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I have absolutely no idea what you're so upset about. I'm not being defensive at all. I'm explaining why I decided to start this as a thread instead of just looking it up. I'm not bent out of shape either. I'm just genuinely confused by your response. (I didn't mean to 'thank' your response. Slipped finger.) I'm lost.
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forget it. it's saturday night.
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Seriously? Everyone needs to take a deep breath. The OP even stated that the term is disturbing to her because she has heard it used in stock breeding. For those of you who don't know what that is, it's a term used on farms and ranches and other places on the planet for breeding animals. She did NOT equate animals to butches, so get over it already.
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You really aren't being offensive. Ask anything you like anytime...this IS what we are here for...support. |
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i agree!
we were all new once and not familiar with terms and language. We all had to learn from others since there is no manual (or is there?). i still stumble and i been around a long damn time. i will always enjoy conversations that are brought forth from a place of honesty and sincerity, which i found she is. She seems willing to accept that even unintentional words can offend, and we must be careful of that. i'm looking forward to more on this subject ! |
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Two points
One, it is always good to be careful when asking about ID's. Perhaps more careful than the OP was. Two, I am thankful we didn't dogpile the OP. I just am. |
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Most of my thoughts have pretty much been covered, but to touch on a point Girl_on_Fire referenced in her OP, I have noticed that some of the younger generation of our community is using that term, and not related to the African American cultural connection.
I think it's interesting that the term is being adopted by a group that it may not normally have been associated with but I feel a tiny bit of hesitancy in that the original cultural connection may be lost along the way. |
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Hi Girl, Stud can also be defined as the structural part of a wall that eventually holds up the house itself...And isn't that what being butch is about? Strength, tenacity of will and structure....all a part of the foundation of life. So, next time you hear stud and it offends you to think of it in "breeding stock" terms....think of it in this way... there are always two sides to every story....just how you look at it that makes the world of difference. MacDaddy
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![]() Stud, Macha and Aggressive are just a couple of Identities that have evolved over the last decade or so within the history of those Identifying masculine, they do not replace Butch as an Identity nor do these terms dictate pronouns. Or sexual preference. Self Identity is an empowering experience, and being able to express that with a term that feels right is awesome. Butch is not a one term fits all, especially in a Community that is becoming more beautifully diverse every day. ![]() ![]()
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