2012 US General Election Discussions: Start to Finish

[UofMfan]

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[Novelafemme]

Originally Posted by ruffryder

the key states to win :

PA and OH

I thought it was Florida and Ohio?

[Corkey]

It is Fl and OH, PA is not in play, Robme just want to pull a fake out. And PA is the only market not yet flooded with ads. We're kinda sick of his pandering.

[Novelafemme]

Originally Posted by Corkey

It is Fl and OH, PA is not in play, Robme just want to pull a fake out. And PA is the only market not yet flooded with ads. We're kinda sick of his pandering.

Thanks Corkey! That caught my eye because I had just read about FL and OH this morning. Thought perhaps I missed something.

[BullDog]

The first thing I will watch for is Virginia. Polls close at 7 pm EST. If Obama wins VA he can win without either OH or FL. Obama seems to have a small lead in the polls in VA. If he won VA, he would also need Wisconsin, Nevada and Iowa or NH- very doable. That is of course assuming he still gets PA, MI and MN and other expected blue states which shouldn't be a problem.

I think Obama will win OH. I hope he wins FL as a victory for democracy, but he can win without it. Salute to all the voters waiting in long lines to vote and standing up against voter suppression efforts in FL, Ohio and elsewhere.

Obama can still definitely win without VA, but if he does it could avoid everything hinging on Ohio and FL where if it is very close it will get ugly with all the Republican shenanigans, counting of provisional ballots, and potential recounts and lawsuits. Then again there is a good chance Obama will win a clear if still close margin in Ohio and avoid all that.

I do think Obama is going to win but I'm still a nervous wreck!

[princessbelle]

Originally Posted by BullDog

The first thing I will watch for is Virginia. Polls close at 7 pm EST. If Obama wins VA he can win without either OH or FL. Obama seems to have a small lead in the polls in VA. If he won VA, he would also need Wisconsin, Nevada and Iowa or NH- very doable. That is of course assuming he still gets PA, MI and MN and other expected blue states which shouldn't be a problem.

I think Obama will win OH. I hope he wins FL as a victory for democracy, but he can win without it. Salute to all the voters waiting in long lines to vote and standing up against voter suppression efforts in FL, Ohio and elsewhere.

Obama can still definitely win without VA, but if he does it could avoid everything hinging on Ohio and FL where if it is very close it will get ugly with all the Republican shenanigans, counting of provisional ballots, and potential recounts and lawsuits. Then again there is a good chance Obama will win a clear if still close margin in Ohio and avoid all that.

I do think Obama is going to win but I'm still a nervous wreck!

Which chart did you get this from? The one on the fridge? The one taped up in the hall? The ones in the office?

I know this election is important. More important i think for me because this is the first one i know every single way it can possibly go, thanks to the wallpaper of charts, red and blue state drawings, population sizes and the bright purple electoral votes, the times the polls close in EVERY state...hung everywhere.

But. I will be glad when President Obama kicks A, it will be good to get on with his plan for our bright future as women and as a country....

AND i can have my markers back.

[Kätzchen]

Well, I just got back from my morning of errands:
first on the list was drop the ballot off downtown.

And let me tell you, things were all too quiet downtown.

I have to say, Bully, when I read your post just now about Romney, I can't help but think of the latest headline news were Apple paid less than 2% in taxes on their international accts. I'm all for taking down poorly written law pertaining to corporate law and tax law. But I take heart that faceless corporations are not really faceless. I can think of two perpetrators who sit side by side in my mind:

The Steve Jobs empire and the so-called empire of Romney.

Luke Skywalker, where are you???

What we need is the Empire of the People to strike back and send a very large, impossible to ignore, message that white-collar crime of this nature will not be tolerated any more. Period.

[princessbelle]

Speaking of the President...

Has anyone noticed how much weight he's lost lately? I can't imagine how much stress he is under, not to mention the traveling. But, i iz a little worried.

Maybe after the election, we can have he and Mechelle over for some country cooking.

I would definitely have to dig out my "good" dishes.

[macele]

Originally Posted by princessbelle

Which chart did you get this from? The one on the fridge? The one taped up in the hall? The ones in the office?

I know this election is important. More important i think for me because this is the first one i know every single way it can possibly go, thanks to the wallpaper of charts, red and blue state drawings, population sizes and the bright purple electoral votes, the times the polls close in EVERY state...hung everywhere.

But. I will be glad when President Obama kicks A, it will be good to get on with his plan for our bright future as women and as a country....

AND i can have my markers back.

i would keep her markers, ... find her construction paper (she knows she has got some.) and glitter (she knows she has got some.), ... and tell her i had to make victory posters and confetti!

[macele]

speaking of michelle. my niece said that she voted for obama at school because of his wife. she's all over nickelodeon.

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by BullDog

The first thing I will watch for is Virginia. Polls close at 7 pm EST. If Obama wins VA he can win without either OH or FL. Obama seems to have a small lead in the polls in VA. If he won VA, he would also need Wisconsin, Nevada and Iowa or NH- very doable. That is of course assuming he still gets PA, MI and MN and other expected blue states which shouldn't be a problem.

I think Obama will win OH. I hope he wins FL as a victory for democracy, but he can win without it. Salute to all the voters waiting in long lines to vote and standing up against voter suppression efforts in FL, Ohio and elsewhere.

Obama can still definitely win without VA, but if he does it could avoid everything hinging on Ohio and FL where if it is very close it will get ugly with all the Republican shenanigans, counting of provisional ballots, and potential recounts and lawsuits. Then again there is a good chance Obama will win a clear if still close margin in Ohio and avoid all that.

I do think Obama is going to win but I'm still a nervous wreck!

Makes note to tune in to channel Bulldog tomorrow for up to date info on the ins and outs of the election returns. Is there an app to get text updates?

[Soon]

[DMW]

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Tell Ohio's Secretary of State: Count every vote

With razor thin margins predicted in Ohio, the state's Republican Secretary of State took steps this weekend to modify vote counting procedures in a way that could invalidate thousands of provisional ballots.1

Previously, it was the responsibility of trained election workers to record identification information presented by voters who submit provisional ballots. But now Secretary of State John Husted has put that burden on voters to record this information (which can often be confusing to identify) on their provisional ballots -- paving the way for a significant number of ballots to be thrown out due to recording errors even though the voter presented a valid ID that was accepted by the pollworker.

Tell Ohio's Secretary of State: Count every vote -- rescind your administrative orders aimed at suppressing the vote in Ohio.

Husted, a Republican, has already been working to suppress the vote in his state. Many workers who have trouble getting to the polls during regular business hours on a Tuesday traditionally favor weekend early voting. Husted tried to end weekend early voting in Ohio by reducing the state's five weekends of early voting to zero. In response, the courts ordered him to maintain access to one weekend of early voting -- the weekend before the election -- open to Ohio voters, though allowing him to cancel the previous four weekends of access. As a result, voters at many early vote locations had to wait outside in the cold, in lines stretching outside the buildings and around city blocks.

And now, as the election in Ohio is reportedly a dead heat, and it's clear the state's 18 electoral votes could very well decide the presidency, Husted is taking additional steps to suppress the votes of Ohio citizens.

Republicans have a long tradition of partisan Secretaries of State like Ohio's Ken Blackwell and Florida's Katherine Harris who cared more about delivering their state's elections to Republicans than ensuring their state's citizens could cast a ballot that counts.

We cannot let John Husted join their ranks and use his position as the chief of elections in Ohio to swing his state's electoral votes to Mitt Romney.

Tell Ohio's Secretary of State: Stop the shenanigans and count every vote.

1. Andrew Cohen, "Ohio's Provisional Ballot Order: The Biggest Legal Story of the Weekend," The Atlantic, November 4, 2012.

[Medusa]

This voter intimidation shit they are pulling in Florida is about to make me bust a fucking vein.

[Martina]

If I weren't so dog tired from a long hard day edgeekating the next generation, I would be losing my fucking mind.

Bully, do you tweet?

[princessbelle]

Originally Posted by Martina

If I weren't so dog tired from a long hard day edgeekating the next generation, I would be losing my fucking mind.

Bully, do you tweet?

Sorry Martina but Rachel is on. The human population, me, Bella, BFP and world hunger does not exist from 9-10pm eastern time in our house.

I will tell you this though...she has a flip phone *snickers. If she is gonna be so freaking dogmatic about all of this, with all of this secret (lol) information, she does need to have means to share.

Tomorrow is a big day.

Did i mention, after i vote of course, i'm going shopping? ALlllllllllllllll day!!!!!

[Martina]

Great Rachel quote: "Clean socks are a courtesy to everyone."

lol and her encouraging us to take fruit rollups and a space blanket to the polls. lol. I am so chuckling.

Second great quote: "CARBS! . . . pasta, people, pasta!"

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by Martina

Great Rachel quote: "Clean socks are a courtesy to everyone."

lol and her encouraging us to take fruit rollups and a space blanket to the polls. lol. I am so chuckling.

Second great quote: "CARBS! . . . pasta, people, pasta!"

Don't forget the chair!!

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by Martina

If I weren't so dog tired from a long hard day edgeekating the next generation, I would be losing my fucking mind.

Bully, do you tweet?

I had a Twitter account set up but haven't used it. Sounds fun! I am JulesWright1 at Twitter.

Based on Rachel's recommendation we are having pasta for dinner tomorrow night.

[princessbelle]

Originally Posted by BullDog

I had a Twitter account set up but haven't used it. Sounds fun! I am JulesWright1 at Twitter.

Based on Rachel's recommendation we are having pasta for dinner tomorrow night.

You have a twitter account? I'm impressed. May have even swooned a little there....

AND...

Yes we will have sketti tomorrow night, cause, well you know, that's what Rachel says to do.

For those of you facing long lines at the polls tomorrow and are taking chairs. Don't forget if you get real frustrated or loney and bored, you can take the lead from Clint and talk to it. I'm sure it will help pass the time.