"Becoming Chaz"

Lost_punk_boi · 04-30-2011, 11:10 PM

Thank you for sharing this link! I had heard about it, but not much! That is sooo amazing!!! But why the Oprah Network tho?!?!?!

wolfbittenpoet · 05-01-2011, 09:42 AM

I think I am going to be forced to watch OWN. But I am glad it'll be on. One of the things I think is hurting Cher the most is that as Chaz transitions he looks more and more like his father.

Strappie · 05-01-2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost_punk_boi

Thank you for sharing this link! I had heard about it, but not much! That is sooo amazing!!! But why the Oprah Network tho?!?!?!

To me it don't matter what network it is... It's on!! It's the only network I 'm sure that would take it on.

Andrew, Jr. · 05-01-2011, 01:59 PM

It should be interesting to watch.

Elijah · 05-01-2011, 02:02 PM

It is really hard to listen to Cher call him, "she/her", but I have an understanding of how hard it is for families who have known you as one thing for XX number of years to shift their thinking.

I watch My family struggle, too.

I hope she opens herself to a deeper understanding of her son.

~Elijah

Sachita · 05-10-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost_punk_boi

Thank you for sharing this link! I had heard about it, but not much! That is sooo amazing!!! But why the Oprah Network tho?!?!?!

have you ever heard of the Oprah Effect? Millions or middle america and all across the world people watching every single show or taping it. I don't think Chaz could have picked a better venue IMO.

As for Cher's reaction.... as other stated, it an adjustment. I remember talking a friend once who just discovered her son was gay. She was sadden by it and I asked her why, since she was also queer. She wasn't sad over his lifestyle choice but the difficult life he might have in today's world. Even today gays are treated unfairly and let's face it, being queer is not the easiest choice, but we have no choice, right? She was fearful of him getting hurt, killed by ignorant idiots and having to fight so hard for love. Can you imagine how fearful a mother of a transgendered child? OMG I can be the most openminded person in the world, want my child to be happy but I also want them safe. I'm sure the reaction was knee jerk and she learns to love chaz as he is, accepting and even embracing who he is.

Strappie · 05-10-2011, 04:51 PM

HI all,

I really want to see this. If anyone knows of an online channel I can view this please post it.

I tried all my friends and know body has this channel.

Martina · 05-10-2011, 05:22 PM

i get that people react differently but she has all the time in the world -- and the resources. She can find out about T. She doesn't have to "not know."

Corkey · 05-10-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Strappie

HI all,

I really want to see this. If anyone knows of an online channel I can view this please post it.

I tried all my friends and know body has this channel.

Do you have a local gay bar or outreach that does?

DapperButch · 05-10-2011, 09:00 PM

I spent the whole documentary worrying what Jenny was going to do next that would be embarrassing for Chaz to have on film. I think I was projecting my own anxiety onto Chaz...the anxiety I had with my crazy first girlfriend when we were in public (she was QUITE "Jenny like").

princessbelle · 05-10-2011, 09:03 PM

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I spent the whole documentary worrying what Jenny was going to do next that would be embarrassing for Chaz to have on film. I think I was projecting my own anxiety onto Chaz...the anxiety I had with my crazy first girlfriend when we were in public (she was QUITE "Jenny like").

I have to agree. I hoped to see someone that really supported him in a more positive way. You know...someone like the femmes/partners on BFP...lol. Seriously, I hope they make it. Seems they both need a lot of support. But, for sure it wasn't sugar coated at all.

I wish them both the best.

Still want someone to invite them to the reunion though.

DomnNC · 05-10-2011, 09:09 PM

I would imagine Cher is grieving the loss of her only daughter, even tho she's gained a son (which she always had but never knew). She's also concerned as a parent of all the health ramifications that taking T could potentially have. It's going to take time for her to adjust just as it will for all his family, friends etcetcetc. But I'm sure the more Chazz becomes more comfortable and more happy being his true self and she sees this that she will also become happy for him and more accepting of his decision. Give her time to grieve her loss, she'll come around just as most of his close circle will. He understands that as well, he's handling it quite well.

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Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,278 Times in 4,165 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	i get that people react differently but she has all the time in the world -- and the resources. She can find out about T. She doesn't have to "not know."

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