2012 US General Election Discussions: Start to Finish - Page 26

Gentle Tiger · 11-06-2012, 08:14 AM

Ok I may be a tad excited to vote today. I am already in line; mind you the polls do not open until 7. I may be a but early. The time is now 6:12. Needless to say, I am 1st in line.

Sun · 11-06-2012, 08:21 AM

Please send good thoughts to AZ today. Voters are really up against it here in this small conservative state. The locals have worked diligently to educate the public yet much is still up in the air.

In Maricopa county voters hope to get rid of Sheriff Joe Arpaio, the most violent, hateful, anti immigrant, anti gay, racist, vile person to ever collect a paycheck from taxpayers. Arpaio is best known for his "Tent City" where inmates get to suffer in tents with temps topping 120 degrees in the summertime. They are served poisoned food and many are left to die in those conditions. Women in particular suffer his tents, left with no meds or basic health care supplies if they are ill. The Feds have been investigating him but he is still in his position. The locals want him gone. I hope to see him in jail soon. But for now, lets all hope that AZ voters do the right thing today.

Happy Voting everyone!!

Medusa · 11-06-2012, 08:21 AM

My job gives us 2 hours for voting so Jack and I are about to leave the house to go vote!

lusciouskiwi · 11-06-2012, 08:32 AM

Gentle Tiger · 11-06-2012, 08:59 AM

Oh for heaven's sake! I just witnessed the Poll Volunteers taking their oath. I was moved and proud of them. I applauded when they were done.

Saints preserve us.

In other news, I have voted & wearing my sticker proudly.

Scuba · 11-06-2012, 09:23 AM

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SelfMadeMan · 11-06-2012, 09:51 AM

I just got home from voting! Cast my ballot for OBAMA and said NO to two proposed MN constitutional amendments - to define marriage as one man and one woman, and a voter ID restriction. Now the whole day of anxiety ahead....

SelfMadeMan · 11-06-2012, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lusciouskiwi

I'm in Minnesota, and one of Stacy's cousins was telling me that she was sad she wasn't registered to vote - I said "who would you vote for?" and she said "Obama of course, plus I don't want them to amend the constitution to define marriage as a man and a woman only..." So I said, "I'm happy to tell you that we have same day registration here, and I'll be right there!" So I took her to vote

(Yes - I fully admit had she said she was voting for Romney, I wouldn't have been so helpful, lol)

GraffitiBoi · 11-06-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SelfMadeMan

I'm in Minnesota, and one of Stacy's cousins was telling me that she was sad she wasn't registered to vote - I said "who would you vote for?" and she said "Obama of course, plus I don't want them to amend the constitution to define marriage as a man and a woman only..." So I said, "I'm happy to tell you that we have same day registration here, and I'll be right there!" So I took her to vote

(Yes - I fully admit had she said she was voting for Romney, I wouldn't have been so helpful, lol)

Thankfully I'm in MN too. I forgot to register after I moved and made a small change to my legal name. They are pretty good about registering there. Had to make sure I didn't have any Vote No propoganda on me or my car though. They are refusing to let anyone vote if they are wearing any political propoganda or if they are parked within 100 feet from the polls and have stuff on their car.

Kobi · 11-06-2012, 10:06 AM

Ok is 11am. Waiting on the Bulldog update.

Have tried watching the coverage but it was messing up my peace.

Anything I want to know about?

LipstickLola · 11-06-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kobi

Ok is 11am. Waiting on the Bulldog update.

Have tried watching the coverage but it was messing up my peace.

Anything I want to know about?

No peace here! I've bitten my last nail and now I'm baking, *newsflash* I don't bake!!

I keep returning to the different cable channels and switching back and forth, this has become my routine the past several weeks as I"ve recovered from joint replacement, I really really need to get a life!!! sigh....cannot wait til 7 pm (east coast time)

LipstickLola · 11-06-2012, 10:27 AM

Does anyone else believe the election will take longer than today to decide??

GraffitiBoi · 11-06-2012, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LipstickLola

Does anyone else believe the election will take longer than today to decide??

Yes. And I wouldn't be surprised if there are 'errors' or 'problems' with some of the polls and recounts are demanded... blah blah blah

SelfMadeMan · 11-06-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GraffitiBoi

Thankfully I'm in MN too. I forgot to register after I moved and made a small change to my legal name. They are pretty good about registering there. Had to make sure I didn't have any Vote No propoganda on me or my car though. They are refusing to let anyone vote if they are wearing any political propoganda or if they are parked within 100 feet from the polls and have stuff on their car.

Oh wow! I got LUCKY then! I was parked right out front with a Vote No sticker and another big stop sign sticker that says "STOP the Republican War on Women"

LipstickLola · 11-06-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GraffitiBoi

Yes. And I wouldn't be surprised if there are 'errors' or 'problems' with some of the polls and recounts are demanded... blah blah blah

I'm gearing my mind up for this as well, most especially the precincts where Obama wins. Thing is, I'm outta valium, OMG

GraffitiBoi · 11-06-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SelfMadeMan

Oh wow! I got LUCKY then! I was parked right out front with a Vote No sticker and another big stop sign sticker that says "STOP the Republican War on Women"

You did get lucky! One of my friends who has the Vote No wrap on her car was told to park somewhere else. She went the required 100 feet away from the doors and parked right at the entrance to the parking lot - first thing people saw pulling in was her car with Vote No HUGE all over it!

A church that is a polling site here in Minneapolis has signs promoting vote yes. Voters called the hotline to complain and the church was forced to take the signs down.

If the amendment passes I'm moving out of MN as soon as work can transfer me. They know to expect my transfer request depending on the results. LOL

BullDog · 11-06-2012, 10:44 AM

Happy Election Day everyone!

Belle woke me up way too early, so I have been sitting in front of the tv in a daze drinking coffee.

I am feeling a bit nervous but confident.

I don't have anything new really. I think Obama will win Ohio but don't want to totally rely on it, so I am looking forward to seeing results from Virginia. People in lines in Florida look fired up!

DMW · 11-06-2012, 10:45 AM

My past experience,2000,2004,08 looking into the voting tallies....bbc is pretty damn accurate. And the sec. state. office posts results for each state.

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/(CO) 11/2012 - COLORADO SETS THE STAGE FOR A BOGUS ELECTION - Colorado election integrity and transparency is now officially out the window, with a series of corruption protection rules and new laws.

1. Let's begin with the unflappable Donetta Davidson, who collaborated with convicted embezzler Jeffrey Dean(1) to remove voter privacy, through a contract specification that required him to redo his absentee mail software in order to embed a method to tie voted ballots to the voters. This shifty business, which now includes all absentee ballots cast on Hart eSlate machines, has led to a blockade on ALL Colorado election accounting records (see #4, below).

2. Next, in a move that has most of us scratching our heads, Colorado Sec. State Gessler proposed new rules in December 2011 to remove requirements for continuous video surveillance.(2) Though billed as "cost saving," note that most video surveillance nowadays is simply piped into digital files stored on a Web site. Since cameras are already installed, there is no significant cost savings in allowing non-continuous surveillance.

3. Sec. State Gessler also decided to reduce the number of seals on voting machines,(2) to the chagrin of election integrity groups like Voter Action, whose investigations and litigation demonstrated vulnerabilities requiring the seals in the first place. The "cost savings" in this measure can be counted in pennies.

4. A number of protective accounting measures crucial for evaluating election tampering have been taken off the table though a new law to block election-related public records examination.

Donetta Davidson led the lobbying for this law. Davidson had become a commissioner of the U.S. Election Assistence Commission, then took a step down to take over the Colorado Clerks Association. In this capacity she led a fight to block the media and citizens from examining the ballots. And no wonder: She knew that due to changes made under her administration, private companies had marks embedded on the ballots enabling them to harvest data tying votes to voters.

Thanks to a lawsuit by Colorado citizen Marilyn Marks, of The Citizen Center, sponsored and assisted by Black Box Voting, the Colorado Supreme Court affirmed right to examine ballots. Marks was shocked when she discovered that identifying marks on the ballots allowed her to immediately associate every voted ballot with the voter who cast it. Marks, The Citizen Center, (and Black Box Voting) are now involved in litigation to permanently prohibit this harvesting of personal political information. In the interim, Sec. State Gessler has required that the identifiers be removed for November 2012 only.

With ballot examination affirmed to be in the public domain, Davidson's next move was to block ballot examination until after all remedies had expired. Using her clout, she lobbied successfully for the removal of ballots -- AND OTHER CRUCIAL ELECTION RECORDS, SUCH AS POLL LISTS -- from any access by election watchdogs until 45 days after the election.(3)

One telltale sign of election tampering is when thousands more votes than voters show up. But in Colorado, neither the media nor the public will be allowed to examine the poll lists or the list of names for voters said to have voted absentee, until too late to do anything about discrepancies.

5. And then there is the matter of alleged Romney ties to the second-biggest voting machine manufacturer in America. These connections are being minimized by Internet outlets like Snopes, but the straight truth is that Hart Intercivic, the firm that supplies two-thirds of Colorado counties with their voting machines, is now owned by a spin-off of Bain & Company (H.I.G. Capital).(4)

A majority of Hart's directors are now H.I.G. guys, and the directors of H.I.G. are Romney bundlers and donors who don't hedge their bets by donating to any other presidential candidate.

This isn't the first time Romney has had his buddies in charge of crucial election processes this year. Some weeks after the misreported figures in the Iowa caucus, which incorrectly cited Romney as the winner, Black Box Voting uncovered that Romney staffers had been brought in to run the Iowa Caucus, and the Nevada Caucus too. Besides heading Romney campaign functions, these guys were associated with an odious Colorado political firm which narrowly escaped prosecution for maliciously misleading political ads.(5)

And the Romney affiliation with Hart Intercivic doesn't rule out his buddies -- or Obama's buddies -- or George Soros -- or the Chinese, for that matter -- owning the other companies. Election Systems & Software (ES&S) does not reveal who its owners are, and we don't know who owns Dominion either. ES&S directly handles voting machines in three Colorado counties; it co-produces elections on the old Diebold equipment with Dominion, with ES&S supplying technicians in some U.S. locations and Dominion in others. Dominion owns Sequoia Voting Systems (or does it? No one seems to be quite sure...), used in large... More

BullDog · 11-06-2012, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aishah

republican acquaintances on fb are bashing obama for having jay-z at his rally and maybe it wasn't the best political move but...this is today's jam.

Ha ha they are just jealous. The Democrats have Jay-Z and Bruce Springsteen. The Republicans have Meatloaf and Kid Rock, lol.

Martina · 11-06-2012, 11:02 AM

I voted. No line.

FIRE IT UP! READY TO GO!!!

11-06-2012, 08:14 AM	#501
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11-06-2012, 10:27 AM	#512
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11-06-2012, 10:45 AM	#518
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This shifty business, which now includes all absentee ballots cast on Hart eSlate machines, has led to a blockade on ALL Colorado election accounting records (see #4, below). 2. Next, in a move that has most of us scratching our heads, Colorado Sec. State Gessler proposed new rules in December 2011 to remove requirements for continuous video surveillance.(2) Though billed as "cost saving," note that most video surveillance nowadays is simply piped into digital files stored on a Web site. Since cameras are already installed, there is no significant cost savings in allowing non-continuous surveillance. 3. Sec. State Gessler also decided to reduce the number of seals on voting machines,(2) to the chagrin of election integrity groups like Voter Action, whose investigations and litigation demonstrated vulnerabilities requiring the seals in the first place. The "cost savings" in this measure can be counted in pennies. 4. A number of protective accounting measures crucial for evaluating election tampering have been taken off the table though a new law to block election-related public records examination. Donetta Davidson led the lobbying for this law. Davidson had become a commissioner of the U.S. Election Assistence Commission, then took a step down to take over the Colorado Clerks Association. In this capacity she led a fight to block the media and citizens from examining the ballots. And no wonder: She knew that due to changes made under her administration, private companies had marks embedded on the ballots enabling them to harvest data tying votes to voters. Thanks to a lawsuit by Colorado citizen Marilyn Marks, of The Citizen Center, sponsored and assisted by Black Box Voting, the Colorado Supreme Court affirmed right to examine ballots. Marks was shocked when she discovered that identifying marks on the ballots allowed her to immediately associate every voted ballot with the voter who cast it. Marks, The Citizen Center, (and Black Box Voting) are now involved in litigation to permanently prohibit this harvesting of personal political information. In the interim, Sec. State Gessler has required that the identifiers be removed for November 2012 only. With ballot examination affirmed to be in the public domain, Davidson's next move was to block ballot examination until after all remedies had expired. Using her clout, she lobbied successfully for the removal of ballots -- AND OTHER CRUCIAL ELECTION RECORDS, SUCH AS POLL LISTS -- from any access by election watchdogs until 45 days after the election.(3) One telltale sign of election tampering is when thousands more votes than voters show up. But in Colorado, neither the media nor the public will be allowed to examine the poll lists or the list of names for voters said to have voted absentee, until too late to do anything about discrepancies. 5. And then there is the matter of alleged Romney ties to the second-biggest voting machine manufacturer in America. These connections are being minimized by Internet outlets like Snopes, but the straight truth is that Hart Intercivic, the firm that supplies two-thirds of Colorado counties with their voting machines, is now owned by a spin-off of Bain & Company (H.I.G. Capital).(4) A majority of Hart's directors are now H.I.G. guys, and the directors of H.I.G. are Romney bundlers and donors who don't hedge their bets by donating to any other presidential candidate. This isn't the first time Romney has had his buddies in charge of crucial election processes this year. Some weeks after the misreported figures in the Iowa caucus, which incorrectly cited Romney as the winner, Black Box Voting uncovered that Romney staffers had been brought in to run the Iowa Caucus, and the Nevada Caucus too. Besides heading Romney campaign functions, these guys were associated with an odious Colorado political firm which narrowly escaped prosecution for maliciously misleading political ads.(5) And the Romney affiliation with Hart Intercivic doesn't rule out his buddies -- or Obama's buddies -- or George Soros -- or the Chinese, for that matter -- owning the other companies. Election Systems & Software (ES&S) does not reveal who its owners are, and we don't know who owns Dominion either. ES&S directly handles voting machines in three Colorado counties; it co-produces elections on the old Diebold equipment with Dominion, with ES&S supplying technicians in some U.S. locations and Dominion in others. Dominion owns Sequoia Voting Systems (or does it? No one seems to be quite sure...), used in large... More

11-06-2012, 11:02 AM	#520
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