Happy Indigenous Peoples Day!

Corkey · 10-10-2011, 03:09 PM

Ok so this is my attempt at sticking it to the US governments lame day for the man who wiped out entire societies all in the name of his king and queen.
Do you celebrate or mourn for these people?
Your thought on this auspicious day.

Please as always be respectful to your neighbor.

Mr. Moon · 10-10-2011, 03:48 PM

I mourn for those killed, raped, ravaged and a multitude of other things. I think what still goes on in regards to this is the most horrible.

U.S.A. sure likes to think they are saviors of the oppressed. but forget that they are doing just that.

This thread could get quite radical...are we in the red zone?? LOL

But seriously, I find it awful.

-Mr. Moon

Ebon · 10-10-2011, 04:03 PM

It's just like the USA to glorify a murderer and try to candy coat the bullshit that they did. They might as well have Hitler day as far as I'm concerned. I went to an event that some Native people threw in Boston when I lived there. It was called "Who was this Columbus guy anyway." I don't understand how people don't stop and think about all of the horrible things that he was responsible for.

Apocalipstic · 10-10-2011, 04:17 PM

I changed all our work calendars to say Fall Bank Holiday.

Liam · 10-10-2011, 04:31 PM

I do not celebrate today's federal holiday.

Corkey · 10-10-2011, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Moon

I mourn for those killed, raped, ravaged and a multitude of other things. I think what still goes on in regards to this is the most horrible.

U.S.A. sure likes to think they are saviors of the oppressed. but forget that they are doing just that.

This thread could get quite radical...are we in the red zone?? LOL

But seriously, I find it awful.

-Mr. Moon

No not in the red zone, I figured if people can't be respectful to each other here, then there really isn't any hope for the future.

Corkey · 10-10-2011, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebon

It's just like the USA to glorify a murderer and try to candy coat the bullshit that they did. They might as well have Hitler day as far as I'm concerned. I went to an event that some Native people threw in Boston when I lived there. It was called "Who was this Columbus guy anyway." I don't understand how people don't stop and think about all of the horrible things that he was responsible for.

I know, but this is something that has to happen, people need to hear it.

Abigail Crabby · 10-10-2011, 04:33 PM

I do not celebrate this day as a holiday - where the fuck did Columbus get off murdering the people who belonged here.

I celebrate the indigenous people of this land.....

Okiebug61 · 10-10-2011, 05:00 PM

Shouldn't we add Andrew Jackson to the hit list?

Ebon · 10-10-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Okiebug61

Shouldn't we add Andrew Jackson to the hit list?

I get what you're saying but I think the point was that columbus has a holiday after him on a federal level. It's just a big kick in the face to all of the true owners of this land.

Okiebug61 · 10-10-2011, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebon

I get what you're saying but I think the point was that columbus has a holiday after him on a federal level. It's just a big kick in the face to all of the true owners of this land.

Jackson has a $20.00 bill with his face on it that we have to look at every time one is handed to us.

Ebon · 10-10-2011, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okiebug61

Jackson has a $20.00 bill with his face on it that we have to look at every time one is handed to us.

good point. Lol

Apocalipstic · 10-10-2011, 05:44 PM

Well, and it's not Andrew Jackson day...even in Nashville where he is quite loved.

I really think so many people in the US believe what they were taught in school, and have no idea that Columbus did not share Thanksgiving on the Pinta with Pocahantas. No clue. Even what they were taught in US History or Social Studies, they remember nothing and really don't care.

However,

In so many cases when people learn what actually happened, so many of them are horrified and get why it should not be a Federal Holiday.

We did not celebrate Calumbus day in Argentina. We celebrated Dia de la Raza which was a celebration of diversity.

Corkey · 10-10-2011, 05:51 PM

This isn't about Jackson, yes he did some crappy stuff, the man raped and pillaged and was well thought of, until he wasn't. The government didn't give him his own day for genocide unlike the killer from Spain. Our government to this day will not recognize that it is propagating lies about how this country was "found". It was "found" roughly 30-40 thousand years ago, but the white man didn't know of it so you know history wasn't history because europeans were clueless.

Apocalipstic · 10-10-2011, 05:52 PM

Except for those people who just will not dare open their minds.

AtLast · 10-10-2011, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam

I do not celebrate today's federal holiday.

Me either- can't do it and I think it is impotant to ask kids in our families what they are taught about Columbus in school. Then re-educate them. Also, contact their school district. If there has to be some kind of "hero" designated about the "discovery" (which it already had been by natives) of the Americas, we need to have a red person designated. I know, I know, it's all about the European "discovery." The whole concept of discovery needs to thrown out.

Corkey · 10-10-2011, 06:25 PM

Friday at 10PM "Children of the Planes" on ABC. I hope you all will watch.

foxyshaman · 10-11-2011, 11:22 AM

The worst aspect of the Invasion of North America is the present day discrimination. Where I live the First nations people are generally Cree and Blackfoot. We do have some Inuit in my area of the province, but not many. I would like to see some moving forward of our thoughts and acceptance of our First Nations. I encourage understanding where I can and acceptance wherever I go.

Columbus came, went and died. The horrible legacy of invasion still haunts us. Soul loss of nations of diverse and beautiful people is still present. Depression and economically depressed reservations still exist. Horrible addictions and generational issues still exist. Healing is needed. Medicine Women and Men need to be supported to provide for their people.

It is the present day conditions that I am most horrified by.

Corkey · 10-11-2011, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxyshaman

The worst aspect of the Invasion of North America is the present day discrimination. Where I live the First nations people are generally Cree and Blackfoot. We do have some Inuit in my area of the province, but not many. I would like to see some moving forward of our thoughts and acceptance of our First Nations. I encourage understanding where I can and acceptance wherever I go.

Columbus came, went and died. The horrible legacy of invasion still haunts us. Soul loss of nations of diverse and beautiful people is still present. Depression and economically depressed reservations still exist. Horrible addictions and generational issues still exist. Healing is needed. Medicine Women and Men need to be supported to provide for their people.

It is the present day conditions that I am most horrified by.

There are several charitable organizations that are helping The People, in this present economy their need is even greater.

UofMfan · 10-11-2011, 12:15 PM

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