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not funny in any way | 67 | 67.68% | |
funny--lighten up! | 16 | 16.16% | |
mixed feelings--kinda funny but offensive (etc.) | 16 | 16.16% | |
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08-02-2010, 07:04 PM | #101 | |
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Lesbian is my identity as it is for many members here. And the admin has now included anti-lesbian/lesbian-phobic rhetoric in the Planet's TOS along with transphobia, sexism, sizeism, homophobia, racism, etc. I agree that there are many blatantly offensive, crude, deceitful, lying, pornographic videos on the internet that are quite offensive. However, there are members here that find this video offensive from a lesbian-phobic stance. I wouldn't care for a clip that is offensive to any of the identities represented here. I feel like your comment is minimizing (or just plain disregarding other identities) the effect that the clip can or does have on those of us who do identify as lesbian and wanted to make our reasons clear. |
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There is nothing appealing about taking advantage of someone who is puking and intoxicated. Blech!
Further, now I'm depressed because I'm 42 and "could" be a Cougar??? |
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Just because I am not a lesbian doesn't diminish how distasteful and gross that clip is. I have every right to my opinion as a Human.
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Right on. I'm glad the logic of not being able to be offended unless one is a member of the targeted group didn't apply to Lincoln and slavery and Johnson and civil rights. |
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Now, anyone who thinks that a falling over intoxicated woman or man, with or without experience, is going to be capable of doing that with any actual "fun" results.. raise your hand... :0 Seriously, yes blech and yes stupid..But yes satire... very badly done satire..... Last edited by MsMerrick; 08-03-2010 at 08:34 AM. |
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Seriously, though, I just don't find depictions of sexual assault/sexual assault scenarios, regardless of how well-crafted or executed, regardless of vic gender or age - amusing. The lesbians-as-perps angle was particularly disturbing and it concerns me that the non-knowing will take it as truth more often than not. People viewed this video with different 'eyes'. Those were mine. |
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Some people seem to be implying that people objecting to this video don't get it was supposed to be satire or that we don't see the subtleties. Yeah, I think pretty much everyone gets it was supposed to be satire. That's not what is important to many of us. |
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I do have to wonder at what point will negative representations of lesbians (or gay men, or bisexuals, or transsexuals, etc) in fictional media be considered okay? How many GOOD representations of lesbians do you need to balance out one bad one? When will poking fun at lesbian stereotypes no longer be considered too taboo?
I mean, 15 years ago when there were no (that I can think of) representations of lesbians on television - I can see this video being a HUGE deal. Like "Oh nice, you all finally get around to putting us on teevee and you pull this lesbian cougar shit. Assholes." But now? Really? Lesbians are portrayed on television more and more - so you can't -really- expect that every portrayal of a lesbian is going to be a positive one. It's actually a little unreasonable to demand that. You can't expect entertainment media to treat you with kid gloves forever.
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Thinking about the kind of talent someone has that does put together satire that actually produces Ah, Ha moments, the ability to laugh at oneself and has some social value. This, just doesn't on the face of it. It is an insult to those talented folks that know what they are doing.
I am not crazy about the subject matter as well and the lesbian-phobic nature of it at all. But, I bet there are satirists that could pull it off in some meaningful way.... well, maybe.... |
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I don't find it funny.. I turned it off at the passed out frat girl part..
But I can see why some people would find it humorous.. My sexuality is not a sacred cow... If comedians/snl/second city can make fun of other people.. Rednecks,Mom Jeans, Republicans, Blonds, Brit Spears, then why not lesbians... I don't like that kind of humor.. I have an embarrasment factor... When people make asses of them selves, It embarrasses me.. You should see me react to Borat and the other movie.. ugh...
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Wait a sec -- let's not start with the whole humorless-lesbians-should-just-get-over-themselves stereotype. I specifically said that the Simpsons skewering of lesbians is successful satire -- meaning its damn funny. I can also remember falling off my chair laughing at Kat Clinton's ribbing menopausal lesbians to hysterical effect.
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Absolutely stupid...I wasted a couple of minutes of my time watching this hideous, dumbass video................
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Edit: oh and young girls have been portrayed in the media since the beginning of time. Seeing them drunk and passed out on the lawn ready to be fucked- not funny. |
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I actually can't think of any positive portrayals of transsexuals in entertainment media. Not one. Zero. Ditto bisexuals. But wow, you guys get Kerry Weaver. You get Willow Rosenberg. You get Dr. O'Hara. Who do I get? I'll tell you who I get. I get barsexuals - I get portrayals of girls who are drunk enough that they'll fuck anything - girls like the girls in that stupid video. I get Maureen Johnson - who comes complete with every single bad thing that people presume about bisexual women. I get Karen Walker - who is really just a self-obsessed drunk who's implied bisexuality I can't even pretend to take seriously. I get Alyssa Jones who basically said "well, I'd done everything else so I figured I'd start sleeping with women". We will explore how I feel about jokes about bisexuals and transsexuals on comedy shows once there are some legitimate and -kind- representations of bisexuals and transsexuals in the media, cool?
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Lesbians have it good so we should lighten up and not take things so seriously because the kid gloves have to come off some time, but there is zero positive portrayals of bisexuals and transsexuals so we are not going to discuss. Everything is bad. Seriously, is this what your argument is? You say the kids gloves stage can't last forever. When did this occur? How can the honeymoon be over when we never had one? Thanks for pointing out your sarcasm, cuz really I would never have noticed unless you kindly pointed it out to me. |
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This was my main objection to the clip. An incoherent, wasted college girl about to be raped (by a lesbian). |
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