Strategic Voting

betenoire · 05-10-2010, 10:40 AM

I'm curious about how people here feel about that.

While I am a big supporter of The NDP I do, in my current riding, vote for The Liberal Party because I know that where I live the Liberals are the ONLY party that have a snowballs chance in hell of beating the pure evil Conservative Party.

If I was still living in Toronto or Vancouver, I would be voting NDP - because the NDP has a chance there. But since moving to Sarnia, I feel like my vote is almost wasted by voting with my heart - so I use it to cockblock the Conservatives.

Do you think I am a dishonest voter, or a smart voter? And why?

dreadgeek · 05-10-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by betenoire

I'm curious about how people here feel about that.

While I am a big supporter of The NDP I do, in my current riding, vote for The Liberal Party because I know that where I live the Liberals are the ONLY party that have a snowballs chance in hell of beating the pure evil Conservative Party.

If I was still living in Toronto or Vancouver, I would be voting NDP - because the NDP has a chance there. But since moving to Sarnia, I feel like my vote is almost wasted by voting with my heart - so I use it to cockblock the Conservatives.

Do you think I am a dishonest voter, or a smart voter? And why?

Honestly, I think you are a smart voter. I'm a big booster of strategic voting and I wish more people did so. In local races, I tend to vote Green and in national races I tend to vote Democratic. If we had a parliamentary system, I would probably vote Green in national races in order to give them a place at the table.

BullDog · 05-10-2010, 10:58 AM

I think you are a smart voter. Cockblock the Conservatives!

UofMfan · 05-10-2010, 11:03 AM

I think you are a smart voter. I wish there were more like you in the US.

I have voted strategically here many times in order to make sure the evil doers don't get into office.

I even voted for the Conservative primary (I am a registered Liberal voter) only so that I could vote for the candidate opposing the very strong Conservative. It worked. I also encourage my friends to vote strategically.

Voting with your heart is fun when you know the majority is doing the same and when you know your vote will not go to waste. Every vote counts.

betenoire · 05-10-2010, 11:08 AM

But we do have a Parliament in Canada.

However, knowing that the NDP is never going to get a seat in Parliament from the riding that I currently live in - I work to give that seat to someone from the Liberal Party.

I'm a little bit torn, to be honest. I love that my NDP has the seats that it has in the House of Commons. I also like that the Bloc Quebecois has seats. It totally makes happy that there are two seats that have gone to Independents. Woo! Those parties have representation! They are there in the room where things get done.

But then when I do some math (which I hate) I realise that if all those seats that are held by the NDP, Bloc Quebecios, and Independents had gone to Liberals instead....we wouldn't have those fucking Conservatives in power (although, not too much power - since they didn't form the majority) right now.

At least the good guys all get to join opposition forces and cockblock Stephen Harper together. *shrug*

edited to add: why the hell did I put this in the Red Zone? I am a stupidhead.

dreadgeek · 05-10-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by betenoire

edited to add: why the hell did I put this in the Red Zone? I am a stupidhead.

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betenoire · 05-10-2010, 12:18 PM

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I didn't know you were a mod! Now I have to play nice around you, too.

You can if you wanna. It's prolly a more appropriate area for it.

Linus · 05-10-2010, 12:27 PM

I was always in a toss-up as to whether to vote for my party of choice or what when I lived at home (Ottawa and Toronto areas). I was lucky that downtown Toronto was either Liberal or NDP. The reality is that the Liberals need to get off their asses and find a decent representative leader (the NDP will never end up in power after the Ontario NDP did their duty in power).

Daryn · 05-10-2010, 08:59 PM

Years ago, and I mean many decades when I was wet behind the ears and in college, some of my circle had this idea that they should infiltrate the Repub party and try to change it from within. From what has transpired, I don't think they fared well. And if you hang out with the wrong crowd you risk being co-opted and buying into stuff you once disdained. I live in a state where many races are "non-partisan" meaning no party affiliation with candidate's name on the ballot. Still you can pretty much tell who is who just by the drivel in the voter's pamphlet and who is endorsing a particular candidate.

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betenoire Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Satan in a Sunday Hat Preferred Pronoun?: Maow Relationship Status: Married Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: The Chemical Valley Posts: 4,086 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,312 Thanked 8,742 Times in 2,566 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	But we do have a Parliament in Canada. However, knowing that the NDP is never going to get a seat in Parliament from the riding that I currently live in - I work to give that seat to someone from the Liberal Party. I'm a little bit torn, to be honest. I love that my NDP has the seats that it has in the House of Commons. I also like that the Bloc Quebecois has seats. It totally makes happy that there are two seats that have gone to Independents. Woo! Those parties have representation! They are there in the room where things get done. But then when I do some math (which I hate) I realise that if all those seats that are held by the NDP, Bloc Quebecios, and Independents had gone to Liberals instead....we wouldn't have those fucking Conservatives in power (although, not too much power - since they didn't form the majority) right now. At least the good guys all get to join opposition forces and cockblock Stephen Harper together. shrug edited to add: why the hell did I put this in the Red Zone? I am a stupidhead. __________________ bête noire \bet-NWAHR\, noun: One that is particularly disliked or that is to be avoided.

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Daryn Timed Out How Do You Identify?: genderqueer leaning male Preferred Pronoun?: he/ze Relationship Status: open to persuasion..... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: OR Posts: 185 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 209 Thanked 280 Times in 81 Posts Rep Power: 0	Years ago, and I mean many decades when I was wet behind the ears and in college, some of my circle had this idea that they should infiltrate the Repub party and try to change it from within. From what has transpired, I don't think they fared well. And if you hang out with the wrong crowd you risk being co-opted and buying into stuff you once disdained. I live in a state where many races are "non-partisan" meaning no party affiliation with candidate's name on the ballot. Still you can pretty much tell who is who just by the drivel in the voter's pamphlet and who is endorsing a particular candidate.