Teacher Beats Student

[Kobi]

Ok maybe I am just jaded but I learned a long time ago not to jump to conclusions until you know the facts.

Regardless of what was supposedly seen on this video, it is not a clear picture. And some things just dont fit the reported "brutal and savage beating". For example, the kid did seem to be smiling at times, he was not cowering as I would expect a threatened kid to do, his defensive posturing was virtually non existent, some of his moves were suspicious i.e. grabbing the teachers leg with his foot.....I would expect a scared kid to be kicking up a storm.

In addition, the laughing and talking in the background is odd. I would expect scared kids at this age to be screaming and yelling. And I expect other adults to be yelling even if they did not intervene.

And, I expect that teacher could have made mince meat out of that kid, if that was her intention.

Her behavior, whatever the reason for it, is reprehensible but I refuse to rush to judgement until all the facts are known.

Thank you June for introducing doubt here. OMG I agree with June. Who would have thunk that was possible.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by Kobi

Ok maybe I am just jaded but I learned a long time ago not to jump to conclusions until you know the facts.

Regardless of what was supposedly seen on this video, it is not a clear picture. And some things just dont fit the reported "brutal and savage beating". For example, the kid did seem to be smiling at times, he was not cowering as I would expect a threatened kid to do, his defensive posturing was virtually non existent, some of his moves were suspicious i.e. grabbing the teachers leg with his foot.....I would expect a scared kid to be kicking up a storm.

In addition, the laughing and talking in the background is odd. I would expect scared kids at this age to be screaming and yelling. And I expect other adults to be yelling even if they did not intervene.

And, I expect that teacher could have made mince meat out of that kid, if that was her intention.

Her behavior, whatever the reason for it, is reprehensible but I refuse to rush to judgement until all the facts are known.

Thank you June for introducing doubt here. OMG I agree with June. Who would have thunk that was possible.

Um, there are articles, and a video how much more proof does this child need?

I bet if someone had kicked a dog, no one would be brushing it off, wow, our kids are not as valued?

really? he is a kid... You don't touch someone else's child like this, hell you just do not drop kick a kid or bitch slap him cause you are mad..

[Dean Thoreau]

actually no matter what usa state this may be in...the states that still do permit corporal punishment have a well defined definition...
this is abuse not corporal punishment.....
this is a teacher who need to find a new career.....
teachers a wise to never touch a student....and never ever be alone in a room with a student...for any reason....u need to talk to a student privately you go out in the hallway....
a teacher doing this no matter what kind of school is not a teacher....even correctional institutions prohibit this type of aggression by guards...

this makes me sick...and may that child receive 100 million dollar lawsuit settlement....no child has ever ever ever done anything to warrant this type of response.

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Um, there are articled, and a video how much more proof does this child need?

I bet if someone had kicked a dog, no one would be brushing it off, wow, our kids are not as valued?

really? he is a kid... You don't touch someone else's child like this, hell you just do not drop kick a kid or bitch slap him cause you are mad..

Right? I cannot believe that a person can watch a child being beaten by a teacher and somehow blame the child.

There. Is. No. Excuse.

[blush]

Originally Posted by always2late

I have already posted my thoughts on the video shown in the thread, however, I thought this an opportune time to bring up another subject that has been troubling me. The use of restraints/seclusion and a disciplinary and/or control tactic in our schools. I was made aware of this recently and upon further reading found that it is practiced primarily against developmentally disabled students. As the parent of a child with a disability, I find this beyond disturbing.

I am a nurse, and in order to use restraints on a patient...even if that patient is trying to harm themselves....there are strict guidelines we must follow. We also are monitored by state and federal agencies that require an inordinate amount of paperwork and documentation of behavior to justify said restraints. It boggles my mind that a teacher, or staff member of a school can use restraints at their own discretion...and that there is NO monitoring agency. I am including a link below and would like to know others' thoughts on this.

http://www.eagleforum.org/educate/20...-children.html

In Texas, to perform those restraints you're referring to a teacher MUST have a specific training. We also have extensive parental permission that explains exactly what the restraints are, when they are used, and what we can and cannot do. It is not applied to every student at our discretion. It is for certain students who are a danger to themselves or to other students. Imagine the lawsuits if we were allowed to do this on a whim.

I have seen children as young as kinder throw chairs and large bricks at other students/teachers. We are responsible for every child in a classroom.

As a parent, I would be horrified if a student was allowed to throw chairs etc...at MY child and the teacher did nothing.

I am not referring to/condoning ANYTHING the adult did in this video or the seclusion or other obvious abuses the article listed. I'm just explaining what I know about our system and why restraining a student in a humane way is appropriate in certain situations.