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Old 09-20-2010, 04:02 PM   #281
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Organic and I are getting back into the swing of things after nearly a week off (we really need to work on our continuity) and are doing weight training and cardio. Pretty basic, but it's much better than doing nothing at all.
Yeah, I've had a wee issue with continuity these last 10 days or so.

But on another note, added another leg machine to my circuit today. Definetly working the added weight without problem, and upped my reps on the ball crunches. perverts I am going to try on some of my older pants too, because all the last ones I was up to can now be pulled down without even unbuttoning them. Which can have it's advantages....however not at work.


Keep up the good work everybody!

And Jet, get thee to a physician. Hope you feel better soon.

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Yeah, I've had a wee issue with continuity these last 10 days or so.

But on another note, added another leg machine to my circuit today. Definetly working the added weight without problem, and upped my reps on the ball crunches. perverts I am going to try on some of my older pants too, because all the last ones I was up to can now be pulled down without even unbuttoning them. Which can have it's advantages....however not at work.


Keep up the good work everybody!

And Jet, get thee to a physician. Hope you feel better soon.

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I found a new to me machine today!

I didn't use it but I did find it.

I was already on the elliptical and in the process of realizing that it's (the elliptical) the ONLY one of its kind in the gym and it's made for someone probably about 6 ft tall with a more, shall I say, orangutangal reach.

Read: for those that haven't met me, I have seriously short arms.

Anywho, I saw this lady on a machine that mimicked the movements of the old leg curls where you laid down on the bench on your stomach and slid your feet under the weights to lift in order to tighten the glutes and hams and such. Every place I've gone to in the past few years has said "this machine does the same thing, only safer" and it's bull-hockey. It may be safer, but it does NOT tighten like that machine did. I think that this new one just might. I'll try it next time.

My problem is that I work out better, harder, and longer when I'm on my own and now I come with my honey and sometimes Arwen. I love having them there and it's not like we all do the same thing, but with two to three of us carpooling, we have different time restrictions and, frankly, I tend to socialize more when I actually have someone to socialize with. Earth-shattering revelation, I'm sure.

So, I'm doing okay now but I'm not seeing the progress I'm used to seeing. I'm also not entirely sure I'm acclimating as fast as I'd like to too.

Without that steady progress, I find it much easier to say "Not today, honey." and "Can we just do half an hour this time?" instead of "Let's bust some balls and take some names! Hoorah!"

Notice how good I am being not to mention the whole pants fall down thing.

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I also agree, Jet. Have your injury checked out by a professional. You don't want to play around with your shoulder.
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I'm calling the doc's office tomorrow, theres something really wrong here, meantime, relax and watch the game on ice off and on tonight.
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I found a new to me machine today!

I didn't use it but I did find it.

I was already on the elliptical and in the process of realizing that it's (the elliptical) the ONLY one of its kind in the gym and it's made for someone probably about 6 ft tall with a more, shall I say, orangutangal reach.

Read: for those that haven't met me, I have seriously short arms.

Anywho, I saw this lady on a machine that mimicked the movements of the old leg curls where you laid down on the bench on your stomach and slid your feet under the weights to lift in order to tighten the glutes and hams and such. Every place I've gone to in the past few years has said "this machine does the same thing, only safer" and it's bull-hockey. It may be safer, but it does NOT tighten like that machine did. I think that this new one just might. I'll try it next time.

My problem is that I work out better, harder, and longer when I'm on my own and now I come with my honey and sometimes Arwen. I love having them there and it's not like we all do the same thing, but with two to three of us carpooling, we have different time restrictions and, frankly, I tend to socialize more when I actually have someone to socialize with. Earth-shattering revelation, I'm sure.

So, I'm doing okay now but I'm not seeing the progress I'm used to seeing. I'm also not entirely sure I'm acclimating as fast as I'd like to too.

Without that steady progress, I find it much easier to say "Not today, honey." and "Can we just do half an hour this time?" instead of "Let's bust some balls and take some names! Hoorah!"

Notice how good I am being not to mention the whole pants fall down thing.

:innocent me:


I also agree, Jet. Have your injury checked out by a professional. You don't want to play around with your shoulder.
OMG I am WAAAAAY too uncoordinated for an eliptical machine. I've tried and tried and half the time end up hurting my knees 'cause I can't make it run smooth.

Laying on the ground with your knees bent and doing pelvic thrusts helps the gluts and hammies. I look ridiculous, and I'm sure the guys at the gym are wanting to hurl, but it works so

And funny you mention about the workout buddies. J (The Boy, my son) was saying today that he needed to go to the gym more. I go when he's in school. I told him I would change my workout time and take him, but that I work out. I don't chit chat, and I work for 45min to an hour and that he would just have to deal with it. I said "I put my earbuds in and I work it." So I totally understand when there are others around. Not to mention he works the same machines I do, and he's 6'4" and well I'm not. So I would have to be changing the machines every time, which is not condusive to the aerobic circuit I like to do.


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I dinged this shoulder really good this time from doing upright rows with heavy weights. I'm mentioning this as a caution for anybody doing exercises with weights. I stretched and warmed up too. I'm really pissed about this because I've starting making gains with P90x. Now another delay.
*shakes head* You wouldn't believe how many excerises engages the shoulders. Almost all of them.

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Today was upper body and abs at the gym. Did a 20 minute warmup run on the treadmill,worked shoulders,arms,upper and mid-back,chest and abs,then a 20 minute cooldown run. It's a great stress reliever. After the 25 mile bike ride this coming Saturday and the mountain bike race in October,it looks like I'll be able to afford a couple of days a week in the pool for lap swimming after my next clinical which ends in mid-November. Now it's off to bed and trying to increase my sleep by an hour. Maybe it'll increase my brain power!
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it isn't my rotator cuff as i thought. its almost the entire shoulder. im typing with one hand, the other one is holding up ice.
Not a nurse but maybe can help.

I seem to remember once you mentioned you have a juicer.

First read foods- pro-inflammatory food to avoid while healing. Trust me, this is huge and you'd never thing it.


http://nutrition.about.com/od/dietsf...inflamfood.htm

Now try juicing celery and drink as much as you can. Some people hate it. I drink it everyday with carrot juice. I also often juice organic spinach. Eat a lot of pears.

There has been major changes in my joints and back since doing this. If I overwork myself or twist something I stay away from tomatoes, potatos, foods I know might make it worse and increase anti-inflammatory fruits and veggies.

Then see if you can find biofreeze, run hot water over it 10 min if you can, dry and then apply the biofreeze
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Dr. Perricone's List of pro-inflammatory foods.

Stay away from pro-inflammatory foods, which accelerate the aging process. A simple rule of thumb is to consider the following: If it contains flour, and/or sugar or other sweetener, it will be pro-inflammatory. Sugary, starchy foods are poor choices and will not only pack on excess pounds, they will make you look older than your years.

Bagels
Breads, rolls, baked goods
Candy
Cake
Cookies
Cereals (except old fashioned oatmeal)
Cornstarch
Corn bread, corn muffins
Corn syrup
Crackers
Croissants
Doughnuts
Egg rolls
Fast food
French Fries
Fruit juice—choose the fruit instead
Fried foods
Flour
Granola
Hard cheese (except for feta and grating cheeses, such as Romano and Parmesan)
Honey
Hot dogs
Ice cream, frozen yogurt, Italian ices
Jams, jellies and preserves
Margarine
Molasses
Muffins
Noodles
Pancakes
Pastry
Pie
Pita bread
Pizza
Pasta
Popcorn
Potatoes
Pudding
Relish
Rice
Sherbet
Shortening
Snack foods, including: potato chips, pretzels, corn chips, rice and corn cakes, etc.
Soda
Sugar
Tacos
Tortillas
Waffles

Fortunately I don't eat anything on the list except rice (brown)

Sachita, I don't own a juicer and I don't care for pears. Thanks for the information though. My shoulder is a little better today having iced it off and on last night. Now it feels like a "kink." I can't see a doc until; the 5th, the medical clinic doesn't take my insurance. So, I'm going to have to tough this out.

I did upright rows and corkscrew curls. I should have backed off the weight and didn't. But at the time, It didn't feel like anything was wrong. Let this be a lesson.
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Dr. Perricone's List of pro-inflammatory foods.

Stay away from pro-inflammatory foods, which accelerate the aging process. A simple rule of thumb is to consider the following: If it contains flour, and/or sugar or other sweetener, it will be pro-inflammatory. Sugary, starchy foods are poor choices and will not only pack on excess pounds, they will make you look older than your years.

Bagels
Breads, rolls, baked goods
Candy
Cake
Cookies
Cereals (except old fashioned oatmeal)
Cornstarch
Corn bread, corn muffins
Corn syrup
Crackers
Croissants
Doughnuts
Egg rolls
Fast food
French Fries
Fruit juice—choose the fruit instead
Fried foods
Flour
Granola
Hard cheese (except for feta and grating cheeses, such as Romano and Parmesan)
Honey
Hot dogs
Ice cream, frozen yogurt, Italian ices
Jams, jellies and preserves
Margarine
Molasses
Muffins
Noodles
Pancakes
Pastry
Pie
Pita bread
Pizza
Pasta
Popcorn
Potatoes
Pudding
Relish
Rice
Sherbet
Shortening
Snack foods, including: potato chips, pretzels, corn chips, rice and corn cakes, etc.
Soda
Sugar
Tacos
Tortillas
Waffles

Fortunately I don't eat anything on the list except rice (brown)

Sachita, I don't own a juicer and I don't care for pears. Thanks for the information though. My shoulder is a little better today having iced it off and on last night. Now it feels like a "kink." I can't see a doc until; the 5th, the medical clinic doesn't take my insurance. So, I'm going to have to tough this out.

I did upright rows and corkscrew curls. I should have backed off the weight and didn't. But at the time, It didn't feel like anything was wrong. Let this be a lesson.
omg make a list of what we should eat
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Why is that butch squatting in the curl rack eating a Dove bar?
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Does Muscle Weigh More Than Fat?

A pound of muscle, a pound of fat: What's the difference?
By Martica Heaner, M.A., M.Ed., for MSN Health & Fitness


Q. Does muscle really weigh more than fat? I am a trainer and am frequently asked this question by members of my gym. I have heard conflicting reports and can’t seem to find the right answer.

A. No, muscle does not weigh more than fat. A pound of muscle weighs exactly the same as a pound of fat—they both weigh one pound!

This commonly cited gym cliché is somewhat misunderstood and misused. The rationale that muscle weighs more than fat is often cited as an explanation for why a person might find that they aren’t losing weight, or are gaining weight, when they kick off an exercise regimen. The idea seems to be that if you are exercising—and theoretically losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time—the effects cancel each other out. So, in theory, you won’t see desired weight loss as measured by pounds on the scale, even though you may be improving how you look.

You certainly can improve your appearance with exercise without always seeing a change in your body weight—by becoming firmer, more sculpted and sometimes leaner. But that doesn’t mean that you are gaining massive amounts of muscle, or losing lots of fat.

Muscle Does Not Turn To Fat

Some people believe that if they start working out they turn their fat into muscle or that, if they stop working out, their muscle will turn into fat. Neither is true; each tissue is distinctly different. You can gain muscle or lose weight, and you can gain or lose more body fat, but they don’t convert into each other. Both gaining and losing muscle and/or fat can both affect your body weight on the scale, depending upon the magnitude of the body fat or body muscle increase or decrease.

To gain significant amounts of muscle, you not only have to do the type of exercise that stimulates muscle growth—progressive and intense resistance training—you also have to eat more calories than normal to fuel the process. Most people who exercise, especially women, do not perform resistance training at this level, nor do they eat more to try to build muscle. Even if they did, it could take many months to increase muscle mass by just a few pounds.

Body Fat Tests

Some people get their body fat tested at the gym, either by using skin calipers or a portable, step-on, body-fat scale. These measurements may show shifts in muscle-to-fat ratios, making it appear that a person has gained pounds of muscle and lost pounds worth of fat, whether or not the normal body-weight scale registers any big changes. Whether these potentially large changes in fat and muscle mass are accurate is up for debate.

On the body-fat scale, for example, you can get a dramatically different estimate of these figures from the same “weigh-in” based on whether you are input as a “normal” person or an “athlete.” So at the exact same moment a scale may show that you are at 18 percent body fat or at 27 percent body fat, for example. This large discrepancy is because the formulas used in these types of machines to calculate your measurements are based on estimates.

And there’s always a “standard deviation” in these estimated readings from calipers and body-fat scales. In other words, your result may not be as specific as you think it is, it falls within a range.

Why Doesn’t Exercise Always Affect Body Weight?

If someone is working out and not losing weight, or not losing as much as they want—or if they’re actually gaining weight—the first place to look is the type and amount of exercise.

Weight loss boils down to burning more calories than you normally use in a day. Cardio exercise burns more calories than muscle-toning or the average resistance-training workout. So dialing down the stretching and core work to just once or twice a week, and replacing it with more cardio should produce more weight loss. And the more minutes the better when it comes to weight loss: An hour to 90 minutes of aerobic activity per day on most days of the week will affect body weight.

Some people get overly obsessed about numbers on the scale. If you are happy with the way you look and feel, and you feel like you are improving your fitness and strength, then continue doing what you are doing. Exercise works, and every minute of movement helps your health in some way. Weight loss through working out may be slower than you want, but it’s likely to be longer term solution and a healthier way to trim down and shape up, or at the very least to stave off weight gain over the years.

More from Martica on MSN Health & Fitness.

Do you have a fitness or weight-loss question for Martica? Send e-mail to experts@microsoft.com. Please include Ask Martica in the subject line. Each of our experts responds to one question each week and the responses are posted on Mondays on MSN Health. We regret that we cannot provide a personalized response to every submission.


Martica Heaner, Ph.D., M.A., M.Ed., is a Manhattan-based exercise physiologist and nutritionist, and an award-winning fitness instructor and health writer. She has a Ph.D. in behavioral nutrition and physical activity from Columbia University, and is also a NASM-certified personal trainer. She has written hundreds of articles for publications such as Self , Health , Prevention , The New York Times and others. Martica is the author of eight books, including her latest, Cross-Training for Dummies.
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I started working out again after renewing my membership at the gym last week. I will be lifting weight with the lower body on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. I do a mile warm up on the elliptical. On Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays is my elliptical/treadmill days. I will soon be adding swimming to my workout regime (well actually kicking with fins and kick board). I am rather limited as to what I can do right now with recovering from shoulder surgery. I believe Shad and I came up with an idea that will allow me to get into the pool and start kicking, since I am unable to stretch the left arm out to hold a kick board.
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I started working out again after renewing my membership at the gym last week. I will be lifting weight with the lower body on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. I do a mile warm up on the elliptical. On Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Thursdays is my elliptical/treadmill days. I will soon be adding swimming to my workout regime (well actually kicking with fins and kick board). I am rather limited as to what I can do right now with recovering from shoulder surgery. I believe Shad and I came up with an idea that will allow me to get into the pool and start kicking, since I am unable to stretch the left arm out to hold a kick board.
Good job man. See it helps to have a future PTA as a roomie. He'll be figuring out all kinds of torture to put you through that won't actually hurt your shoulder. LOL
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Good job man. See it helps to have a future PTA as a roomie. He'll be figuring out all kinds of torture to put you through that won't actually hurt your shoulder. LOL
LOL...hy has already done the torture thing by getting my hooked on cycling. At first I was like, You want to do what? Climb what? hahaha

Last night, we were discussing the swimming thing. We came up with the idea of getting a ball (like a dodge ball or kick ball) and and holding it with my left hand against my abdomen and of course hold the kick board with the right hand. The ball will hopefully balance me while kicking. Hy also thinks the ball will help work the core since you will be trying to balance.
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Good job man. See it helps to have a future PTA as a roomie. He'll be figuring out all kinds of torture to put you through that won't actually hurt your shoulder. LOL
Y'all know I try to help a brother any way I CAN!! But for some reason Snack refused to let me practice range of motion or manual muscle testing on his shoulder two days post-op! I live and breathe to addict folks to the drug of cycling and spread the word of nirvana on two wheels!
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Y'all know I try to help a brother any way I CAN!! But for some reason Snack refused to let me practice range of motion or manual muscle testing on his shoulder two days post-op! I live and breathe to addict folks to the drug of cycling and spread the word of nirvana on two wheels!
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my nutrionist tested my body composition with electrodes. i found out my scale shows 2% more than the electrodes. Valuable info
clarification per request via rep. message: valuable info because i know i can believe my scale if i just always subtract 2%...and because i am in recovery from anorexia and my nutritionist has convinced me to ignore the pounds and concentrate on body composition- if i can keep my fat percentage below 25% i am "perfect" no matter how much i weigh
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