understand the U.S. doesn't want to antagonize Russia and get NATO even more involved in this war than it already is, but it shouldn't just keep dragging on forever. Some of the other NATO countries are starting to give Ukraine heavy equipment too, like tanks. I'm really hoping this ends it before we get to spring. Ukraine expects Russia to drop back for the rest of this winter (destroying infrastructure and civilians along the way), and then make a concerted effort in the spring. Russia needs to be completely defeated before spring gets here, in my opinion, or this thing will just keep going on, destroying lives and the infrastructure of Ukraine.

[nhplowboi]

Great job last night Mr. President!
Sarah Huckabee Sanders.....you are the exact reason church and state should not mix. You came across as an extreme rightwing religious nutcase.

[Kätzchen]

Same for me, I thought President Biden showed exemplary behavior and critical thinking skills.


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“People don’t need religion: Religion needs people. They’re (religion, church) just a corporation that needs your money to thrive. Religion doesnt make you a better person. Intelligence and kindness makes you a better person. Religion doesn’t feed poor people. Good People with big hearts do that. Just remember that. — Don Freeman.

In other news …. This is exactly how I feel about religion.

If you ask me, religion is just another way for grifters to grift money off the members of society to pave their life experience in financial ways.