Questions of Ethics - Page 2

tapu · 07-05-2011, 03:43 PM

Never thought I'd say this, but things are getting a little too concrete for me now. I don't read this as having anything to do with whether or not one is a "doer" or whether there is time enough to do something or nothing. As with suggesting that you couldn't really know what would happen, this is of no consequence to a philosophical discussion. The conditions of all this are set, to start with. When I urge concrete details, I mean consistent bases for moral decisions.

OF COURSE, carry on; I just find my own mind getting muddled as to what the moral arguments are, or even what to take seriously as argumentation. If that's out of place--let me know--that's cool. I'm just finding my way around still.

dreadgeek · 07-05-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tapu

Never thought I'd say this, but things are getting a little too concrete for me now. I don't read this as having anything to do with whether or not one is a "doer" or whether there is time enough to do something or nothing. As with suggesting that you couldn't really know what would happen, this is of no consequence to a philosophical discussion. The conditions of all this are set, to start with. When I urge concrete details, I mean consistent bases for moral decisions.

OF COURSE, carry on; I just find my own mind getting muddled as to what the moral arguments are, or even what to take seriously as argumentation. If that's out of place--let me know--that's cool. I'm just finding my way around still.

Tapu;

Like you, I read the initial conditions for the thought experiment to be set at the outset by the original poster. I have tried to hew pretty closely to those initial conditions. Also like you, I'm curious as to what criterion people use for making their moral choices.

Cheers
Aj

tonaderspeisung · 07-05-2011, 09:38 PM

i read the initial post as a question of which is the right sided action
not a question of should an action be performed or not

upon rereading my initial posts i should clarify i find both actions equally right and i don't see either as a wrong sided outcome given the facts in the initial scenario.

i would hold the people at the tracks accountable/responsible for being active participants in their own fate.

i am curious for those who find the utilitarian view so handily the right sided solution
should the many have that much advantage when the outcome of the few in this case is so absolute?

that is the one fact that keeps this a zero sum on both sides for me.

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tonaderspeisung Member How Do You Identify?: asleep at the synthesizer Preferred Pronoun?: crown prince of dirty disco Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: the dollar bin Posts: 1,392 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,082 Thanked 1,751 Times in 849 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	i read the initial post as a question of which is the right sided action not a question of should an action be performed or not upon rereading my initial posts i should clarify i find both actions equally right and i don't see either as a wrong sided outcome given the facts in the initial scenario. i would hold the people at the tracks accountable/responsible for being active participants in their own fate. i am curious for those who find the utilitarian view so handily the right sided solution should the many have that much advantage when the outcome of the few in this case is so absolute? that is the one fact that keeps this a zero sum on both sides for me.