Olivia Cruisers? Carribean Sun Cruise October 30th - Page 2

lipstixgal · 09-06-2010, 01:40 PM

After reading what I just read hell no I wouldn't go on a Olivia cruise beside they are too expensive and over rated!!

tiggs · 09-06-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Strappie

And why was it that so many people didn't discuss this? What the hell were you all afraid of.. getting booted? Ha.. That was the least of my worries. I for one am not the type to sit by and watch my friends be told they can or can not do something.

Well quite frankly and as you are well aware my Daddy was/is ummmm active in the thread on the other site. So really I felt no need to particepate when Hy was already doing such a wonderful job.

Corkey · 09-06-2010, 02:31 PM

Another OH Hell NO!
Even if we could go we wouldn't, now a cruse to Alaska....yep that we'd do, but not on that line.

Billy · 09-06-2010, 02:40 PM

Well then , I will take My boa and Tiara and party else where !

OHHHHH and Dolls shoes , and My fucking monkey !

Strappie · 09-06-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy

Well then , I will take My boa and Tiara and party else where !

OHHHHH and Dolls shoes , and My fucking monkey !

Billy ... God I love you!!! haha You are so pretty!

MysticOceansFL · 09-06-2010, 03:03 PM

Yeah I would still book with them just because I don't follow a group of people of what they did or don't do.

Daywalker · 09-06-2010, 03:09 PM

I have a tough time deciding what the intentions are of Olivia when on
one hand they are raw and uncensored about how folks who are not strictly
identifying as Lesbian may be given the atmosphere of 'unwelcome' and on
another hand ~ they are willing to book an event and state that all will be
made to feel welcome. It's a monetary move from them, to me...and not one
from their hearts, and certainly it seems 'strained' for them to bend their rules
to do so. Our Community, to me...encompasses ALL of us who represent
the rainbow. So yes, it is their intentions that I find hard to narrow
in on...and to me, that is important.

Cyclopea · 09-06-2010, 03:15 PM

Mountain Star I will not be able to go on the Lesbian cruise this October for various reasons unfortunately. I would love to go in future. As a lesbian I enjoy lesbian events and gatherings.
Since this thread is about a lesbian gathering perhaps it could be moved to the "Lesbian Zone" so wimmin can discuss the cruise without wading through pages of lesbophobia.

Gayla · 09-06-2010, 03:16 PM

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Soft*Silver · 09-06-2010, 03:22 PM

I suggest we plan a cruise on our own...

I imagined the Olivia cruise to be somewhat akin to an episode of the L word...and since I cannot relate to the lesbians in that series, it did not interest me.

I think on our own cruise, we utube it and set the world straight what an INCLUSIVE cruise would be like.

and at the end,in one last utube, I say we all moon the dash site with dashes printed on our asses...

The_Lady_Snow · 09-06-2010, 03:25 PM

Ohhhhhhhhh Olivia...

I would have to say not going anytime in this lifetime, as long as their trans policies stand.

Have fun though Mountain Star I hear cruises are fun!

It was nice to come in here and not have a finger wagged at chu and belittled over opinions.

Daywalker · 09-06-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by softness

I suggest we plan a cruise on our own...

I imagined the Olivia cruise to be somewhat akin to an episode of the L word...and since I cannot relate to the lesbians in that series, it did not interest me.

I think on our own cruise, we utube it and set the world straight what an INCLUSIVE cruise would be like.

and at the end,in one last utube, I say we all moon the dash site with dashes printed on our asses...

So is this a stab at the dash site,
or Olivia Cruises for their policies?

SuperFemme · 09-06-2010, 03:30 PM

This is me giving a BIG eyeroll.

Olivia Cruises not making space for trans folks is more along the lines of transphobia, not "lesbophobia".

Again, how am I to couch my displeasure for that as a lesbian who is married to a trans person?

It breaks my heart that I am made to feel silenced and hush hush if I have anything that is other than positive to say about anything lesbian related. I'm a lesbian.

Trust me, I've got nothing against myself, and simply have stated the facts regarding the Olivia Cruises policy.

If the OP wanted only YES answers, I didn't read it that way.

Words · 09-06-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyclopea

Mountain Star I will not be able to go on the Lesbian cruise this October for various reasons unfortunately. I would love to go in future. As a lesbian I enjoy lesbian events and gatherings.
Since this thread is about a lesbian gathering perhaps it could be moved to the "Lesbian Zone" so wimmin can discuss the cruise without wading through pages of lesbophobia.

So when 'wimmin' condemn the absence of inclusiveness, it's lesbophobia?

Really?

Medusa · 09-06-2010, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclopea

Mountain Star I will not be able to go on the Lesbian cruise this October for various reasons unfortunately. I would love to go in future. As a lesbian I enjoy lesbian events and gatherings.
Since this thread is about a lesbian gathering perhaps it could be moved to the "Lesbian Zone" so wimmin can discuss the cruise without wading through pages of lesbophobia.

Cyclopea -

This will be your one and only warning. If you have only come back to participate in an incendiary manner, "rally the troops", or shit-stir, I highly suggest you rethink your interactions.

The Olivia Cruise topic is not "owned" by the Lesbian community, and we will not start segregating this site into areas where "wimmin's" topics are policed/fenced/separated into a space where only people of "approved" identities are allowed to discuss them.

Thanks,
Medusa
(Admin voice)

Soft*Silver · 09-06-2010, 03:42 PM

actually not a stab at all, DayWalker, but a celebration. Mooning is a cute way of having fun without being offensive...

I personally, however, do not like Olivia cruises nor the Dash site, but that was not my intent...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daywalker

So is this a stab at the dash site,
or Olivia Cruises for their policies?

Cyclopea · 09-06-2010, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa

Cyclopea -

This will be your one and only warning. If you have only come back to participate in an incendiary manner, "rally the troops", or shit-stir, I highly suggest you rethink your interactions.

The Olivia Cruise topic is not "owned" by the Lesbian community, and we will not start segregating this site into areas where "wimmin's" topics are policed/fenced/separated into a space where only people of "approved" identities are allowed to discuss them.

Thanks,
Medusa
(Admin voice)

I certainly did not intend to participate in an incendiary manner "rally the troops" or shit-stir. I'm not entirely sure what you mean. I suggested that posting about a lesbian event in the lesbian zone might decrease the dozens of "oh hell no I'm not going- I'm not a lesbian" posts, which yes, feel phobic to me. I will PM you on the matter and hopefully make myself clearer. I'm not sure why my suggestion warrants such seemingly harsh moderation but I would like to understand so I can avoid being singled out in such a manner in future. Thank you for your patience.

The_Lady_Snow · 09-06-2010, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclopea

I certainly did not intend to participate in an incendiary manner "rally the troops" or shit-stir. I'm not entirely sure what you mean. I suggested that posting about a lesbian event in the lesbian zone might decrease the dozens of "oh hell no I'm not going- I'm not a lesbian" posts, which yes, feel phobic to me. I will PM you on the matter and hopefully make myself clearer. I'm not sure why my suggestion warrants such seemingly harsh moderation but I would like to understand so I can avoid being singled out in such a manner in future. Thank you for your patience.

I would like to clarify that nowhere in my post did I come off with an intent to be anti lesbian.

Matter of fact lesbian was not even in my post.

So since you are making sweeping generalizations, I would like to say that I would not attend Olivia Cruises NOT because they cater to lesbians, but because I could not comfortably go with the person I am with, reason being..

They are not trans friendly.

Cyclopea · 09-06-2010, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

I would like to clarify that nowhere in my post did I come off with an intent to be anti lesbian.

Matter of fact lesbian was not even in my post.

So since you are making sweeping generalizations, I would like to say that I would not attend Olivia Cruises NOT because they cater to lesbians, but because I could not comfortably go with the person I am with, reason being..

They are not trans friendly.

I have PMed Medusa and feel after the strong warning given above I must be silent until it is all sorted out. I will get back to discuss with you Snow! I didn't want you to think I'm ignoring you...

Strappie · 09-06-2010, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclopea

I certainly did not intend to participate in an incendiary manner "rally the troops" or shit-stir. I'm not entirely sure what you mean. I suggested that posting about a lesbian event in the lesbian zone might decrease the dozens of "oh hell no I'm not going- I'm not a lesbian" posts, which yes, feel phobic to me. I will PM you on the matter and hopefully make myself clearer. I'm not sure why my suggestion warrants such seemingly harsh moderation but I would like to understand so I can avoid being singled out in such a manner in future. Thank you for your patience.

Cy... I beg your pardon..

I am BUTCH and I am a LESBIAN and I am a WOMAN... I am not phobic to my fellow friends of any gender. We are all human...

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Cyclopea Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Lesbian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Exit Zero Posts: 1,267 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,694 Thanked 1,617 Times in 633 Posts Rep Power: 226199	Mountain Star I will not be able to go on the Lesbian cruise this October for various reasons unfortunately. I would love to go in future. As a lesbian I enjoy lesbian events and gatherings. Since this thread is about a lesbian gathering perhaps it could be moved to the "Lesbian Zone" so wimmin can discuss the cruise without wading through pages of lesbophobia. __________________ http://forum.axishistory.com/images/...arious/eye.jpg

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09-06-2010, 03:30 PM	#33
SuperFemme Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Permanently Banned 10/24/2010 Preferred Pronoun?: She. Relationship Status: Married (one of 18,000) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atascadero, CA Posts: 4,933 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,309 Thanked 7,109 Times in 2,327 Posts Rep Power: 0	This is me giving a BIG eyeroll. Olivia Cruises not making space for trans folks is more along the lines of transphobia, not "lesbophobia". Again, how am I to couch my displeasure for that as a lesbian* who is married to a trans person?* It breaks my heart that I am made to feel silenced and hush hush if I have anything that is other than positive to say about anything lesbian related. I'm a lesbian. Trust me, I've got nothing against myself, and simply have stated the facts regarding the Olivia Cruises policy. If the OP wanted only YES answers, I didn't read it that way.