Have you met or know a psychopath/sociopath?

moxie · 09-10-2011, 07:45 PM

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is not the same as sociopathy or psychopathy. Being diagnosed with a personality disorder does not put a person in the same realm as someone with sociopathy or psychopathy.
Personality Disorders are not the same as Bipolar Disorder.

Glenn · 09-11-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by puregrrl

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is not the same as sociopathy or psychopathy. Being diagnosed with a personality disorder does not put a person in the same realm as someone with sociopathy or psychopathy.
Personality Disorders are not the same as Bipolar Disorder.

I dunno puregrr, is'nt antisocial a personality disorder also? I always thought of it as being on a spectrum with a sociopath being the ultimate narcissistic personality. popcorn- bs in psych.

moxie · 09-11-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by popcorninthesofa

I dunno puregrr, is'nt antisocial a personality disorder also? I always thought of it as being on a spectrum with a sociopath being the ultimate narcissistic personality. popcorn- bs in psych.

Yes, there is an Antisocial Personality Disorder, but there are also others, 9 more if I remember correctly (I don't have my DSM at home). They are grouped into diagnostic clusters based on traits. And just because someone has been diagnosed with a personality disorder it doesn't mean they have psychopathic/sociopathic traits. It's kinda like saying that just because someone has auditory hallucinations, they must have schizophrenia.

There is a lot of stigma with mental illness. There are so many people with mental health problems that don't get help because of the judgment and assumptions people make.

When I tell people I am therapist, one of the first things I am most always told/asked is "Oh, that must be scary. Have you ever been assaulted/hurt/threatened/creeped out/etc etc.?" That's because of the stigma.

I could go on forever about it, but I'll shut up.

imperfect_cupcake · 09-11-2011, 01:36 PM

also, not all psychopaths kill/attack people. There's a great program on this how nature plus nurture = how it manifests. One of the people who found the "gene" and brain print activity map for psychopathy did a test on his family and found that he carried the gene AND the brain map print. He had to sit down and think about how this is reflected in his behaviour. But he has no violent tendencies. He chalks that up to having a good childhood with no abuse and happy, well functioning parents.

It's on Horizon. "the moral molecule" - I am irritated with their sensationalising of it (using the word "evil") but other than that irritation, I thought it was good.

mariamma · 08-01-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by honeybarbara

It's on Horizon. "the moral molecule" - I am irritated with their sensationalising of it (using the word "evil") but other than that irritation, I thought it was good.

Excellent point! and Yes I did erase the other point. Oxytocin is being marketed as a Moral molecule, as a saving grace of Autistic people, as a magickal medicine. I do energy work meaning I work with the energy of oxytocin and other hormones and neurotransmitters. You can give someone the molecule but it won't work energetically if the person doesn't do the work!!! You can strap on a TENS unit and clench all the muscles in the body but you will not be ripped! You might be stronger? But honestly, nothing will change unless you do the work. Just taking a molecule will not change this.

Lady Pamela · 08-01-2012, 04:37 PM

This thread just hit home to one of the biggest, most dangerious and threatening happenings in mt life.

I will finish reading and then I will post.

But before I do, I want every person who has endured anything for someone like this, to know that your not alone.
To know, how incredible you are for getting away.
And to know, how amazing you are for surviving such.

.

julieisafemme · 09-11-2011, 04:10 PM

Thank you very much for this post. I have OCD and it is often troubling to me when people try to diagnose someone else or assume things about me because I have a mental illness. The stigma is very real. I am very open about my OCD because I am not ashamed of it and I want people to understand that stereotypes about it and other mental illness so rarely touch on the real pain that they cause.

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Originally Posted by puregrrl

Yes, there is an Antisocial Personality Disorder, but there are also others, 9 more if I remember correctly (I don't have my DSM at home). They are grouped into diagnostic clusters based on traits. And just because someone has been diagnosed with a personality disorder it doesn't mean they have psychopathic/sociopathic traits. It's kinda like saying that just because someone has auditory hallucinations, they must have schizophrenia.

There is a lot of stigma with mental illness. There are so many people with mental health problems that don't get help because of the judgment and assumptions people make.

When I tell people I am therapist, one of the first things I am most always told/asked is "Oh, that must be scary. Have you ever been assaulted/hurt/threatened/creeped out/etc etc.?" That's because of the stigma.

I could go on forever about it, but I'll shut up.

WolfyOne · 09-11-2011, 04:55 PM

Yes, I grew up with one
He's in prison now for murders he says he didn't commit with 3 others
It was long ago, the others have all been put to death
They never had enough on him to put him to death, but he is serving a life sentence for being involved
They all said he was their ringleader
He's the kind of person that can lie to your face, believe what he says and make you believe it, too
Sadly he's been that way forever

Soon · 04-02-2012, 04:39 PM

IT HAPPENED TO ME: I WAS MARRIED TO A SOCIOPATH

Quintease · 04-02-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

IT HAPPENED TO ME: I WAS MARRIED TO A SOCIOPATH

My God.

It scares me that I dated a psycopath/sociopath, I will never know which one she was. To this day it freaks me out that I put myself in danger for so long, unable to see what was happening right in front of my face.

I feel sorry for whoever's life she is messing up now. Really really sorry.

Softly · 04-05-2012, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

IT HAPPENED TO ME: I WAS MARRIED TO A SOCIOPATH

so sad! I am glad she got away

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