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Old 06-14-2010, 03:45 PM   #1
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As I thought about this new event and was reading this, I couldn't help but be struck by the irony of today. My company's lawyers filed for my H1-B petition, the precursor towards a green card and potential citizenship. To me, I feel like I'm do not deserve this compared to all those families, kids, friends, etc., who came here truly in search of freedom. Freedom from fear of being attacked by cartels, of potential no hope, and a variety of other things that depress the hopes of individuals.

As I read the Huffington Post article I linked I found the following comment:



To me, this will do nothing more than strangle the growth of the US. The vast diversity that exists in this country (although the honking of NYC could abate a little) is what makes it great in many ways. The ability to take on challenges and forge through them are what makes Americans unique in many ways.

It is, to me, short-sighted to blame the ills of a city, state or nation on a single factor. There is too much intertwining going on in the world today. Children born in the US should be, by all rights, American citizens (as per Amendment 14, clause #1).

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If one denies these children their rights, then how far can the state/gov't go to deny other individual rights?

If the Federal Government doesn't take on this, then it will just be one more thing to be disappointed about Obama and his administration.

We have a saying here, it goes something like: Too much (insert ice cream truck music) not enough ice cream. That is how I see the Obama years so far.


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I've heard rumor that MN Rep Michele Bachmann is an anchor baby. Can we send her back first?
We could only be so lucky, lol to send her back!
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:36 PM   #2
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I've heard rumor that MN Rep Michele Bachmann is an anchor baby. Can we send her back first?
Oh, how I would love this to be true! Did some research online.... came up with nothing about this other than her speeches, etc. about anchor babies. Then, again, after an overview of all of her insanity as a politician (and person), I could only take on about 6 articles..... that was enough. Really hard to hear her at the moment of her whacko statements, but to read them all in one sitting is just too much!


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Well, we are jesting here, and I so get it, but, get really upset with anti-anchor baby stuff that I don't want anyone in the US sent anywhere via this trash. But, I sure can think of a few places I would love to send this woman!

But, you all have a point!!

You ever think about her as a GOP Presidential or VP candidate... or better yet.... Liz Cheny! I really think she might be a GOP candidate in 2012... ARGH....


You were just joshing, huh?

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If the Federal Government doesn't take on this, then it will just be one more thing to be disappointed about Obama and his administration.

We have a saying here, it goes something like: Too much (insert ice cream truck music) not enough ice cream. That is how I see the Obama years so far.




We could only be so lucky, lol to send her back!
Actually, if such a law were to pass then it would go to the Federal courts which would either strike it down or pass it up to the Supreme Court. This would be, largely, out of the hands of the Obama administration (or any administration). That process would start, quite automatically, once a law passed and someone was harmed by it.

Now, I don't think that any such law will see the light of day. The Constitution is *very* explicit on this matter and while most people don't realize *why* the 14th Amendment exists, there are those of us who are beneficiaries of that amendment who recognize precisely why it exists.

(For those who don't, at the end of the Civil War, the status of black Americans was up for grabs. Up until that point, we were not considered citizens in a full legal sense. The 14th Amendment was passed to get around what the Southern states *wanted* to happen which was that black citizens would not be considered citizens of the United States. So the 14th was passed to make it clear that American citizenship automatically adheres to anyone born here. Forgive me for being so blunt but I do not trust the majority enough to see that Amendment repealed or even substantially changed. )

I understand the strategy the Republicans are trying. In the short run (2010 - 2012) it *might* pay off although I think it's a long-odds gamble. Past 2016 they will rue the day they decided that stoking racial resentment was the path to electoral glory.

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