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Old 08-28-2011, 05:01 PM   #1461
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Eat whole natural fresh foods. We know this works but insist on thinking it's ok to drink soda. consume overly processed foods and fats. We'll find every excuse in the world and the answers or so simple.

You are absolutely, without question, correct. Minus red meat (even grass fed beef) and minus chicken (organic in small amounts ok).

This I have learned through much research (you would do a lot of research too, if you had stage 3b cancer at age 39).
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What we put into our mouths is as important as what we don't. What foods are good for me, may not be good for you. I have IBS, I am also allergic to onions, garlic and eggs. I try really hard to stay away from any foods which even hint at these ingredients. Unfortunately most processed foods contain all of these products. So for me whole foods, natural organic foods are best, but it isn't for everyone. I can eat nuts, all kinds, some may be allergic. Point is we are all different, and checking in with our doctors can do us a world of good. We are omnivores, we are supposed to eat meats, and unlike our ancestors we have more access to meats, and are over eating them at massive rates. We have to keep veggies, fruits, nuts and tubers in our diets. My family history has diabetes, hypertension and cancer in it. I have to be cognizant of what I put in my mouth.
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I hate to give unasked for advice but anyone and everyone can call themselves a nutritionist. It is an unlicensed, unregistered title. Any of us can get the piece of paper on the Internet.

A Registered Dietician or an RD, is a degreed person and it is a profession into itself. They are the true nutritionist.

There are also Registered Nurses that are certified diabetic specialists and have additional education and certification with expertise in nutrition.

Our bodies naturally cleanse themselves. We do not retain "toxins" in our bowels. Yes they are full of flora and fauna (so-to-speak) but that is their job (as long as that is where they stay-nuff said about that in the morning).

Dehydration and electrolyte imbalance is very possible with too much "cleansing". My caveat is to be very careful with anything that you do. Check with your doctor to be sure and if you feel ill at all, stop.

Re: Alli. There is no easy way to lose weight. As with diet pills, there is always a cost when taking a short-cut.

I hope I do not offend but sometimes it is difficult to ignore my own training and background when I fear for the health of another.

I second this post.

Detoxing can be very dangerous. Do an internet search for people who have died or at least landed in the hospital because of a detoxing cleanse.

There is no magic way to lose weight.

I'm going to be harsh here because I need to say it for myself...

The only way to lose weight and keep it off it to stop putting crap into your body and get moving.

That's it... that is the ONLY way...

I've gained 50 lbs in the last two years...

I'm heaver than I have ever been in my life... 224

Why? Because I over ate, I ate crap, I stopped being mindful of my addiction and I poisioned my body with sugar and fat to the point where I now physically crave the shit...

I feel like shit because I stopped moving... All my muscle has turned to flab.... My back hurts/goes out because of the weight of my belly, my feet/ knees hurt because my frame is not meant to suport all this extra weight.

Nothing is going to change any of this except me stop putting crap in my mouth and get moving....

Cookies, brownies, my lovely french bread, chips, gravy, fried foods, process foods... It's all crap... It's poision... My body is starving, dying of thirst while I sit here and drink my hazlnut coffee with it's two sugars... My fourth cup today...

I have fruit rotting in the fridge, but that bag of cheese popcorn my son left here last night is half gone

Sigh... I say... no more... no more trying to trick my body into thinking that the snackwells are ok to eat because they are *reduced fat*

I say no more to trying to kill myself the slow way because I'm bored, or upset or *well, she knows I have a problem with (insert junk food of choice) and she brought it into the house so I'm going to eat all of it*

I've been over weight since I was 9 yrs old... I know how to lose weight, I know how to keep it off... It's hard, and it hurts, and it SUCKS big time to look at a piece of bread and ask myself.. *Is this more important that you?*

But It's time... Before there is no more time...
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I agree with your post. When my dad passed away in 2002, I gave up. I didn't care about my health or anything else for that matter. It took me almost five years to finally kick my own ass and say, "enough is enough". I stopped eating fried foods, sodas and started living again. I posted a picture of myself up in the galleries, from 2004. Back when I was 210lbs. I showed this picture to several co-workers, all of whom, could not believe that was me. While I was at the grocery store lastnight, I normally pick up the French Vanilla flavor of creamer from Coffee Mate. I looked at all of the nutritional facts and realized, the Original flavor had 15 less calories, no sodium, no cholesterol and no sugar. I brought the Original flavor home with me. Losing weight is the easy part, keeping it off is even harder. I refuse to gain any of the weight back that I have lost since January of 2007.

I cannot eat a lot of certain nuts or to much wheat due to food allergies. Which makes this very hard and like Corkey said, most of these ingredients are in processed foods...

Good luck and remember, that you can do it!

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I second this post.

Detoxing can be very dangerous. Do an internet search for people who have died or at least landed in the hospital because of a detoxing cleanse.

There is no magic way to lose weight.

I'm going to be harsh here because I need to say it for myself...

The only way to lose weight and keep it off it to stop putting crap into your body and get moving.

That's it... that is the ONLY way...

I've gained 50 lbs in the last two years...

I'm heaver than I have ever been in my life... 224

Why? Because I over ate, I ate crap, I stopped being mindful of my addiction and I poisioned my body with sugar and fat to the point where I now physically crave the shit...

I feel like shit because I stopped moving... All my muscle has turned to flab.... My back hurts/goes out because of the weight of my belly, my feet/ knees hurt because my frame is not meant to suport all this extra weight.

Nothing is going to change any of this except me stop putting crap in my mouth and get moving....

Cookies, brownies, my lovely french bread, chips, gravy, fried foods, process foods... It's all crap... It's poision... My body is starving, dying of thirst while I sit here and drink my hazlnut coffee with it's two sugars... My fourth cup today...

I have fruit rotting in the fridge, but that bag of cheese popcorn my son left here last night is half gone

Sigh... I say... no more... no more trying to trick my body into thinking that the snackwells are ok to eat because they are *reduced fat*

I say no more to trying to kill myself the slow way because I'm bored, or upset or *well, she knows I have a problem with (insert junk food of choice) and she brought it into the house so I'm going to eat all of it*

I've been over weight since I was 9 yrs old... I know how to lose weight, I know how to keep it off... It's hard, and it hurts, and it SUCKS big time to look at a piece of bread and ask myself.. *Is this more important that you?*

But It's time... Before there is no more time...
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I second this post.

Detoxing can be very dangerous. Do an internet search for people who have died or at least landed in the hospital because of a detoxing cleanse.

There is no magic way to lose weight.

I'm going to be harsh here because I need to say it for myself...

The only way to lose weight and keep it off it to stop putting crap into your body and get moving.

That's it... that is the ONLY way...

I've gained 50 lbs in the last two years...

I'm heaver than I have ever been in my life... 224

Why? Because I over ate, I ate crap, I stopped being mindful of my addiction and I poisioned my body with sugar and fat to the point where I now physically crave the shit...

I feel like shit because I stopped moving... All my muscle has turned to flab.... My back hurts/goes out because of the weight of my belly, my feet/ knees hurt because my frame is not meant to suport all this extra weight.

Nothing is going to change any of this except me stop putting crap in my mouth and get moving....

Cookies, brownies, my lovely french bread, chips, gravy, fried foods, process foods... It's all crap... It's poision... My body is starving, dying of thirst while I sit here and drink my hazlnut coffee with it's two sugars... My fourth cup today...

I have fruit rotting in the fridge, but that bag of cheese popcorn my son left here last night is half gone

Sigh... I say... no more... no more trying to trick my body into thinking that the snackwells are ok to eat because they are *reduced fat*

I say no more to trying to kill myself the slow way because I'm bored, or upset or *well, she knows I have a problem with (insert junk food of choice) and she brought it into the house so I'm going to eat all of it*

I've been over weight since I was 9 yrs old... I know how to lose weight, I know how to keep it off... It's hard, and it hurts, and it SUCKS big time to look at a piece of bread and ask myself.. *Is this more important that you?*

But It's time... Before there is no more time...
I wanted to applaud when I read this post Random. Thank you.

We can rationalize anything, can't we? And yet, we know what's true.

I take after my father's side of the family. They're not the healthiest bunch....heart disease, diabetes, Parkinson's, various cancers...the list seems endless, and each and every one of them has multiple serious health conditions from an early age.

Compared to the bulk of them, I'm healthy....and I have type 2 diabetes and take pills for diabetes, high triglycerides and high blood pressure. I have since I was about 40.

Here's the deal. Historically, they were farmers. They did hard physical work. They were active. They ate mostly real food (like we all did before the advent of fast food, high fructose corn syrup and all the artificial crap we kid ourselves is food, beginning only in my generation). Did they bake and eat cakes and cookies and stuff? Heck yes. Did they eat cheese and butter in large quantities? Hell, yes....they were dairy farmers. Were they slim? No. They were "stocky"....not huge...just solid, big people. Yes, my grandfather died young of a heart attack, but most of them lived an average lifespan with only average health issues.

Fast forward to the present....when they are no longer farmers. They are no longer active. They live on crap....white flour, sugar, artificial everything, processed everything, no fresh fruit and veggies...just crap. It's killing them....and it's killing them younger and younger and in more and more horrible ways. All of the genetic weaknesses that have always been there are now active and thriving...and they are all sick...really sick...and really overweight.

At a family gathering I sat and watched them stuff ice cream and sweet tea into a toddler who was already literally too fat to walk....and who kept turning her head away to refuse the food. They kept insisting, and finally she gave up and ate more. I listened to my favorite cousin, who is 12 years younger than me, laugh and shake her head about not being able to get her A1c below 11 (which is flat out dangerous)....while she spooned in all of the crap on the dessert table at the Golden Corral. I listened to her older sister (my age) tell me about her latest battle with cancer....her fourth.

One of my aunts died a few years back from complications of diabetes. They systematically cut gangrenous pieces off of her but couldn't keep up. Her organs shut down one after the other. The morphine stopped working. It was the most horrible way to die that I can imagine. She was 54. And, I'm sorry....but she did it to herself. I knew that woman. I watched her eat. As a diabetic, she would sit down and consume a 2 lb. bag of Hydrox cookies at one sitting just to watch a TV show. She weighed 400 lbs. Essentially, she killed herself with food.

Her daughter, who watched her die, is 13 years younger than me....looks 15 years older....weighs 350....and is following in her mother's footsteps.

This breaks my heart.

Here's the deal. These are good, loving, caring, warm, compassionate people. And they are killing themselves with spoons and forks.

This is what's motivating me...and scaring the hell out of me...enough to make some changes. For me, there is no food that tastes good enough to die the death my aunt did.
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The total and absolute honesty in this thread truly touches me. I think it is safe to say that for most of us got overweight due to just plain eating too much of things not very good for us or even good things, in larger quantities than our bodies needed.

Maybe we currently (or previously) overeat/overate for different reasons but we have all wound up on this thread.

I have a terrible tendency to berate myself & to put myself down for things that most would call human frailties. Sometimes I see that others do that to themselves, too.

I am trying to be kind to myself for my human weaknesses and to focus on today instead if all of my yesterdays.

That includes eating. I will never be 110 again. I am not 16 again either. My goal weight is not as far away as when I started. I need to stop thinking that it feels a million miles away. Negative thinking puts me in a bad place. It is like a loop that can run for hours or days in my head.

I need to change that tape for so many areas of my life. Healthy eating for the rest of my life is only one part of it.

The honesty and courage I read on this thread helps me to be more honest with myself.

Thank you for that.
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[...]

Why? Because I over ate, I ate crap, I stopped being mindful of my addiction and I poisioned my body with sugar and fat to the point where I now physically crave the shit...

[...]

Cookies, brownies, my lovely french bread, chips, gravy, fried foods, process foods... It's all crap... It's poision...

[...]

I say no more to trying to kill myself the slow way because I'm bored, or upset or *well, she knows I have a problem with (insert junk food of choice) and she brought it into the house so I'm going to eat all of it*

[...]

look at a piece of bread and ask myself.. *Is this more important that you?*

But It's time... Before there is no more time...
Thank you. I needed this.

I use X,Y,Z emotions as rationalizations and excuses to binge. I will tell myself that "I deserve it" because "I am having a hard time." or my favorite battle cry "Fuck it. I don't care." (Yes, admittedly, a lame and ineffective battle cry)

To myself I say, "Suck it up Buttercup, life is hard sometimes. Killing yourself with food will not change that."

I also have to add one more thing that I need to hear...

Seven years ago I was diagnosed with asthma and after 10 days in the hospital the doctor told me that if I did not change my lifestyle of work, study, sleep as little as possible. Repeat, I would have an oxygen tank by the time I was 50.

So I became a runner. A slow, back of the pack, has-been-dead-fucking-last runner, but a runner none the less. I am proud of myself for that, but I often use my running or other exercise as an excuse to overeat and, worse yet, to overeat my favorite binge foods. I am a bona fide CARB-ivore. If it has white flour, white sugar, and, Lord help me, butter, I LOVE it and will eat it until gone. I am like a goldfish that way. I rationalize that "I earned it."

Let's look at that, shall we?

On Saturday I ran 18 miles it took me 3 hours and 41 minutes. I weigh 158 pounds (*sigh*) based on BMR and a Running Calorie Calculator (not perfect, but closer than my heartrate monitor)

For that workout I burned approximately 2,000 calories. For simplicity sake I will just look at calories although the food choices are worse than just their calories indicate:

If I were to go to Applebee's because "I earned it", and split the spinach artichoke dip with my run buddy (800 cal) because "I earned it", then have the three cheese chicken penne because "I earned it" (1530 cal), then split the chocolate meltdown came, (even though I want one all to myself) because "I earned it" (405 cal) that makes a grand total of

600 + 1530 + 405 = 2535 calories

So because "I earned it", based on 3500 extra calories needed to gain one pound of fat, I have now gained 0.2 pounds of fat in one post run meal. Super.

And, honestly, I carry that "I ran 18 miles on Saturday" with me all week and will use it as an excuse to make poor choices LONG after the "extra" calories I burned have been consumed.
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Here's the deal. Historically, they were farmers. They did hard physical work. They were active. They ate mostly real food (like we all did before the advent of fast food, high fructose corn syrup and all the artificial crap we kid ourselves is food, beginning only in my generation). Did they bake and eat cakes and cookies and stuff? Heck yes. Did they eat cheese and butter in large quantities? Hell, yes....they were dairy farmers. Were they slim? No. They were "stocky"....not huge...just solid, big people. Yes, my grandfather died young of a heart attack, but most of them lived an average lifespan with only average health issues.

Fast forward to the present....when they are no longer farmers. They are no longer active. They live on crap....white flour, sugar, artificial everything, processed everything, no fresh fruit and veggies...just crap. It's killing them....and it's killing them younger and younger and in more and more horrible ways. All of the genetic weaknesses that have always been there are now active and thriving...and they are all sick...really sick...and really overweight.


This is what's motivating me...and scaring the hell out of me...enough to make some changes. For me, there is no food that tastes good enough to die the death my aunt did.
I do understand that my views differ from others and that's fine.

The life span many years ago has increased quite a bit. In the 1800's people, especially men, rarely lived past 40's. Although the life span has increased we have a large population of of sick overweight people. There are lots of things to blame for this including politics, conventional medicine and big business. You can believe this or not.

But if you carefully investigate, look deeper into all the components you'll see that there is a type of revolution. There are people uncovering the truth, people fighting and standing up. Victories are slowly being won to protect our food supply and our health. The very bread/wheat you eat is harming you and you don't even realize the long term effects. The fucking government funding advertising for foods that will kill you. The FDA controlled by pharmaceutical companies with a clear agenda. Trust me, it's happening. There are other countries treating cancer and many other illnesses with proper nutrition-organic fresh foods and vitamin therapy. It's a known fact that medical students are taught medicine, not nutrition. why?

So although I see OUR country infected with bad health and serious weight issues I also see a lot of people taking control and changing their life. I'm one of them. It's not easy and I fight everyday with some kind of issue. I often sabotage my best efforts but I must forge ahead not only for my own health and well being but to set an example for my granddaughters, my family and everyone around me. I actively work not only on myself but proactive in animal nutrition and working with organizations to educate and protect our national food supply. the very food supply they alter, poison and control. It's killing us, its hurting our children and perhaps there are deeper agendas such as population control. Who really knows because the rules keep changing.

I am a firm believer in that if I want things around me to change I must start by changing me.

Good health is a complete process. Preventive and rejuvenating. It's not instant nor is the thought processes that have been drummed into our minds sabotaging our efforts, confusing us and making us consume even more. It's not what the food is, its what they do to the food and how they process it.

damn I;m on a rant huh? lol I'm working with a group on local food programs and recently got the report on the buying and budget for the local schools lunch program. Needless to say its upsetting.
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Detoxing can be very dangerous. Do an internet search for people who have died or at least landed in the hospital because of a detoxing cleanse.

There is no magic way to lose weight.

I'm going to be harsh here because I need to say it for myself...

The only way to lose weight and keep it off it to stop putting crap into your body and get moving.

That's it... that is the ONLY way...

I've gained 50 lbs in the last two years...

I'm heaver than I have ever been in my life... 224

Why? Because I over ate, I ate crap, I stopped being mindful of my addiction and I poisioned my body with sugar and fat to the point where I now physically crave the shit...

I feel like shit because I stopped moving... All my muscle has turned to flab.... My back hurts/goes out because of the weight of my belly, my feet/ knees hurt because my frame is not meant to suport all this extra weight.

Nothing is going to change any of this except me stop putting crap in my mouth and get moving....

Cookies, brownies, my lovely french bread, chips, gravy, fried foods, process foods... It's all crap... It's poision... My body is starving, dying of thirst while I sit here and drink my hazlnut coffee with it's two sugars... My fourth cup today...

I have fruit rotting in the fridge, but that bag of cheese popcorn my son left here last night is half gone

Sigh... I say... no more... no more trying to trick my body into thinking that the snackwells are ok to eat because they are *reduced fat*

I say no more to trying to kill myself the slow way because I'm bored, or upset or *well, she knows I have a problem with (insert junk food of choice) and she brought it into the house so I'm going to eat all of it*

I've been over weight since I was 9 yrs old... I know how to lose weight, I know how to keep it off... It's hard, and it hurts, and it SUCKS big time to look at a piece of bread and ask myself.. *Is this more important that you?*

But It's time... Before there is no more time...
I can't even begin to tell you Random how much I see Myself in this post, alot more than I care to admit at times. I relate to SO much of this post, and seeing it before My eyes is more than just hearing it or thinking it ~ sometimes you have to actually *SEE* it to get it to sink in. I have bolded a few statements in your post because they are what I relate to; I wanna break down each bolded part so I can show how it relates to Me:

1) I'm the heaviest I've EVER been in My entire life! 374 lbs is dangerous and I know that, yet its still taking Me alot to change what I need to.

2) I have over-stuffed Myself with sugar, white flour and other processed junk to the point where that is My biggest problem ~ My body physically craves that shit and I go through major withdrawals if I don't have it in My system. I liken it to My dad's older brother, Steve, who has been a heavy alcohol drinker all of his life and beer does have sugar in it. Who knows how many beers he had/has a day, but he was diagnosed years ago with Type 2 Diabetes and told to stop the beer and of course never listened. Now he is a Type 1 diabetic, sticks himself with insulin needles, and STILL drinks beer. He was recently put into the hospital and when My parents visited him, he was going through such bad withdrawls that he was literally shaking so bad his bed shook ~ out of the hospital for a few months and still drinking beer. He's so used to drinking that he basically needs it to survive ........ do any of us honestly need that shit in our bodies to survive? No!

3) Having so much weight on My body, My back is constantly in pain and of course as most know I recently went to the hospital because My legs and feet were swollen so badly I could hardly walk. I can't kneel or crouch down anymore because My knees just can't handle it, going up and down any flight of stairs is killer and even just walking a short distance can cause alot of pain and/or discomfort ........ see, even just writing it down can open one's eyes!

4) I have bought fruit before, like an entire bag of apples, and the ENTIRE bag has had to be thrown out because I never ate it ~ but I was having chips, chocolate, ice cream etc

5) Alot of My eating comes when I'm bored or upset (especially if My father is opening up his mouth about something) and he likes to keep chips and ice cream and other processed junk in the house and bitches when I eat any of it ~ which in turn just makes Me eat more of it ........ this is toxic and damaging, and yet its familair to Me **shakes head**

6) I've been overweight and gaining since the age of 5 ~ 5!!!!!! Here I am 31 yrs old and the heaviest I've ever been ............ something has to change, before I'm not aorund anymore (and thats NOT an option!).


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I wanted to applaud when I read this post Random. Thank you.

We can rationalize anything, can't we? And yet, we know what's true.

I take after my father's side of the family. They're not the healthiest bunch....heart disease, diabetes, Parkinson's, various cancers...the list seems endless, and each and every one of them has multiple serious health conditions from an early age.

Compared to the bulk of them, I'm healthy....and I have type 2 diabetes and take pills for diabetes, high triglycerides and high blood pressure. I have since I was about 40.

Here's the deal. Historically, they were farmers. They did hard physical work. They were active. They ate mostly real food (like we all did before the advent of fast food, high fructose corn syrup and all the artificial crap we kid ourselves is food, beginning only in my generation). Did they bake and eat cakes and cookies and stuff? Heck yes. Did they eat cheese and butter in large quantities? Hell, yes....they were dairy farmers. Were they slim? No. They were "stocky"....not huge...just solid, big people. Yes, my grandfather died young of a heart attack, but most of them lived an average lifespan with only average health issues.

Fast forward to the present....when they are no longer farmers. They are no longer active. They live on crap....white flour, sugar, artificial everything, processed everything, no fresh fruit and veggies...just crap. It's killing them....and it's killing them younger and younger and in more and more horrible ways. All of the genetic weaknesses that have always been there are now active and thriving...and they are all sick...really sick...and really overweight.

At a family gathering I sat and watched them stuff ice cream and sweet tea into a toddler who was already literally too fat to walk....and who kept turning her head away to refuse the food. They kept insisting, and finally she gave up and ate more. I listened to my favorite cousin, who is 12 years younger than me, laugh and shake her head about not being able to get her A1c below 11 (which is flat out dangerous)....while she spooned in all of the crap on the dessert table at the Golden Corral. I listened to her older sister (my age) tell me about her latest battle with cancer....her fourth.

One of my aunts died a few years back from complications of diabetes. They systematically cut gangrenous pieces off of her but couldn't keep up. Her organs shut down one after the other. The morphine stopped working. It was the most horrible way to die that I can imagine. She was 54. And, I'm sorry....but she did it to herself. I knew that woman. I watched her eat. As a diabetic, she would sit down and consume a 2 lb. bag of Hydrox cookies at one sitting just to watch a TV show. She weighed 400 lbs. Essentially, she killed herself with food.

Her daughter, who watched her die, is 13 years younger than me....looks 15 years older....weighs 350....and is following in her mother's footsteps.

This breaks my heart.

Here's the deal. These are good, loving, caring, warm, compassionate people. And they are killing themselves with spoons and forks.

This is what's motivating me...and scaring the hell out of me...enough to make some changes. For me, there is no food that tastes good enough to die the death my aunt did.
Jo, just like Random your post has hit so many nails on the head for Me, that its really causing Me to reflect on My life and how its spiralled so much out of control. I can relate with SO much of this, its amazing to Me how much crap we put in our bodies as a way of trying to rationalize just *why* we put it in our mouths! I do want to kinda break down a couple of things in your post as well just to rshow how it relates to Me:

1) Other than the Parkinson's (which no one in My family has ever had), the rest of them have been prominent in My family ~ heart disease, cancer and diabetes. My mom's parents both died of cancer; My Papa of liver cancer in May 1998 and My Nan of lung cancer (life time smoker) in May of 1999 ........ they actually died exactly 360 days apart. They had raised Me along with My mom for the first 14 yrs of My life (until My dad came into My life) and were My second set of parents so when they died so close to one another that was the first devastating blow I ever had to endure where someone I loved died. My dad had his first heart attack at the age of 33 and has amazingly enough, and this is 100% true, has survived dying 9 times from heart attacks (not that he's had nine) but thats enough. Both My parents and I have type 2 diabetes; My Papa had it too but he was the epitomy of taking care of himself when it came to being diabetic so I should be taking after him. Then My cousin Tammy died 4 yrs ago from colon cancer and I literally watched her take her last breath; held her hand and was only one of 3 people in the room when she died (and that had a profound effect on Me). Should have been enough for Me to change but I haven't ~ and its really not doing Me any good.

2) I am not active either and I live on any kind of junk that you can think of: chips, chocolate (not so much lately), ice cream (I have cut down alot), processed foods, pepsi etc. I've had fruits in the house on many occassions and ended up having to throw it out because I never ate, it just sat there and went bad ~ something I have to change if I expect to be alive in the next few years.

3) The part about the toddler kind of makes Me think of My sister in a way; she's not force fed or anything, but after she was diagnosed with autism her palate changed and she stopped eating regular food because alot of it was like sandpaper to her. She refuses to eat veggies or most kind of fruit (though she does love bananas and oranges); she only drinks apple juice though we dilute it down with water so its not as "straight" as it was before. She eats very limited foods and I do mean limited; we try her on new things all the time but she will literally refuse to eat it. Her favorite (and constant) things that she will eat are potato chips, ice cream, pizza and some other things (can't remember everything). She's only active more or less during school when she has gym, goes for walks alot or does other activities that they have there; this entire summer she sat in front of the computer and DVD player all day and as much as I tried to get her to go outside with Me for walks or whatnot I couldnt do it ~ I don't want her to become another Me.

4) I am doing this to Myself, its true. I've always had low self-esteem and low self confidence and have always been told I'll never be good enough so I ate ~ which was in a sense proving everyone right. I ate to get rid of feeling anything because I believed that people were right and that I was never going to be good enough so I never even tried. I've been killing Myself, literally, without even thinking and now that I'm creeping close to 400 lbs (which really scares the hell out of Me). I *HAVE* no choice but to change because I do *NOT* want to die and don't want to end up physically unable to do anything because My insides are shutting down!

5) I'm following in too many people's footsteps and I'm killing Myself with food and utensils .......... I'm supposed to be living and yet in a sense I'm dying? I'm glad this thread is here because I *NEED* these types of wake up calls to kick My ass and say "STOP KILLING YOURSELF!" ~ Its time to stop NOW before its absolutely too late.
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Everyone I am sorry for getting all political and shit. Please accept my apologies. I'm fueled with a lot of passion these days and it gets one over on me.

If anyone has questions regarding this subject, juicing, etc. by all means please feel free to private msg me. I may not always have instant time but will help as I can.

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do understand tho I am not apologizing for my beliefs. Just for ranting here. I whole heartedly believe and advocate everything I said.
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Mathew,

I'm glad what I posted struck home...

I decided to post that post because of you...

You know that my pm's and rep notes to you are harsh....

It's because I see a lot of my 20 yr old self in you...

You said it best... Sometimes seeing it in the words that someone else wrote down is like a kick in the gut (paraphrase)

That's what this thread had done for me...

So maybe share myself a little and see if I can do the same for someone else...


Breakfast:

1 cup of coffee... 1 teaspoon sugar and half the amount of creamer.. (slowly decrease the sugar and creamer until I'm drinking black... STOP using things as a delivery meathod for fats and sugars)

1 cup of white rice ( I have brown, but I knew that being too gung ho FOR ME is setting myself up to fail) no sugar/ no butter... Chopped up two dried aprocots for the sweetness

2 slices of cantalope

Snacks:
Dried cranberries and carrots... (still high in sugar, but at least it's natural)

Lunch:
1 Cup Rice with cranberries, as much salad as I can eat... no cheese, no crutons, no meat, lemon (per usual) as dressing..

Snacks:

Almonds and cantalope

Dinner: I have no clue....

I will bring ONE cup of coffee to work with me... Non flavored creamer and 1 tsp of sugar... I WILL drink at least 3 8 oz glasses of water... I will bring lemon with me to flavor the water...

I will walk around the building on my breaks instead of sitting and reading a book...

I hope everyone has a GOOD day... off to get ready for work..
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Thanks everyone for throwing your personal history of diet and family illnesses out here. It's not always easy to share information like that. It does help us open our eyes to what we are doing to ourselves or what path we may end up on if we don't take care of ourselves. I appreciate your stories. It motivates and inspires. I hope it does the same for you all to make a healthy change. Thanks!

As far as fruits and vegetables spoiling. Try one or two at a time and buy just a few to make sure you will eat them before they spoil. If you get rid of the junk food it will make it harder to want any. . It will be out of your reach. Matthew that may be hard for you with your family's choices. You have to be strong for yourself. Instead of being upset and angry with your father, turn your life around and show him you can lose weight and become healthy. Be a role model for your family and your little sister. They may give you hell, but they will appreciate it later. Be strong man. I know it's hard, but from what you say here I know you can do it! I have faith in you my friend.

I have managed to keep off 10 lbs that I lost a week ago. I go a bit off the bandwagon but I get right back on track. I think the biggest thing for me in keeping this weight off and losing more is staying away from sugar and fat.. and choosing the foods with lesser calories like instead of regular bacon - turkey bacon, instead of regular eggs - egg beaters, instead of white bread - whole wheat bread, instead of soda - ice tea, etc..

Today I didn't even look twice at the aisle of candy and chocolate. I can tell I'm starting to not have cravings for junk food. When I do ,I allow myself a few bites. I'm starting not to enjoy heavy, fat foods either. When I find myself eating it, I usually don't feel good after and it wasn't satisfying. So, this is good for me because then I tend to go back to healthier choices. It starts with trying and making a few changes then eventually you will start to eat healthier and make wiser choices with food.
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Mathew,

I'm glad what I posted struck home...

I decided to post that post because of you...

You know that my pm's and rep notes to you are harsh....

It's because I see a lot of my 20 yr old self in you...

You said it best... Sometimes seeing it in the words that someone else wrote down is like a kick in the gut (paraphrase)

That's what this thread had done for me...

So maybe share myself a little and see if I can do the same for someone else...


Breakfast:

1 cup of coffee... 1 teaspoon sugar and half the amount of creamer.. (slowly decrease the sugar and creamer until I'm drinking black... STOP using things as a delivery meathod for fats and sugars)

1 cup of white rice ( I have brown, but I knew that being too gung ho FOR ME is setting myself up to fail) no sugar/ no butter... Chopped up two dried aprocots for the sweetness

2 slices of cantalope

Snacks:
Dried cranberries and carrots... (still high in sugar, but at least it's natural)

Lunch:
1 Cup Rice with cranberries, as much salad as I can eat... no cheese, no crutons, no meat, lemon (per usual) as dressing..

Snacks:

Almonds and cantalope

Dinner: I have no clue....

I will bring ONE cup of coffee to work with me... Non flavored creamer and 1 tsp of sugar... I WILL drink at least 3 8 oz glasses of water... I will bring lemon with me to flavor the water...

I will walk around the building on my breaks instead of sitting and reading a book...

I hope everyone has a GOOD day... off to get ready for work..

Random,

Yes I know sometimes I've gotten a post or PM and thought, wow that was rather heavy and sometimes it bothered Me but I always stopped to think ........ she wouldn't be doing it if she didn't care. I admit fully that sometimes it takes someone being harsh to help Me realize that I can't just float through life doing what I've always done because that is exactly what My problem is. Your just trying to be a good friend and I appreciate that alot, so thank you for looking out for Me, it's gonna help alot over the next little while :-)
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I am reading "Native American Women" (1996) by Diana Steer. She points out that scientists have found that living in the pure land as it was then, and centuries of knowledge doing so, found whole cultures without tooth decay, arthritis, no cancer among northerns and eskimos, and lived longer than we thought. As soon as they ate Europeon food, and learned their ways, their health deteriorated. They also knew which part of an animal provided crucial vitamins to prevent diseases. For example,The Plains tribes knew to eat raw adrenal glands for vitamin C and vitamin A around the fatty tissues of the eyes of animals etc. things we would'nt think of eating raw today. Most of this knowledge is gone now, along with the pure land, but since I began reading this book, I now believe they lived better and just as long as us.
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Well hello there my healthy peeps! It's good to see a lot of positive changes happening, healthy choices & scootin' right along on this journey. Y'all keep up the great work... I'm so proud of each & every one of you!

So, my weekend was filled with not one but TWO surprise birthday parties. Friday night, mexican food, margaritas & lots of dancing. Saturday, crab cakes, wine, cheesecake and lots of dancing. Needless to say, my body feels like crap!

I so did not want to step on the scale this morning to see where the overindulging weekend set me back. Yep a 5 pound gain! HOLY CRAP.... there is no freakin' way! My head can't wrap around that jump on the scale... other than I didn't drink near enough water and lord knows I'm pmsing! So, I'm gonna take it in stride and get this ball rolling again!

The free for all weekend is a thing of the past and I'm taking control back!
I'm chugging water like mad crazy and tracking my food, being sure to load up on fruits & veggies. I've got meals planned... and NO eating out this week! D and I promised eachother that we would hit the gym tomorrow & Wednesday (can't go tonight because I work the 2nd job).

So far today...

Breakfast:
Special K (original) cereal
a banana
and a small sugar free iced vanilla coffee

Lunch:
leftover spaghetti made with ground turkey and Smart Choice pasta
cucumber & tomato slices

Dinner (on the way to the 2nd job):
ham & turkey sandwich on a honey wheat deli thin
a few baked cheetos
an orange & a handful of grapes

Snacks:
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yogurt
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Today I went to the doc for an 11:30am appointment,I got there at 11:15,it took over two hours to just get my bp(120/65) weight 2481/2 then I got measured for hights...I lost a half inch..I was 5'5"...where I dont know but I want it back.I didnt stay for the appointment cause after a four hour wait and u can bet they werent anywhere close to my number,I went home.I understand they had folks ahead of me,but four hours is to dam long to wait on much of anything.I wasnt sick or needed to see him but he wanted to do a follow up on the last appointment.I will rescedual if I need to go for anything,hopefuly I can get an appointment when all the drug reps arent takeing all the time up that should be used for seeing people..Grrrrr.
On another subject...In my family we dont have many over weight people,most of us a re pretty active,my parenrts,grand folks,aunts and uncles,the only one that was ever remotely over weight was my grannie in later years of her life.On to my generation we have folks that are either thin or in the middle weight wise with only a couple who are heavy.I didnt put this weight on till 15 years ago when I stoped chaseing rodeos on a near daily basics.I was very active,hardly ate,worked near all the time,then it became really hard to go from day to day without wanting to eat more and more.In truth I was on 500 calries a day,takeing 20 pills a day to combat vitimin loss,once a day I made an 8 oz shake with liquid iron based vitimins in it..it was nasty to drink but on big gulp or two it was down and gone.Then I had a hysto..I havent been the same sence,then there was as series of family drama that prolly was the thing that set me on the path to over eating from stress.Stress I had in ten folds that just didnt stop till long after mom passed.Then I had to deal with the guilt of following a promiss I made to her that when and if she went into a coma or had no brain function and was by all means and ways deceased from illness or stroke that I would not prolong her life by mechanical means.For the first three years every morning at 3:10am I would wake up with the phone ringing in my head..it dosent happen but once and a while now..this is probly whay I dont sleep all night or take so long to fall asleep.I finaly ajusted to things ,got folks out of my life that were toxic...some family some friends I really cared for but were drama ridden.So now I am getting a hold of life for the better,it just took a while..the price was high but bit by bit im reclaiming me for me and no one else.It just takes one step at the time and the courage to keep takeing the steps.
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Just got off the stationary bike:

6.7 miles, 22 minutes, 160 calories burned

Soundtrack:

Marilyn Manson - Beautiful People
CeeLo - Fuck you
Wiz Khalifa - Black and Yellow
Mumford and Sons - The Cave
(and I'll have to admit that I listened to Marilyn Manson twice because I love it that much!)


Edited to add: I almost want to get back on the bike just to have the excuse to keep listening to music all night. Denzel (my iPod) is being really intuitive tonight about what I want to hear
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I hope that at the very least within the next two weeks, when I can afford it, I buy an iPod Shuffle so I can have some music to walk with :-)
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Just did a morning warm-up for 10 minutes/60 calories on the bike.

My butt HURTS! It's like one of those baboons with a giant red ass!





Needless to say, I would ride a lot longer if my butt didn't feel like it had been beaten with a golf club.
I'm looking for a bigger seat and have tried pillows, folded towels, etc. I'm desperate for some butt relief because I am LOVING the stationary bike so any ideas appreciated!

I found a "no pressure" seat on Amazon but it looks like a giant tractor seat, don't know if it would work.
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:19 AM   #1480
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Good morning everybody! 5 o'clock is way too early for me. :/

I have a lot to do today and tomorrow so I can be on my way to FL Thursday.

coffee!! .. and a strawberry Special K bar (90 calories)
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