Casey Anthony - guilty, or not?

[Okiebug61]

One of the most disturbing things for me about the entire situation is the vigilante way people act. I am not the higher power, I am not a person who can say she did or did not commit this horrific crime. It saddens me that so many are followers instead of leaders. If you think she is guilty then do something to help prevent this from happening to another child.

I am human and I have made mistakes, some have been not so good. I am thankful that I was not faced with a mob of vigilante finger pointing people who think they should have the final say in my destiny.

Peace!

[Andrew, Jr.]

I am wondering what is going to happen to Casey Anthony after the judge free's her. Where is she going to go? She is really not going to have any sort of life. It is pretty much like what happened to OJ Simpson. And like OJ, I do believe that Casey will be back in jail at some point. I think she is suffering from some sort of mental illness. She maybe sane, but she has something going on.

As for George and Cindy Anthony, I am sure they will be moving. They need a new start. I don't think that Casey will be welcome in their home after she threw them under the bus. That relationship is just destroyed. Casey killed it.

Oakiebug61,

I loved your post. I agree with it. There is a petition you can sign that if anyone (mother, father, grandparent, etc.) doesn't report a missing child, infant, etc. you can be jailed, fined, and charged with a misdameaner crime.

I always have had fingers pointed at me for anything I did right or wrong. It is how I was raised. And even to this day, my bio-parents still do it. Even strangers point at me because of being a ftm. The gang up situation is not pleasant. Not by a long shot. It kills one's self esteem.

[Mister Bent]

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

I always have had fingers pointed at me for anything I did right or wrong. It is how I was raised. And even to this day, my bio-parents still do it. Even strangers point at me because of being a ftm. The gang up situation is not pleasant. Not by a long shot. It kills one's self esteem.

Just to be clear, am I to understand you're concerned for Casey Anthony's self esteem? (Given that this thread is about her and the recent trial).

[JustJo]

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

I have been listening to the news and I just learned the following:

1. the State of FL is going after Casey for the money spent on searches for Caylee, and the court costs;

2. the jurors want to be paid for any and all interviews that they do;

3. Casey wrote in a letter to another cellmate that she wants to adopt another child or two;

4. one of the juror's (no. 3) is back peddling after realizing most of the world is against the verdict;

5. Casey has been offered a porn job, but the offer was taken back after the promoter saw the reaction to the verdict;

6. Casey will earn a ton of money to tell her story via book, tv movie, film, and so on.

Lots of this is speculation and rumor at this point...

[NJFemmie]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

When I lost a child, drinking and dancing was the furthest thing from my mind, I'm trying really hard to wrap my mind around the partying, the "the kids out of town", the blaming 2 POC, the breaking in her own parents shed for gas cans, duct tape, I mean I could go on and on. Sociopaths can go on with life without skipping a beat, she's got a taste for it she won't stop, they never do.

You're right - they never do. In their minds, whatever they do is justifiable. Maybe not to you or me or anyone else, but in their minds, everything, including lives - are expendable. I'm not necessarily stating that every narcissist/sociopath in the world is a killer, but the ones that are, are very dangerous and cunning people indeed. They push on with no conscience whatsoever.

On another note: There is a juror who is speaking about it now, and she says that the only reason why she was acquitted was because of the evidence -- no one knows how Caylee died - it wasn't because of what they felt in their hearts. I don't think she is back peddling - one of the first things she said was what has been said in here - she's not guilty, but she's not innocent. I think the majority of people feel that way with very few feeling that she was actually innocent.

Makes me wonder if the defense team had their own doubts about her, which I am sure they did. They called her out as a liar right off the bat ... so how can they not? Which makes me think about this supposed book deal that is in the works ... not that I would ever consider buying it - but with four counts of lying to the police and authorities - the book should be considered fiction. Her side of the story means absolutely nothing - it would be all lies anyway I imagine.

[Andrew, Jr.]

JustJo: ABC News paid up to 5 figures according to Barbara Walters for juror #3's interview on tv yesterday. The jail house letters were made public for all to read (about having children, changing her hair color, changing her name, and so on). The State of FL has already filed for Casey to repay the state for the searches done for Casey, and court costs. I am not sure about fines. This will be answered at her hearing at 9am today. You have to remember that in the State of FL there are no laws about Casey's income potential following this case.

Andrew

[NJFemmie]

Unfortunately, her income potential will be based on all the creepy men who find her "hot". Ugh. Despicable.

[Andrew, Jr.]

The one thing juror #3 said was that "they were sick over the verdict" in this case...well, it was obviously the wrong decision.

I wonder about Equi-Search from Texas - if they will also file a suit against Casey Anthony today for costs of searching for her for Caylee.

Cindy Anthony could face perjury charges...I really doubt that this will be followed up on. I do think that this will never be addressed in court. It was a mother trying to save her daughter's life.

[JustJo]

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

You have to remember that in the State of FL there are no laws about Casey's income potential following this case.

Andrew

Actually, there would be no legal limitation to her profiting anywhere...not just in Florida.

The laws that disallow profiting from a crime apply to people who are found guilty. She was found not guilty...so she can profit from anything she can convince people to pay her for.

Frankly, I'll be thrilled if Florida recoups their money from the cost of searches from any profit she makes. I live in Florida, so I'd rather not help pay those costs....let her do it.

[Mr. Moon]

Originally Posted by Mister Bent

Just to be clear, am I to understand you're concerned for Casey Anthony's self esteem? (Given that this thread is about her and the recent trial).

Nice..... this is a very nice way to bait someone. wtf?
If he was saying that he would have said that. Yer reading in.

Now I see how people get in arguments on this site. I'm not here enough to witness it first hand, but this time I am.

Hope this made you feel good, whoever you are.

I'm irritated by it. Blocking now. So say whatever. I'd report it if I knew how.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Well, she'll be out at the latest in July. Bleah...

[princessbelle]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Well, she'll be out at the latest in July. Bleah...

It's all so unfair and nothing we can do.

I suppose it is what it is. However, i believe as many here, she will end up back in jail for something, it is just a matter of time. Just worries me what it will be due to.

Hate to be a "debby downer" but it's just all very sad to me and disheartening.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

When I lost a child, drinking and dancing was the furthest thing from my mind, I'm trying really hard to wrap my mind around the partying, the "the kids out of town", the blaming 2 POC, the breaking in her own parents shed for gas cans, duct tape, I mean I could go on and on. Sociopaths can go on with life without skipping a beat, she's got a taste for it she won't stop, they never do.

This is what gets me. Even if what she said in court is true....she is scary.

[Jess]

If there can be anything "good" seen coming out of this tragedy, it is the people's action to indeed change or create new laws based upon the unrest of sentiment following this trial.

Several states as well as a motion to create a Federal Law dubbed the Caylee Law are now the buzz.

As a people, we do certainly have the right to feel enraged when we see what we think is injustice, however, instead of arguing among ourselves, it may serve our righteous anger better to find or start the movement to prevent this from happening again.

A couple of stories that give me hope that WE are NOT sitting idly by, but are indeed looking for a means to change things:

In Oklahoma:
http://www.koco.com/r/28472049/detail.html

In Florida:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43659842...caylees-death/

On the Federal level:
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/con...nal-power.html

One thing we can do:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/cay...marie-anthony/

[Queerasfck]

Originally Posted by Mr. Moon

Nice..... this is a very nice way to bait someone. wtf?
If he was saying that he would have said that. Yer reading in.

Now I see how people get in arguments on this site. I'm not here enough to witness it first hand, but this time I am.

Hope this made you feel good, whoever you are.

I'm irritated by it. Blocking now. So say whatever. I'd report it if I knew how.

FYI, to report someone's post you simply go to the bottom left side of the particular offensive post and click on the small red triangle with the exclamation point on it and leave your message as to why the post is being reported.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Jess

If there can be anything "good" seen coming out of this tragedy, it is the people's action to indeed change or create new laws based upon the unrest of sentiment following this trial.

Several states as well as a motion to create a Federal Law dubbed the Caylee Law are now the buzz.

As a people, we do certainly have the right to feel enraged when we see what we think is injustice, however, instead of arguing among ourselves, it may serve our righteous anger better to find or start the movement to prevent this from happening again.

A couple of stories that give me hope that WE are NOT sitting idly by, but are indeed looking for a means to change things:

In Oklahoma:
http://www.koco.com/r/28472049/detail.html

In Florida:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43659842...caylees-death/

On the Federal level:
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/con...nal-power.html

One thing we can do:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/cay...marie-anthony/

If nothing else, I bet the number of crimes one is charged in these cases will increase...at best case scenario she did way more than just lie to the police.

[Jess]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

If nothing else, I bet the number of crimes one is charged in these cases will increase...at best case scenario she did way more than just lie to the police.

I agree. I think unfortunately the cruelty that our society imposes upon one another ( even on our children) has been too taboo to speak about ( much less create laws regarding) until the advent of the internet and our ability to instantly share our feelings.

I do think we will see more encompassing laws as "the people" are able to respond so quickly and directly to our lawmakers.

Depraved indifference is the one thing that keeps coming to mind.

Not to continue stirring a pot, I do hope that as a society, we begin to more quickly enlist a means for prevention rather than live in the "woulda/coulda/shoulda" mentality of our past.

[Mister Bent]

Originally Posted by EzeeTiger

FYI, to report someone's post you simply go to the bottom left side of the particular offensive post and click on the small red triangle with the exclamation point on it and leave your message as to why the post is being reported.

You really know how to help a brother out.

At least I was spared having to give a lesson in how to follow the logic of a statement.

[Jess]

Oklahoma woman calls for parents who fail to notify police of missing child to be charged with felony; more than 37,000 supporters join in less than 24 hours.

More than 37,000 people in all 50 states have joined a Change.org campaign calling for a federal law -- called “Caylee’s Law” -- that would make the failure of a parent to notify law enforcement of a child’s disappearance a felony.

Casey Anthony was found “not guilty” of first-degree murder or manslaughter on Tuesday in the case of her two-year-old daughter Caylee’s death. One of the central controversies of the case has been the fact that Anthony never notified law enforcement that her daughter was missing. Caylee was last seen on June 16, 2008; grandmother Cindy Anthony notified the police on July 15, a month later.

After hearing the verdict and seeing a Facebook page response, Oklahoman Michelle Crowder started a Change.org petition asking Congress to create “Caylee’s Law,” making it a federal offense and a felony for a parent or guardian to fail to report a child’s disappearance to law enforcement.

Nearly 2,000 people have signed the “Caylee’s Law” petition each hour since its creation, making it the fastest-growing campaign on Change.org.

"When I saw that Casey Anthony had been found not guilty in the murder of little Caylee, and that she was only being convicted of lying to the police about her disappearance, I was sickened; I could not believe she was not being charged with child neglect or endangerment, or even obstruction of justice,” said petition-starter Michelle Crowder.

“I saw a page on Facebook proposing that a law be made, but I saw nothing about a petition being started for it. So, I decided to start one on Change.org because I have signed several petitions on the site and I knew it would be a way to reach people and hopefully get something done.”

Michelle continued, “I am hoping that this will be made into a federal law so that no other child's life, disappearance, and/or death is treated in the manner that poor Caylee's was treated. No child deserves that."

“There is extensive debate about this issue, and this campaign has been remarkable,” said Change.org founder Ben Rattray. “In less than 24 hours, a woman in Oklahoma has recruited tens of thousands of supporters for her cause. Change.org is about empowering anyone, anywhere, to take action on the issues that are important to them, and it is the perfect platform for this record-breaking campaign.”

Change.org, the world’s fastest-growing platform for social change, was profiled this week in the New York Times, Sacramento Bee, and Washington Times.


You can click here to sign this petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/create-caylees-law

[cinderella]

(sorry, that should've read: And you *know* what, Femmie...)

even if she came out and blatently said she did do it, and even elaborated on how/why she killed Caylee, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING they can do to her - she has been acquitted, and cannot be tried again for the same crime - that's Double Jeopardy. Except, of course, she cannot run nor hide from the people's wrath. Even if she never said anything, she still has to face the public, and a good majority of the public is outraged and angry. Somebody may just be angry enough to 'off' her. All I know is, no matter where this woman goes, she will have no peace. Not because she cares or feels any remorse over Caylee, but because of the hell people are going to give her. So essentially, she will never be 'free', even if she is not in jail.

Originally Posted by NJFemmie

You're right - they never do. In their minds, whatever they do is justifiable. Maybe not to you or me or anyone else, but in their minds, everything, including lives - are expendable. I'm not necessarily stating that every narcissist/sociopath in the world is a killer, but the ones that are, are very dangerous and cunning people indeed. They push on with no conscience whatsoever.

On another note: There is a juror who is speaking about it now, and she says that the only reason why she was acquitted was because of the evidence -- no one knows how Caylee died - it wasn't because of what they felt in their hearts. I don't think she is back peddling - one of the first things she said was what has been said in here - she's not guilty, but she's not innocent. I think the majority of people feel that way with very few feeling that she was actually innocent.

Makes me wonder if the defense team had their own doubts about her, which I am sure they did. They called her out as a liar right off the bat ... so how can they not? Which makes me think about this supposed book deal that is in the works ... not that I would ever consider buying it - but with four counts of lying to the police and authorities - the book should be considered fiction. Her side of the story means absolutely nothing - it would be all lies anyway I imagine.