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Using currency isn't the same as celebrating. Good grief, one is a must no matter the other is a friggen choice.
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If you are this upset about Columbus Day being a recognized federal holiday start a petition, I'll be glad to sign it.
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Not a problem Corkey!
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Again this thread is to celebrate Indigenous People. Thoughts on this subject are more than welcome.
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First, where did this come from, and secondly it contains racial speech that is at best derogatory and at worst racist.
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Letter to my Senator,
Dear Senator Inhofe, I am writing to ask why we celebrate "Columbus Day" as a Federal Holiday? There is overwhelming information that provides us a history of violence against the "Native Americans". I ask you as my representative to please look into this and let me know why my tax dollars are used to provide you and all other Federal employees a payed day off. Thank You,
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I give up!
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The letter to your senator, wonderful great, did you read the link you posted? The uplifting of one portion of society at the expense of another is not what this is about. It is about recognizing that an atrocity has happened, and that the federal government yearly places the killer from Spain as someone to be admired. He was a criminal, one who perpetrated genocide, not just on Native populations in the western continent but to the Native populations of the Caribbean Islands.
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It's very apparent that you don't like me or what I bring to this conversation. So I am going to stop away. Good luck!
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It does not seem like its personal Okie.
The link you posted while asking for the holiday to be changed, does use a lot of racist language. If you would like examples PM me and I can send you some later. There was a time in my life when I was not aware that many of the terms in that article are racist. Maybe read some of the racism threads on this website and watch some Tim Wise on YouTube and start learning what is acceptable. It is a learning process.
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A People's History by Howard Zinn
One passage from Zinn's great work available online at
http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinncol1.html "In the villages of the Iroquois, land was owned in common and worked in common. Hunting was done together, and the catch was divided among the members of the village. Houses were considered common property and were shared by several families. The concept of private ownership of land and homes was foreign to the Iroquois. A French Jesuit priest who encountered them in the 1650s wrote: 'No poorhouses are needed among them, because they are neither mendicants nor paupers.. . . Their kindness, humanity and courtesy not only makes them liberal with what they have, but causes them to possess hardly anything except in common. Women were important and respected in Iroquois society. Families were matrilineal. That is, the family line went down through the female members, whose husbands joined the family, while sons who married then joined their wives' families. Each extended family lived in a 'long house.' When a woman wanted a divorce, she set her husband's things outside the door." |
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An excellent resource for people to read about the life of The People before the killer from Spain is a book called "1491" subtitled The revelations of the Americas before Columbus.
It is an archeological and sociological treatise on the populations of the Americas.
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You know what I've been going through this this year, and you know I am laughing out loud now :-) Yes, the Iroquis understood that a physical gesture was called for in certain times. Hard to mistake the message of all your stuff sitting outside the door!
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Nothing says I'm done more than a bear picking through your stuff LOL
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